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Quote from: Indamuck on March 07, 2019, 11:25:09 AM

Video games are loaded with aspects of gambling and people of all groups and ages play these games in modern times. Many games have things like loot boxes that you pay for to random prizes, Runescape has the duel arena where you can gamble gold against one another, and there are many more examples.

People may start off with video games and then eventually move on to higher sums gambling in real casinos. What are your thoughts on this matter and should anything be done?

I have been playing video games and online games for more than 10 years now.and you are right most of them implicates gambling theres looting for something that you can sell for Fiats or cash.i played Ran Online wayback in which the pot items in event can be trade for cash so thats a gambling aready.so better prevent our family to become addicted

You can't just prevent them especially if people around them were playing online games too. It just depends on their field of interest if they really like to play for a long term or play it for fun, just like gambling. Some people are playing online games for one purpose only, to sell some items or trade it with real cash. These people are addict already in any online games while some of them hire some pilot for their account to level up that fast.

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The value of the items you get from loot boxes diminishes over time so eventually people would stop buying them until a new version gets released. I myself buy some loot boxes if it's only available for a limited time but for me the experience of opening loot boxes isn't the same as gambling on a casino because on steam I know there's a cooldown on items. Having a cooldown on csgo items stopped cs:go gambling sites from operating and a few of them moved to bitcoin payments. The most gambled item nowadays is dota items and soon it could also have a cooldown.

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Personally I haven't known anyone to this date transitioned from video game/e-sports betting to gambling in real casinos. Not unless you are playing casino related video games, games in general are not some sort of “gateway drug” that will let you be hooked to other sorts of betting outside gaming more often than not they will stay in ghe industry. And by that I mean they will be more involved in betting or find other modes of earning within the industry such us streaming their games or have their own Youtube channel which a lot of teenagers and young adults are now doing.

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Quote from: prtty2gal2 on March 10, 2019, 02:15:11 PM

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Well id say not all gamers will upgrade and move on to gambling because imo video games are more fun than gambling and its less riskier because it does not involve money . although some games have in game items thay can be bought by cash and its not surprising at all that gamers are a fan of buying those virtual items because that enhance thier gaming experience.

The guy above me is also correct . nowadays there are now video game based gambling that accept cryptos . they are also fun and thrilling .

Yeah not all actually but there is so much possibility of gamers upgrading to gambling when playing a game. Imagine playing a winning a game so much without reward only to know you can actually win so much money from same game by just committing a little cash, it’s tempting to make upgrading and this is mainly a reason why most gamers switch from gaming to gambling. But personally, I never recommend this. When you are good at something and finding some satisfactions, it would be always too good to continue as satisfaction is not available for money.

Each gamers is entirely different we might say that it shouldnt involve a form of gambling but there are some who do really add up and seek out for more thrill when playing
by just adding some cash towards into its opponents and making up some bets.I cant deny that involving money while playing games do really gives some excitement.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on March 07, 2019, 12:04:49 PM

Well id say not all gamers will upgrade and move on to gambling because imo video games are more fun than gambling and its less riskier because it does not involve money . although some games have in game items thay can be bought by cash and its not surprising at all that gamers are a fan of buying those virtual items because that enhance thier gaming experience.

The guy above me is also correct . nowadays there are now video game based gambling that accept cryptos . they are also fun and thrilling .

Yeah not all actually but there is so much possibility of gamers upgrading to gambling when playing a game. Imagine playing a winning a game so much without reward only to know you can actually win so much money from same game by just committing a little cash, it’s tempting to make upgrading and this is mainly a reason why most gamers switch from gaming to gambling. But personally, I never recommend this. When you are good at something and finding some satisfactions, it would be always too good to continue as satisfaction is not available for money.

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Quote from: leowonderful on March 08, 2019, 08:49:25 AM

I actually personally started gambling from ingame lootboxes in the game CS:GO where I was losing significant sums of money through the game’s case system (even after unboxing two knives), but it is at least somewhat concerning to me that younger children play these games and they might get money onto their steam accounts and start opening cases expecting to get expensive skins from them. Still not a bit problem in my eyes yet considering you really don’t hear many cases of addiction to crates and unboxings quite often.

Well, it is still better to go into gambling with some ideas than to go into in as a dummy, there is a stage in children’s life where they have full control of their own life even if we still see them as children, which no one knows what they can be exposed to when one is not there and gambling is not exceptional.

But, it is better they have rough idea about it through these games than to be a novice in it in case they choose the part which I believe most parent will try their own best not to let them get exposed to, but what can you do, they are just another life born into this world of technology.

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Quote from: Indamuck on March 07, 2019, 11:25:09 AM

Video games are loaded with aspects of gambling and people of all groups and ages play these games in modern times. Many games have things like loot boxes that you pay for to random prizes, Runescape has the duel arena where you can gamble gold against one another, and there are many more examples.

People may start off with video games and then eventually move on to higher sums gambling in real casinos. What are your thoughts on this matter and should anything be done?

The danger of loot boxes stem from gambling combined with addicting gameplay from the game itself. Basically, there are two (2) components that are need to be addressed: first, addiction from the game PLUS addiction from gambling in loot boxes. With online games being famous, companies use this as a medium to introduce ways to entice gambling and the form is through loot boxes.

In-line with this, this may be a difficult problem to address but self-discipline and physical and mental awareness may be the first step in order fix this kind of addiction. Second, intervention from relatives may be considered especially when they get affected from your decisions. Lastly, shifting from playing video games to doing recreational activities can provide as an alternative.

Quote from: Ucy on March 08, 2019, 04:26:39 PM

I never knew video game exists in gambling . Almost anything you can think of exists thesedays anyway.

Isnt it better than just video game? Well, I have been wondering if people who sit all day playing video games online shouldnt be makingg money from them too

The gambling that exists on video games come from the form of loot boxes, wherein there is a specific chance of getting an item that is worth a ton of $$$$. Of course in order to open those so called "loot boxes", one has to pay real money and gamble on the chances of getting so. As you can see, this is the birth of a new age of gambling where it has the potential of creating gambling addicts at that early stage.

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Quote from: Indamuck on March 07, 2019, 11:25:09 AM

Video games are loaded with aspects of gambling and people of all groups and ages play these games in modern times. Many games have things like loot boxes that you pay for to random prizes, Runescape has the duel arena where you can gamble gold against one another, and there are many more examples.

People may start off with video games and then eventually move on to higher sums gambling in real casinos. What are your thoughts on this matter and should anything be done?

Nothing much can be done to put these in check as the video game in question is a project that is not imposed on anyone, in fact most of us playing video games are gradually gambling without knowing it but in real life I don’t gamble much like getting to the stage of addiction.

In fact I have been playing games for the past 10 years and all these features you mention are not new to video games but I didn’t get exposed to gambling till last year when I was looking for other means of making more money, so even if the children are playing games, provided they don’t even have an idea of what gambling is or exposed to the real one, I think video games are still safe for them to play.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on March 08, 2019, 08:48:11 PM

Even though I don't like the idea of gambling in generic video games, I understand that casino games are boring. Games like blackjack, poker, dice, etc., are outdated in my opinion.

Actually, if online casinos could create such quality video games, we don't need to gamble on generic video games (like DOTA2). What a pity.

It would be cool if more games had a battle option that you could wager money. That way it revolves around skill rather than gambling. I guess at that point its not technically gambling since games of skill are generally not regarded as such.

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Even though I don't like the idea of gambling in generic video games, I understand that casino games are boring. Games like blackjack, poker, dice, etc., are outdated in my opinion.

Actually, if online casinos could create such quality video games, we don't need to gamble on generic video games (like DOTA2). What a pity.

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Quote from: Indamuck on March 07, 2019, 11:25:09 AM

People may start off with video games and then eventually move on to higher sums gambling in real casinos. What are your thoughts on this matter and should anything be done?

It is happening.

I know the owner of an internet cafe for a long time now and he really loves games especially now the esports where he roots for teams. In our early years we are playing Dota, having some local games there with bets or not it is fun. Then go Crossfire and other fps games and then Dota2 came when he started to get addicted to. He started his own cafe, use the money earned to improve it and then that is when loot boxes begin to be a thing on CSGO where he usually spends a lot of money to buy boxes and keys. After that, he supports certain CSGO team betting on them every game. At first it was normal but while the time flies, it is becoming an addiction.

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Quote from: Indamuck on March 07, 2019, 11:25:09 AM

People may start off with video games and then eventually move on to higher sums gambling in real casinos. What are your thoughts on this matter and should anything be done?

I'm not surprised at all because I already expect that it will happens. Imagine, if people out here can do "under the table" bettings for every game match of DOTA and CF then what more if the game itself made an own platform for betting. Like one of the most popular game here in our country, Mobile Legends, also allows you to bet diamonds (which you can buy with the use of real money) on your favorite team during tournaments.

I guess this is just the beginning for E-games. I hope many advancements are yet to come

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Quote from: Ucy on March 08, 2019, 04:26:39 PM

Isnt it better than just video game? Well, I have been wondering if people who sit all day playing video games online shouldnt be makingg money from them too

Its been possible for a while now to make some small amount just playing. In pubg if you are a top rank player you will get more points which enables you to get more drops and at least some of the time thats paid out something.
Quite often on Steam you can trade items for a profit if you can spot a trend especially if what is available but will be popular tomorrow when the item is less available, thereby giving you a price increase to benefit from.

Crypto has a good tie to digital items like this I'm pretty sure

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When I was seeing the development of video games it will be a huge that the unexpected changes happening in very short period of time and also the gambling will equally manager itself to develop so if it combines in a field then it will be a huge successful way to make money if you had huge gaming knowledge and gaming experience definitely it will give a huge profit.

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I never knew video game exists in gambling . Almost anything you can think of exists thesedays anyway.

Isnt it better than just video game? Well, I have been wondering if people who sit all day playing video games online shouldnt be makingg money from them too

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Video games became big industry. Cyber sport is developing in many countries of the world, so I'm not surprised that video games gambling popularity is raising.

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Quote from: Indamuck on March 07, 2019, 11:25:09 AM

Video games are loaded with aspects of gambling and people of all groups and ages play these games in modern times. Many games have things like loot boxes that you pay for to random prizes, Runescape has the duel arena where you can gamble gold against one another, and there are many more examples.

People may start off with video games and then eventually move on to higher sums gambling in real casinos. What are your thoughts on this matter and should anything be done?

Well playing an interesting game can give gamer a hint or an idea to how gambling would be like, this is especially when the game itself is very interesting, IMO games can be very fun, just that it does not involve money but the moment one is aware that it’s possible to play with a little cash and the win more.

I think the player would be left with no choice than to upgrade to gambling. This is how gamers upgrade from playing games to gambling

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I think once a day is fine but more then this it becomes gambling and of course companies want big customers and thats fine if its not built into a game targeted at kids. Netherlands has banned loot box opening over this idea that they are dodging the gamble idea and calling it a game, I have to agree thats its a bit deceptive as most of their profit comes from this avenue not the game. If people go out and look for gambling then fair enough but to tag it onto a game is where its a grey area and for kids especially thats not good.

Same thing is happening with game apps on mobile phones, fake games where if you pay you win and all sorts.

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I actually personally started gambling from ingame lootboxes in the game CS:GO where I was losing significant sums of money through the game’s case system (even after unboxing two knives), but it is at least somewhat concerning to me that younger children play these games and they might get money onto their steam accounts and start opening cases expecting to get expensive skins from them. Still not a big problem in my eyes yet considering you really don’t hear many cases of addiction to crates and unboxings quite often.

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Game developers have been doing everything possible to extract as much money as possible from video games. I miss the old days when you bought a game and that was it. Now devs are locking the content that is created before the game is even released and selling it later as DLC. I'm fine with paying for actual new updates that are created later but most of the time this isn't the case.

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