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child_harold

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Quote from: stonehedge on March 06, 2015, 02:33:45 PM

Quote from: xxxgoodgirls on March 06, 2015, 02:26:36 PM

man if child_harold reads this thread...

Oh he has I'm sure. Thankfully I think that pillock has decided to promote his own coin and not try to break others.

^what he said (minus the pillock)

Just watching this one… wow.

* child_harold runs off to make more popcorn

Quote from: CryptoChronic on March 06, 2015, 12:49:36 PM

LOL hows holding my shadow cash bags? I dumped THOUSANDS at 40k 36k and 29k... you all will never see that again Wink

Edit: BTW the guardian recommends our anonymity http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/mar/06/tips-tricks-anonymous-privacy

You dumped a coin with a working non-interactive zero-knowledge proof implementation (a little like Monero) but on a BTC blockchain and with a gorgeous GUI wallet, for a coin which uses mixing? huh…

Article also recommends using TOR Wink

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Quote from: xxxgoodgirls on March 06, 2015, 02:26:36 PM

man if child_harold reads this thread...

Oh he has I'm sure. Thankfully I think that pillock has decided to promote his own coin and not try to break others.

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man if child_harold reads this thread...

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Quote from: fluffypony on March 06, 2015, 02:08:10 PM

(especially when said dev demonstrates a key lack of understanding with respects......

If I tell you I added two numbers to get a result of 8, tell me how my "lack of cryptographic understanding" lets you determine which two it was ?

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Quote from: toknormal on March 06, 2015, 02:05:05 PM

Evil-Knievel is generally a genuine technical interrogator, and has made the odd useful insight (well, one at least) that's been accepted by devs, it's just that he also has a tendency to draw conclusions bordering on hysterical melodrama from benign philosophical observations.

According to his findings:

References:

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5663483

[2] http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wf5qb/possible_warning_btc_addresses_with_known_public/

[3] http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ukp87/researcher_discovers_major_dos_vulnerability_in/

[4] https://bitcointa.lk/threads/private-key-cracker-apparently-demonstrated.248285/page-2

The most funny part is that he claimed to bet 500 BTC for it. It's pure gold classic. Speechless.

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Quote from: Longenecker on March 06, 2015, 12:46:00 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on March 06, 2015, 12:27:47 PM

Yes, I find this fascinating. Even if something could show a vulnerability, with the Darkcoin dev being here and working on it constantly, any vulnerabilities can turn into strengths, when things get fixed (if they need fixing).

Can I have whatever koolaid you're drinking?

What is more fascinating is that the Darkcoin dev has possibly been building upon a flawed foundation the entire time, unknowingly. This should lead you to question his capability and credibility.

There's a very simple solution to this. Instead of idiotic "dev worship" (especially when said dev demonstrates a key lack of understanding with respects to game theory, the nature of incentives, and basic cryptography) the responsibility should be on Darkcoin to prove, cryptographically, that their transactions are anonymous. Here is an example of a cryptographic proof of anonymity in transactions:

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Evil-Knievel is generally a genuine technical interrogator, and has made the odd useful insight (well, one at least) that's been accepted by devs, it's just that he also has a tendency to draw conclusions bordering on hyperbolic melodrama from benign philosophical observations.

According to his findings:

References:

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5663483

[2] http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wf5qb/possible_warning_btc_addresses_with_known_public/

[3] http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ukp87/researcher_discovers_major_dos_vulnerability_in/

[4] https://bitcointa.lk/threads/private-key-cracker-apparently-demonstrated.248285/page-2

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Quote from: toknormal on March 06, 2015, 01:10:07 PM

Is this the guy that claimed to be able to crack ECDSA keys last year and was trying to flog an "app" for it ?

This guy here ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC43aOdsf4g

(Because if he's right then bitcoin has a lot more to worry about than Darkcoin has)

P.S. Whether you believe him or not, at least you'll be well entertained Wink

Well that was funny.

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Is this the guy that claimed to be able to crack ECDSA keys last year and was trying to flog an "app" for it ?

This guy here ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC43aOdsf4g

(Because if he's right then bitcoin has a lot more to worry about than Darkcoin has)

P.S. Whether you believe him or not, at least you'll be well entertained Wink

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DASH is the future of crypto payments!

I just hope Evan & Evil-Knievel will make a good brainstorm conversation Wink

we need more people like E-K.
As Minotaur26 stated before I`m with every his word and at the end all weaknesses are darkcoin future strenghtens.

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Quote from: Longenecker on March 06, 2015, 12:46:00 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on March 06, 2015, 12:27:47 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on March 06, 2015, 12:07:44 PM

what evilknievel doesn't know is there're not just 3 people in each mixing...not from start to end Wink

However we do need more discussions like this!

Yes, I find this fascinating. Even if something could show a vulnerability, with the Darkcoin dev being here and working on it constantly, any vulnerabilities can turn into strengths, when things get fixed (if they need fixing).

Can I have whatever koolaid you're drinking?

What is more fascinating is that the Darkcoin dev has possibly been building upon a flawed foundation the entire time, unknowingly. This should lead you to question his capability and credibility.

Is like you are trying to ignore the conversation that just happen between Evil-Knievel and Evan. I think you are projecting what you were hoping was the outcome of this excercise. Evil-Knievel acknowledged it was as Evan said, now he believes that even though he was not correct in all his assumptions he may still do something with it. To which Evan invited him to try and report his results.

This is no different than having auditors checking on your system, this guy thought he had something but he didn't, I think he should wait for a few days and test on the next version which will be released soon because it includes many updates and it would be better to test the latest one.

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Quote from: Longenecker on March 06, 2015, 12:46:00 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on March 06, 2015, 12:27:47 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on March 06, 2015, 12:07:44 PM

what evilknievel doesn't know is there're not just 3 people in each mixing...not from start to end Wink

However we do need more discussions like this!

Yes, I find this fascinating. Even if something could show a vulnerability, with the Darkcoin dev being here and working on it constantly, any vulnerabilities can turn into strengths, when things get fixed (if they need fixing).

Can I have whatever koolaid you're drinking?

What is more fascinating is that the Darkcoin dev has possibly been building upon a flawed foundation the entire time, unknowingly. This should lead you to question his capability and credibility.

Bitcoin is still patched,nothing is perfect,and look the price... If dev are here to patch thing fast,where problem ? Its a big 'plus' from all other coin/dev does nothing and take life to correct any problem...

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that is really shocking to hear for me, DRK is not anonymous?
i don't understand well what op want to tell exactly Roll Eyes

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Quote from: CryptoChronic on March 06, 2015, 12:49:36 PM

Quote from: Longenecker on March 06, 2015, 12:46:00 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on March 06, 2015, 12:27:47 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on March 06, 2015, 12:07:44 PM

what evilknievel doesn't know is there're not just 3 people in each mixing...not from start to end Wink

However we do need more discussions like this!

Yes, I find this fascinating. Even if something could show a vulnerability, with the Darkcoin dev being here and working on it constantly, any vulnerabilities can turn into strengths, when things get fixed (if they need fixing).

Can I have whatever koolaid you're drinking?

What is more fascinating is that the Darkcoin dev has possibly been building upon a flawed foundation the entire time, unknowingly. This should lead you to question his capability and credibility.

LOL hows holding my shadow cash bags? I dumped THOUSANDS at 40k 36k and 29k... you all will never see that again Wink

Edit: BTW the guardian recommends our anonymity http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/mar/06/tips-tricks-anonymous-privacy

Yes, I'm sure the Guardian is cryptographically qualified to make such an endorsement.

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Quote from: Longenecker on March 06, 2015, 12:46:00 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on March 06, 2015, 12:27:47 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on March 06, 2015, 12:07:44 PM

what evilknievel doesn't know is there're not just 3 people in each mixing...not from start to end Wink

However we do need more discussions like this!

Yes, I find this fascinating. Even if something could show a vulnerability, with the Darkcoin dev being here and working on it constantly, any vulnerabilities can turn into strengths, when things get fixed (if they need fixing).

Can I have whatever koolaid you're drinking?

What is more fascinating is that the Darkcoin dev has possibly been building upon a flawed foundation the entire time, unknowingly. This should lead you to question his capability and credibility.

LOL hows holding my shadow cash bags? I dumped THOUSANDS at 40k 36k and 29k... you all will never see that again Wink

Edit: BTW the guardian recommends our anonymity http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/mar/06/tips-tricks-anonymous-privacy

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on March 06, 2015, 12:27:47 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on March 06, 2015, 12:07:44 PM

what evilknievel doesn't know is there're not just 3 people in each mixing...not from start to end Wink

However we do need more discussions like this!

Yes, I find this fascinating. Even if something could show a vulnerability, with the Darkcoin dev being here and working on it constantly, any vulnerabilities can turn into strengths, when things get fixed (if they need fixing).

Can I have whatever koolaid you're drinking?

What is more fascinating is that the Darkcoin dev has possibly been building upon a flawed foundation the entire time, unknowingly. This should lead you to question his capability and credibility.

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Loving the conversations!

"Exposures" like this makes Darkcoin even stronger, whatever the outcome will be. Whether this is valid or not, thanks Evil-Knievel for pointing this out!

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on March 06, 2015, 12:27:47 PM

Yes, I find this fascinating. Even if something could show a vulnerability, with the Darkcoin dev being here and working on it constantly, any vulnerabilities can turn into strengths, when things get fixed (if they need fixing).

+1, amen to that! Cheesy

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OP when he finally gives up on his de-anonymizer..

Meanwhile masternode blinding is already on testnet and looking amazing.

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In nearest future the only chance to buy big volume of DRK will be finding new temporary bugs. Grin

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Quote from: CryptoChronic on March 06, 2015, 12:07:44 PM

what evilknievel doesn't know is there're not just 3 people in each mixing...not from start to end Wink

However we do need more discussions like this!

Yes, I find this fascinating. Even if something could show a vulnerability, with the Darkcoin dev being here and working on it constantly, any vulnerabilities can turn into strengths, when things get fixed (if they need fixing).

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