Time to boycott coinmarketcap.com - page 2.

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Quote from: TheTribesman on December 28, 2013, 07:08:03 AM

There's a market out there for someone to build a coinmarketcap clone that only lists decentralized/mined cryptos. They'll get an automatic audience.

I'd do it, but I don't have those skills.
Grin

Already done , because of the overhelming demand of over 65% (20% neutral guys,15% premine fanboys)
http://www.cryptmarketcap.com/

Quote from: stompix on December 28, 2013, 07:00:38 AM

Quote from: X68N on December 28, 2013, 06:03:54 AM

Quote from: stompix on December 28, 2013, 05:27:42 AM

.... That is a list of digital currencies. Not a list of currencies that are mined.
There is no definition nor for digital nor for cryptos that they have to be mined and not issued.
People try to force the principles of Bitcoin on all other coins , which is not right.

Yes if you see it like that it is "just" a list.
I see it not like that the site is very popular and has potential to influence people minds about the popularity of a currency.
I see the potential to influence new people to believe
the coins work like bitcoin. In fact they are the opposite. My position is this must be clear, otherwise it is not right.
There is no enfocing of principles. It is the other way around.
XRP,NXT,MST are abusing the Bitcoin trend, if they dont make clear to everyone, they work completely different.
By listing them together it seems for non nerds and newbies like they play in the same class.
The fact they are "minted" is a serious difference.

When it is just a list, then what speaks against it to also list Lindendollars and Amazoncoins?

So , the people behind ripple should post on coinmarketcap how ripple works?
LMAO.

If you want to know how ripple works you got to their website and learn from there.
Also , it has been debated in this forums so many times what ripple is and how it is different from Bitcoin I really don't get it how you (based on your reg date) still can say that.

And to your last argument , which is pretty pathetic , I think cmc should add also livejasmin credits.

It seems you are one of those humans which like to be enslaved.
Someone who is a submissive believer of the authorities.(because of diffuse fear)
So that is no wonder that people fall into XRP,NXT,MST because of their educated pavlovian conditioning in their childhood.
(Thinking centralistic systems are without alternative)

Your last sentence confirmed my concern. Grin

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We should start boycotting mtgox and bitstamp , because they trade only bitcoin.
Also we should boycott cryptsy because it has doge and not hamstercoin
And this forum because there are threads about nxt and ripple here.

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Making a distinction between (either currently or forever) inflating money base coins and stable/deflating ones might be useful. Coins could even change "sides" over time, e.g. in 2140 Bitcoin would move from "inflating float" to "stable/deflating float".

Boycotting a site because of this is not very constructive in my opinion...

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Quote from: stompix on December 28, 2013, 07:14:56 AM

Quote from: TheTribesman on December 28, 2013, 07:08:03 AM

There's a market out there for someone to build a coinmarketcap clone that only lists decentralized/mined cryptos. They'll get an automatic audience.

I'd do it, but I don't have those skills.
Grin

And then people will argue that it should only list some coins because the others are clones. And then only scrypt ones , and then only coins with an animal logo.
The ranting will never stop.

LOL. I hear ya! Cheesy

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Quote from: TheTribesman on December 28, 2013, 07:08:03 AM

There's a market out there for someone to build a coinmarketcap clone that only lists decentralized/mined cryptos. They'll get an automatic audience.

I'd do it, but I don't have those skills.
Grin

And then people will argue that it should only list some coins because the others are clones. And then only scrypt ones , and then only coins with an animal logo.
The ranting will never stop.

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There's a market out there for someone to build a coinmarketcap clone that only lists decentralized/mined cryptos. They'll get an automatic audience.

I'd do it, but I don't have those skills.
Grin

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Quote from: X68N on December 28, 2013, 06:03:54 AM

Quote from: stompix on December 28, 2013, 05:27:42 AM

.... That is a list of digital currencies. Not a list of currencies that are mined.
There is no definition nor for digital nor for cryptos that they have to be mined and not issued.
People try to force the principles of Bitcoin on all other coins , which is not right.

Yes if you see it like that it is "just" a list.
I see it not like that the site is very popular and has potential to influence people minds about the popularity of a currency.
I see the potential to influence new people to believe
the coins work like bitcoin. In fact they are the opposite. My position is this must be clear, otherwise it is not right.
There is no enfocing of principles. It is the other way around.
XRP,NXT,MST are abusing the Bitcoin trend, if they dont make clear to everyone, they work completely different.
By listing them together it seems for non nerds and newbies like they play in the same class.
The fact they are "minted" is a serious difference.

When it is just a list, then what speaks against it to also list Lindendollars and Amazoncoins?

So , the people behind ripple should post on coinmarketcap how ripple works?
LMAO.

If you want to know how ripple works you got to their website and learn from there.
Also , it has been debated in this forums so many times what ripple is and how it is different from Bitcoin I really don't get it how you (based on your reg date) still can say that.

And to your last argument , which is pretty pathetic , I think cmc should add also livejasmin credits.

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Quote from: stompix on December 28, 2013, 05:27:42 AM

.... That is a list of digital currencies. Not a list of currencies that are mined.
There is no definition nor for digital nor for cryptos that they have to be mined and not issued.
People try to force the principles of Bitcoin on all other coins , which is not right.

Yes if you see it like that it is "just" a list.
I see it not like that the site is very popular and has potential to influence people minds about the popularity of a currency.
I see the potential to influence new people to believe
the coins work like bitcoin. In fact they are the opposite. My position is this must be clear, otherwise it is not right.
There is no enfocing of principles. It is the other way around.
XRP,NXT,MST are abusing the Bitcoin trend, if they dont make clear to everyone, they work completely different.
By listing them together it seems for non nerds and newbies like they play in the same class.
The fact they are "minted" is a serious difference.

When it is just a list, then what speaks against it to also list Lindendollars and Amazoncoins?

Quote from: stompix on December 28, 2013, 05:27:42 AM

Also , your comparison is false by claiming that both MasterCoin and Ripple are centralized.
How are both of them centralized , using the same argument?

If a part of this argument if false then please correct me. It doesnt make the hole argument false.

greetings

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Quote from: X68N on December 28, 2013, 03:22:15 AM

Quote from: stompix on December 27, 2013, 04:07:54 PM

So , because you see a salad in the McDonalds menu , you assume it's deep fried?

It seems you dont get the point what the problem is. I will try it.
The site is/was seen as a Benchmark which cryptocoin
gain in popularity (measured but mined coins * last price)

Now they added Ripple,Nxt,MasterCoin to the list which are like the direct opposite of Bitcoin.
They are centralised and "minted" = not mined.

So comparing a digital Currency with is minted vs. one which need time to be mined is
like cheating in a benchmark comprison, because the measurement is distorted=biased.
It like comparing the IQ of a kid with an adult. It is just biased.
The curiosity is, "biased" is used as argument against the people who point on the fact
the to types of currencies can not be compared on one page.

I hope i could explained the problem.

You don't get the point. That is a list of digital currencies. Not a list of currencies that are mined.
There is no definition nor for digital nor for cryptos that they have to be mined and not issued.

People try to force the principles of Bitcoin on all other coins , which is not right.
Also , your comparison is false by claiming that both MasterCoin and Ripple are centralized.
How are both of them centralized , using the same argument?

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Quote from: stompix on December 27, 2013, 04:07:54 PM

So , because you see a salad in the McDonalds menu , you assume it's deep fried?

It seems you dont get the point what the problem is. I will try it.
The site is/was seen as a Benchmark which cryptocoin
gain in popularity (measured but mined coins * last price)

Now they added Ripple,Nxt,MasterCoin to the list which are like the direct opposite of Bitcoin.
They are centralised and "minted" = not mined.

So comparing a digital Currency with is minted vs. one which need time to be mined is
like cheating in a benchmark comprison, because the measurement is distorted=biased.
It like comparing the IQ of a kid with an adult. It is just biased.
The curiosity is, "biased" is used as argument against the people who point on the fact
the to types of currencies can not be compared on one page.

I hope i could explained the problem.

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Quote from: JohnsonRobinson on December 27, 2013, 03:05:12 PM

Quote from: stompix on December 27, 2013, 02:53:34 PM

It's not the 2nd most popular.
And you can easily see that you can look at the chart by volume , name , price per unit etc.

Boycott? Why?
They list something. Do you pay them for this , are you forced to use them?
They haunt your dreams? Or are you butthurt because LTC isn't number 2 anymore.

If a coin is loosing value because it's not number 3 or 4 on some website , then that coin deserves to die.

Because, listing Ripple, a centrally controlled 'coin', together with genuine cryptocurrencies, which are actually decentralized, is an intentional deception to get us to believe that Ripple is decentralized.

www.RippleScam.org

So , because you see a salad in the McDonalds menu , you assume it's deep fried?

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try http://bitinfocharts.com/

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Quote from: stompix on December 27, 2013, 02:53:34 PM

It's not the 2nd most popular.
And you can easily see that you can look at the chart by volume , name , price per unit etc.

Boycott? Why?
They list something. Do you pay them for this , are you forced to use them?
They haunt your dreams? Or are you butthurt because LTC isn't number 2 anymore.

If a coin is loosing value because it's not number 3 or 4 on some website , then that coin deserves to die.

Because, listing Ripple, a centrally controlled 'coin', together with genuine cryptocurrencies, which are actually decentralized, is an intentional deception to get us to believe that Ripple is decentralized.

www.RippleScam.org

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Quote from: coinrevo on December 27, 2013, 02:50:53 PM

Quote from: JohnsonRobinson on December 27, 2013, 02:45:39 PM

Ripple is not a cryptocurrency.

It is not mined, it is not decentralized, it is issued by a company. It totally undermines these key cryptocurrency benefits.

I don't know. The people there have a lot of knowledge and have been working on this for many years. Much more than the other alt-coins. Proof-of-stake is arguably the same principle.

We are dealing with a crisis of trust, a crisis that corporations are a key part of.

Ripple issuance is controlled by a company.

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It's not the 2nd most popular.
And you can easily see that you can look at the chart by volume , name , price per unit etc.

Boycott? Why?
They list something. Do you pay them for this , are you forced to use them?
They haunt your dreams? Or are you butthurt because LTC isn't number 2 anymore.

If a coin is loosing value because it's not number 3 or 4 on some website , then that coin deserves to die.

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Quote from: JohnsonRobinson on December 27, 2013, 02:45:39 PM

Ripple is not a cryptocurrency.

It is not mined, it is not decentralized, it is issued by a company. It totally undermines these key cryptocurrency benefits.

I don't know. The people there have a lot of knowledge and have been working on this for many years. Much more than the other alt-coins. Proof-of-stake is arguably the same principle.

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Well, even if you account for pre-mining, underlying problem is really new issuance. So the total supply figure is in some cases meaningless. In the end exchanges or other intermediaries will make decisions, akin to stock market tiers. Some of these "coins" are really a joke, but some are determined to lose their money.

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Ripple is not a cryptocurrency.

It is not mined, it is not decentralized, it is issued by a company. It totally undermines these key cryptocurrency benefits.

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