Topic: Time to end the XMR vs DASH battle: Confessions of a Dash Enthusiast - page 3. (Read 7433 times)

Those that FUD Monero and try to make bad public image are not only from DASH. Monero is dangerous to way more other coins then just one.  


As i said milion times everyone has right to tell the truth. Actually should be our duty. At least for those with strong nerves. No one should spread lies and modify history.  That will return to DASH and other coins as a boomerang. Also this action here.



lol when i checked your post history i just found what i posted up.

crippled
raped
no wallet

why need to post lies? all 3 words are untrue.

Of course he does condone, but won't say anything on record.

Only this time there was a backlash and butts are hurt when the premier troll hero icebreaker is humiliated for his premature ejaculation.

what if the "monero troll team" is damaging intentionally XMR and DASH as reverse trolling from some other coin?

for example:

coin x, y and z are competitors.
 
trolls from coin x dress themselves as troll from coin y to attack z.

coin y and z get both reputation damage, spam accusations and so on.

coin x wins.

assuming y is monero and z is dash. who might be coin x in this situation?

You're not my friend. You don't get to use my first name.

I honestly don't see the trolling you claim exists. Sure, iCEBREAKER goes off on things, but he's no worse than Spoetnik. I think people need to stop being so sensitive and use the ignore button. I certainly have no control over what iCEBREAKER says or doesn't say, nor would I ever want to waste what little influence I have trying to force the community to follow my ideological beliefs.

That said, I definitely do not condone TheDashGuy's asking for donations and implying the donations would go towards him working on Monero:


That is borderline fraud.

Someone scratched my novel and killed my sock. Moderators are always cramping my style.

Good advice. I think I will go promote Dash a bit on Twitter and then go to bed. I'll catch up with you guys tomorrow. Cheers.

Your first attempt to imply that "crickets" had anything to do with anything was debunked...now you are at it again?

Speaks volumes?

Why not just be patient, not everyone responds instantly as you would appear to want.

Take a step back and perhaps go do something else and return later and maybe you'll get a response.  

I wasn't talking to you here, I was asking a question to Riccardo. I have nothing to do with this OP caper, I just know that this whole thing is getting both sides nowhere fast. So I'm not trolling.

I do not condone trolling from either side. I also do not condone censorship over legitimate debate and criticism from anybody in Dash. While I can't control anyone and can't stop them from doing these things if they wish to, I've been abundantly clear where I stand on these issues. I'm simply asking a respected member of the Monero community where he stands on them, and I'm still waiting for an answer.

Silence speaks volumes...

Hmm Trolling ? Donations ? Drama ?
..yawn i am bored 

Wake me up when something interesting happens !

I just find it interesting seeing more than 1 guy Trolling then admitting it and then bragging about it.
Are we aware of the rules here ?

My side of the fight ?
Neither.. Anon coins are a bad idea.
Sorry guys 

Holy fuck…

As someone, who isn't really involved in this feud, this thread looks quite impressive. Started today and 4 pages already.

Is there any other reason for Dash and Monero screaming at each other, apart from them having the same potential use cases and users?

Guys, do take a look here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/4r9mc9/time_to_end_the_xmr_vs_dash_battle_confessions_of/

Some of us (including those on the Dash core team and devs) are willing to make the refund if TheDashGuy refuses.

Can you name the Monero trolls that you're talking about?

Are you even cognizant of the fact that you're exploiting a piece of reverse-troll propaganda and thus in actuality yourself trolling? Do you condone Dash trolls, or are you in denial that such a thing exists?



You say you don't condone censorship from the Dash moderation team - that is BasilPop, evand82 (Evan Duffield), tungfa and others.

Are you going to condone these guys? Are you going to condone Evan Duffield?

Do you have any appreciation of the size of the hypocrisy you're currently peddling? And how is it that critical dissent is forbidden on the Dashpay reddit where blatant racism is tolerated. (Yes. That is actually a thing.)

Your hypocrisy is absolutely stunning.

Not really. I'm going on record as saying that I don't condone censorship, people getting banned because someone doesn't agree with a post on Reddit. My position on this is clear. Enough of the bullshit and let's get on with the business at hand of making the future currencies of the world.

I've asked you before, and I will ask you again, do you or do you not condone the actions of the Monero trolls? Do you think that trolling other coins is a good way to gain publicity? Are you happy that people think of this when they think about Monero?

I'm still waiting for an answer, Riccardo.

This Monero - Dash rivalry is like a bad sitcom. And yes that is a pleonasm.

Can we just please let it go? if anything he has proven how nice the Monero community is. Trolls be trollin'....

In my opinion all has been said about dash, re iterating the same arguments for another few years will change nothing. It will collapse under its pretense of mass adoption (when there is no mass adoption of crypto in sight), the weak liquidity, the high concentration of funds in very few hands, the insolvable ambiguity of company antics run by amateurish managers versus open source development or the only currently existing use case which is to pay close to 4000 nodes for verifying a few transactions every 5 minutes, further adding to the concentration of funds. lol.

Yes, monero has even less transactions. It also doesn't require 27,x million USD tied up in nodes to do that. I can't even write that without shaking my head....

No need to harp on the instamine any longer.

I personally can live with signature whores, newbie accounts and scamcoin proponents calling the Monero community arrogant and obnoxious. Who gives a shit.

First up, the reason you had "crickets" from me was because I was asleep. I'm sorry I chose to sleep at 3am instead of continuing this discussion. I find it's always best to remember that people live all over the world, and long-form discussions don't need to occur when you happen to be online.

Now to the point: your quoted post is incredibly hypocritical. You're calling on me to speak for some individuals on one social media site, because apparently their actions equate to Monero's actions. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Typical muffled indignation I expect out of politicians and used cars salesmen. You have your goons also, so the turning the tables while getting paid is hardly justified by a "I don't like his methods, but it's about time" attitude.

As for dash being a house of scam, go ahead and take exception. Dash's media claims it is decentralized, yet it is designed to be centralized https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14601018, and the media claims dash was fairly launched and has no premine without stating that it has the equivalent of one through the process of an "accidental" instamine--you can play naïve on your own time, but I know when semantical distinctions that are attempting to misguide and circumvent reality are being put into full force and creating obscene arguments of "well it's the truth because you can't prove otherwise."  

This is my time and I'd appreciate if you didn't waste it with fluff and false claims of indignation--while I can't prove that you know better and aren't the slimiest of the bunch (hiding under a veneer of chimerical enthusiasm) if you slip-up once and lose your actor's notes....

Imagine being given 300 Bitcoins in 2011, when they were worth almost 2 dollars each.

Now imagine rage dumping them, Because [Something Offensive On Bitcointalk].

That's what TheDashGuy has done here.

I'm a Dash enthusiast and also hold XMR and respect both projects. I also accept Dash for my businesses.

Only reason I haven't started accepting XMR is there isn't a way for me to do the USD pricing conversion to XMR easily and the lack of an official GUI (which I understand will be completed by year end) so hopefully this will change soon.

As much as I have also experienced XMR trolls, I don't think there's any need for Dash supporters to mud fling back. Doesn't help the cause in anyway.

@DashGuy: If you want to represent Dash and mean well (or any coin for that matter), do it with respect and argue on the facts. XMR's anonymity is solid that is not in dispute and Dash has decided to go for a different approach. I know you mean well and are ardently fervent about Dash (but yet unhappy with Dash's core team at the same time) and think that Dash are stupid for not taking up your suggestions, but things like these serve no purpose other than to

a) Get attention (the bad sort)
b) Make people pissed off.

Tell me, how does this help Dash's cause in gloating over making a swindle? How does 'trolling' the trollers make you any better? I would even say this makes you even worse. This doesn't "teach them a lesson" in anyway but just further builds distrust and hate.

I hope the donations you gathered for DashNation are returned to the original donaters or at least given to Monero as a show of good faith.

To the Monero supporters, I apologize on behalf of DashGuy. He is not representative of a great many of us. I once made a similar comparison of Monero's community (after receiving some nasty messages when I accepted Dash) and was given the response that they are not representative of Monero's community either and hope the same benefit of the doubt can be given to the Dash community. I think even on the reddit post, many Dash enthusiasts are frankly embarrassed (as am I).


Please do take him.

The actions of some individuals in one social media site does not equate to Dash suppressing free speech. I can't speak for the individual you speak of (I would need examples) but I can for myself and I am perfectly OK with criticism and debate. Dash.org, the Dash ANN, the Dash Nation thread are all either unmoderated or slightly moderated for BS like spam. Plenty of avenues to get valid opinions and criticism in.


No, I'm not condoning it. The actions of The Dash Guy, while solely for the purpose of turning the tables on people who have been attacking Dash mercilessly for years, might not have been the best way to get his point across.

As far as the "scam" comments, just so we're clear, I'm talking about your "house of scammers" comment, which would certainly imply the whole Dash project. So I understand fine the meaning of your previous comment, and that is the one I took exception to.

Always nice to debate you, I always had a soft spot for you...