Topic: Thread locked I owe it to aew. JollyGood and his Feedback - page 4. (Read 1342 times)

I think JollyGood has done a good job on 1xBit, but one thing that struck me about him is that he has 2452 members excluded from his trust list.

I looked at his trust list because some people say that he gives negative feedback too easily, although it seems that overall he has done a positive job and is a good scam buster.

In the end I decided to stay neutral, neither add him to my trust list nor exclude him.

Has anyone noticed I had a spelling mistake for the topic title 🤣?
Nothing to surprise. He thinks he earned a name to ignore PM from other members who have valid questions to ask and even a thread created for them to clarify what they are doing. He is absolutely fine to harass others though.

If wearing a signature paying $70 a week can change their behavior then it's completely wrong. This could only mean that the user can not do right thing. They will do everything not in good intention but to pocket revenue.

Leaving a red feedback to starmyc could be a well attempt to justify not to pay him for the work, leaving unnecessary positive feedback to others also indicates that making a good reputation is the intention.

I realize now that JollyGood wears the signature of Duelbits and that you defend that in this case he has a behavior opposite to the usual, with respect to the company that pays him.

I guess JollyGood will come to the thread to defend himself, I'm surprised he hasn't come already.


Things like this are what I was referring to earlier:

I do agree too. Terms are like we reserve the right to confiscate any winning, we reserve the right to cancel any bet and many more one sided terms are to protect their business. I am not sure legally a company really can say it. But we all understand, casino makes money out of the loss from their clients. They are happy when customers lose money and worried when they win. They ensure everything is in right place to make as much as they can.

I liked one explanation from one of the casino who advertise on the forum and I understand it. They usually can not check every customer one by one because it's almost impossible to continue with the volume of clients. They set some flags especially when a client request a withdrawal. The algorithm of the flag alerts them when something is not right. That's when they act.

My best guess was they were not finding any fault from the user. They are lucky that the user lost his patience and admitted he used bug on their site.

I do not agree with some terms casinos have. I feel like some things are a blanket term that gives a casino outs to take a large win away from a player.

Multiple accounts is bullshit. If someone has created multiple accounts cheating a bonus or promotion, then ban said user and their alts. Don't allow a user to keep depositing or something like that, then they get a win and get fucked out of it. If they have multi accounts and you allowed them to deposit, then on that deposit they won without cheating, pay that man his money period.

When sites are getting their games from a 3rd party like the slots on most casinos, sites have to wait for a response from the provider if there is an issue. 3 weeks plus seems a bit nutty to me. I feel like the 2 parties should be able to get on a video chat and solve a problem in a much faster time frame(like a couple fucking days) vs emailing back and forth and someone answering whenever they please.

Casinos are always protected by their terms and conditions. It's a problem for a casino which hasn't made it's name yet but when a casino earn a reputation we respect their decision because of their long term loyalty to their clients. From that perspective I have no problem with the decision Duelbits made (In fact they didn't close the case, JollyGood closed it on behalf of them).
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5405780

But in a scam accusation against any service or person without knowing both side of the story I can not advocate for a side. On the thread until the OP admitted the bug it was impossible to know OPs accusations were wrong. Even Duelbits were not sure otherwise it would not take them a month to investigate. But we saw JollyGood was always advocating for Duelbits as he was protecting them. Judging from his nature it was a completely different behavior by him. If this was against any other casino then he would harass the casino.

Hhampuz seemed pissed because they were taking unnecessary time
It worried yahoo62278
examplens was worried too

Then we hear a response from Duelbits. Case in ongoing investigation and it was the only response from them. But as you will see our friend JollyGood was always trying to calm the OP as if he knew nothing could go wrong with Duelbits.

All it for $70 a week? It seems JollyGood will advocate for anyone if they pay which is obviously very dangerous (in the past, I was in a signature campaign. I used to get request from campaign manager and other participants to advocate for them. I could not do it a single time in the specified threads and eventually I was removed form it. By the way, I am not regretting for it but using an example).

The completely different approaching from JollyGood  leads me to suspect his motive of scam busting all these days. Although now a days he lures from 1xbit. All are aware, they are scam so there are no additional work is necessary to hammer them all the time. Could we consider JollyGoods intention is to make a good name, earn trust and then finally dump a huge scam? We have many examples including Master-P. It always make me worry when I see a user is too focused to make a name. Have people checked the positive feedback sent by JollyGood to the users who already have their names established? I am not saying the feedback are wrong but these were not necessary too. The only possible outcome is to receive a positive back.

I am still waiting to know about the feedback he left for starmyc and nemgun. starmyc received another feedback from AdolfinWolf which clears that starmvc possibly is not that JollyGood explained.

AdolfinWolf

2018-03-30

Reference

This user has set up a script for me. Very polite and extremely professional. Went out of his bounds to explain to me what he did, and always responded extremely quickly in clear terms and good english. (Something that can be hard to find these days.). User really knows what he is talking about. Can highly recommend dealing with him.. https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/bff13fb4819fbd5e4ce04642e0db1aec12f1d8c31b4659f341c2ce7cb3637132

That's what I thought. They can put in their TOS that if you find a bug they can take away a kidney of yours if they want, another thing is if it is legal.

We can think about whether we consider it more ethical for someone who finds the bug to tell the casino instead of taking advantage of the bug, but if we start listing morally questionable actions by casinos both traditionally and nowadays we would make a long list.

Oh I’m sure the casino has something in their TOS that says they can take all his money whenever they want..

Lol. Another drama on the reputation section.

I quite like this section but sometimes it seems the gossip section.

For the time being, I am going to remain neutral with respect to Jollygood.

As for the Duelbits case, I comment here what I think, since the thread is locked. If a casino has a bug, it's the casino's fault, and if someone discovers it and makes money from the bug, he has every right to do so. In a lawsuit the casino would have everything to lose, and so it happened with some poker players, mathematicians by profession, who found imperfections in the roulette wheels of physical casinos around the world and took advantage of it.

First