Thoughts on Video game gambling addiction? - page 7.

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Quote from: Kevin77 on March 14, 2019, 06:22:49 AM

I am not 100% against it, I mean there are many things to consider as gambling in our lives and loot boxes is just one of them, why care about these things when you do not care about the others.

Think about your mobile phones, when you play with a game and your "life" runs out and you have to wait 45 minutes each per "life" in that game and you buy bunch of it because you want to keep playing, is that legal ? Should it be legal ? Lets leave that aside, if you play a game with "game money" but you run out of that "game money" and you buy that game money from the game with money, isn't that a bit of gambling.

Loot boxes are really bad if you make it the way EA does but I have played NBA 2K almost all my life and even tough its getting worse and worse every year its till one of the best ways to open up cards to see if I can pull good players or not. Its really entertaining to build a team that way.

I am not also opposed to this kind of activity.
But a person should know his limits and have the will to control himself not to shatter his life because of this.
Younger generations sometimes is difficult to deal with this kind of situation as they have so many means now of playing without the knowledge of their parents.

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Quote from: beerlover on March 15, 2019, 12:56:27 PM

Advising beginners to start gambling with video games means a part of you knows video game can truly lead to gambling addiction.
Video game is really very interesting and in no time, players in most cases tend to spend so much time on the game just because of the pleasure and soon they are led to committing money into playing and this is truly what leads to addition, Little wonder why the government of Belgium blacklisted it as an illegal game and I think that is a very good move.

Exposing younger ones to something like this is not acceptable.

Video gaming alone is very addictive. How much more if you integrate gambling in this area? I suggest for the youngsters, they should be very smart on this. It can ruin their life when they are not properly handled. I've seen a recent local article that a particular mother is going to the computer shop just to feed her kid because he's addicted in video games and he has no time to eat at home. Think of adding gambling in this scenario. That is really a nightmare for a parent!

And this one is really a messed up story I don't want to end up with as a parent.

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Actually in very games have possible to create an gambling bets vedio games play by the child or the teenage like counter strikes for example they fight through LAN connection from pc to pc the both player they make bet who's gonna win.

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Quote from: purple.thoughts on March 14, 2019, 08:17:24 AM

This is definitely one of the good advise I heard specially for those who are still a beginner or who just started from gambling. Video games are definitely one of the best way to start a small amount of your money to gamble with.

Advising beginners to start gambling with video games means a part of you knows video game can truly lead to gambling addiction.
Video game is really very interesting and in no time, players in most cases tend to spend so much time on the game just because of the pleasure and soon they are led to committing money into playing and this is truly what leads to addition, Little wonder why the government of Belgium blacklisted it as an illegal game and I think that is a very good move.

Exposing younger ones to something like this is not acceptable.

Video gaming alone is very addictive. How much more if you integrate gambling in this area? I suggest for the youngsters, they should be very smart on this. It can ruin their life when they are not properly handled. I've seen a recent local article that a particular mother is going to the computer shop just to feed her kid because he's addicted in video games and he has no time to eat at home. Think of adding gambling in this scenario. That is really a nightmare for a parent!

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Quote from: purple.thoughts on March 14, 2019, 08:17:24 AM

This is definitely one of the good advise I heard specially for those who are still a beginner or who just started from gambling. Video games are definitely one of the best way to start a small amount of your money to gamble with.

Advising beginners to start gambling with video games means a part of you knows video game can truly lead to gambling addiction.
Video game is really very interesting and in no time, players in most cases tend to spend so much time on the game just because of the pleasure and soon they are led to committing money into playing and this is truly what leads to addition, Little wonder why the government of Belgium blacklisted it as an illegal game and I think that is a very good move.

Exposing younger ones to something like this is not acceptable.

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This is definitely one of the good advise I heard specially for those who are still a beginner or who just started from gambling. Video games are definitely one of the best way to start a small amount of your money to gamble with.

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Quote from: Ayiranorea on March 14, 2019, 03:49:03 AM

Video games will lead to the distraction of their mind from their needs focusing completely on different games. Another thing it is more time consuming, even if we schedule and play it is impossible to stop playing within the scheduled time limit. Whenever I see video gamers addiction never comes to my mind. The early adopters of Bitcoin comes to my mind as majority of them were gamers.

I don't know how can you prove that the early adopters of Bitcoin are gamers but I don't approve of it. Bitcoin is seen as a good investment in the past as there are a lot of people investing in it especially when it pumped up. If we will be talking about the early adopters, that is obviously experienced investors. There are a lot of them that predicted this will happen and they know more about the market.

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I am not 100% against it, I mean there are many things to consider as gambling in our lives and loot boxes is just one of them, why care about these things when you do not care about the others.

Think about your mobile phones, when you play with a game and your "life" runs out and you have to wait 45 minutes each per "life" in that game and you buy bunch of it because you want to keep playing, is that legal ? Should it be legal ? Lets leave that aside, if you play a game with "game money" but you run out of that "game money" and you buy that game money from the game with money, isn't that a bit of gambling.

Loot boxes are really bad if you make it the way EA does but I have played NBA 2K almost all my life and even tough its getting worse and worse every year its till one of the best ways to open up cards to see if I can pull good players or not. Its really entertaining to build a team that way.

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Quote from: prtty2gal2 on March 14, 2019, 12:30:13 AM

Quote from: eternalgloom on March 13, 2019, 05:54:56 AM

In my country they've just banned the use of loot boxes in video games (Belgium).
I've gotta say that I'm pretty glad that they did this, too many children are slowly becoming addicted to gambling because of this.

Now, I have no idea whether they can enforce this for all games, I think there's still a fair number of mobile games that have these gambling mechanics in place.
Some big studios have made adjustments though, but it also means that some games will not be available here anymore.

Your minister of justice is only concerned about children and how they have been too confronted with loot boxes, he feels it is dangerous for the mental health of the kids and however has attached a fine to be paid by those companies who fail to comply.

I am also happy about this because this game that leads to gambling addition is not in any way good for children and exposing them to such games at early age will be a terrible mistake to any nation. It is good that your country has been able to curb this and I hope other countries can learn from this.

Well and he's right about that. I can imagine that exposing children to 'gambling' from an early age could permanently alter their brain chemistry.
I mean it's really not good for a developing brain to experience these kinds of dopamine rushes that you tend to get from gambling.

That and I think some parents might have had their credit cards used by their children to pay for in-game items.

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Quote from: Symphonized on March 13, 2019, 08:24:07 PM

In some way you are right but not entirely.

Asume that Video game is a hobby without any necessity for using your real life money. Unless you want to buy something to become a better equipped Player.
In gambling you need a MUST USE fiat or currency (which is basically virtual money as we know it) where you are obligated to waste it to reach profit in return.

It is right, because in some video game, we gambling and not get any real profit. Only in game items, but actually if they have in game transaction, gambling in video game worth to try too. But for me, gambling in real life and gambling to buy boxes or any in game items, both make people satisfied if they like it.

Or you can just make cash out of it.

These days there are a lot of people who want to buy loot boxes online though the problem is that some games only require their players to buy in the game's store and now let other gamers trade with other gamers. For example, in Steam, if you get a loot box you can sell them on the market so you can earn money out of your games.

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I don't know, this is just part of gambling industry so I don't think that we can do something about it.

Maybe we can compare them to even games like multiplayer online battle arena that is taking the younger generations by storm, they are all addicted and big money is involved underground and it will just be a matter of time before those young kids will venture to casinos to gamble. That's why I'm very strict with my son playing ML now. Grin

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Video games will lead to the distraction of their mind from their needs focusing completely on different games. Another thing it is more time consuming, even if we schedule and play it is impossible to stop playing within the scheduled time limit. Whenever I see video gamers addiction never comes to my mind. The early adopters of Bitcoin comes to my mind as majority of them were gamers.

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Quote from: izanagi narukami on March 13, 2019, 08:46:06 AM

IMO, most video game only provide item cash and usually it won't lead into gambling addiction.
Instead it will lead into gaming addiction where gamers try to spend money more than they can earn or even spending their parent's money

Of course both of them are dangerous thing if it's not being control

If most of the video games are like that then everyone will become addicted to that game because we're going to be able to make money out of it but that's not the thing here. That kind of addiction can also lead to gambling, why? most of these games can now connect to gambling.

PvP (Player vs Player) is very essential to most of the games. And what other's are saying there are gamers who are very much addicted to these games not because of gambling but because they want to make their characters stronger. For them to reach certain levels and strength, they are spending money for it.

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For me, it also has a bad influence to most students who plays online gambling games, there are games online that they are putting some bets and that thing makes them addicted in to that game because they are also practicing playing online games with frienda and classmates and at the same time their school is also affected on that aspect so for me, it is not really good for students.

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Quote from: Symphonized on March 13, 2019, 08:24:07 PM

In some way you are right but not entirely.

Asume that Video game is a hobby without any necessity for using your real life money. Unless you want to buy something to become a better equipped Player.
In gambling you need a MUST USE fiat or currency (which is basically virtual money as we know it) where you are obligated to waste it to reach profit in return.

Maybe what OP is pointing that they are both gambling either computer games or casino games it doesn’t mean about money involvement but the idea of having bets or pots to gain or lose because in time people might divert from computer gaming to online casino playing things that is why OP was alarmed and i guess we should be alarm also for what this can bring in future if we don’t prevent from happening

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Quote from: eternalgloom on March 13, 2019, 05:54:56 AM

In my country they've just banned the use of loot boxes in video games (Belgium).
I've gotta say that I'm pretty glad that they did this, too many children are slowly becoming addicted to gambling because of this.

Now, I have no idea whether they can enforce this for all games, I think there's still a fair number of mobile games that have these gambling mechanics in place.
Some big studios have made adjustments though, but it also means that some games will not be available here anymore.

Your minister of justice is only concerned about children and how they have been too confronted with loot boxes, he feels it is dangerous for the mental health of the kids and however has attached a fine to be paid by those companies who fail to comply.

I am also happy about this because this game that leads to gambling addition is not in any way good for children and exposing them to such games at early age will be a terrible mistake to any nation. It is good that your country has been able to curb this and I hope other countries can learn from this.

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Quote from: shield132 on March 12, 2019, 12:34:52 PM

OP you are 100% right, great example of video game gambling could be warface too, you need to deposit money and buy some things if you want to own better equipment than others and reach higher levels quickly. Another example can be online web based game imperia online too, you need diamonds to develop your empire quickly and effectively.
But the reason why this isn't banned and there is zero talk on addiction is that usually people who play such games aren't so addicted to deposit a lot of money here. In casino usually you deposit more in order to get back previous loss but here situation is different.

A lot of video games ask for some money like this, but I think it is still your choice whether to upgrade your character or not, but I think this is not a real gambling because in most of the video games you will receive nothing but only an enjoyment. Gambling is something that you do because of money, and video games is different.

I agree with you when you say that gambling is something people do for money but there are some people who actually do it for fun and enjoyment but I guess we are not talking about addiction anymore here since they are playing rarely when they feel bored and don't have anything else to do

There can be a situation where gambling is played on video games too. I have seen people betting on PUBG matches between the individuals. Gambling can be spread towards video games also and it will bring more popularity in gambling and video games both.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on March 07, 2019, 12:04:49 PM

Well id say not all gamers will upgrade and move on to gambling because imo video games are more fun than gambling and its less riskier because it does not involve money . although some games have in game items thay can be bought by cash and its not surprising at all that gamers are a fan of buying those virtual items because that enhance thier gaming experience.

The guy above me is also correct . nowadays there are now video game based gambling that accept cryptos . they are also fun and thrilling .

Yeah in some video games, it gives a little picture of gambling. but you're right, not all video game players will easily switch to gambling, gambling requires money while video games don't need any capital,but I also don't rule out gambling sites that have interfaces like an interesting video game to play, there will be many fans from video game players there

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Quote from: Symphonized on March 13, 2019, 08:24:07 PM

In some way you are right but not entirely.

Asume that Video game is a hobby without any necessity for using your real life money. Unless you want to buy something to become a better equipped Player.
In gambling you need a MUST USE fiat or currency (which is basically virtual money as we know it) where you are obligated to waste it to reach profit in return.

It is right, because in some video game, we gambling and not get any real profit. Only in game items, but actually if they have in game transaction, gambling in video game worth to try too. But for me, gambling in real life and gambling to buy boxes or any in game items, both make people satisfied if they like it.

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In some way you are right but not entirely.

Asume that Video game is a hobby without any necessity for using your real life money. Unless you want to buy something to become a better equipped Player.
In gambling you need a MUST USE fiat or currency (which is basically virtual money as we know it) where you are obligated to waste it to reach profit in return.

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IMO, most video game only provide item cash and usually it won't lead into gambling addiction.
Instead it will lead into gaming addiction where gamers try to spend money more than they can earn or even spending their parent's money

Of course both of them are dangerous thing if it's not being control

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