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Quote from: Mauser on March 04, 2021, 04:56:36 AM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on May 25, 2019, 12:46:01 PM

I don't understand the concept of mourners/bereaved family members being made to shovel sand into a grave before it is covered once a deceased is lowered into it.

What the heck is that?

Some say it is a reminder that man is from dust and will ever return to dust. Don't we all know that. Do we really need that kind of reminder? I guess not.

People already know all that, except kids and funerals aren't meant for kids. But then, man has always looked for ways to glamourise even the ugliest of opportunities at funerals.

Also, I am of the opinion that sermons and preachings at funerals are time wasting. Yes! It's unnecessary time wasting because no amount of preaching during funerals has ever converted anyone. People are just after the food and drinks. Nothing more!

What do you guys think?

I don't find funerals a waste of time. They are helping friends and family to move on. It's a few hours on a special day, I am not sure why you would be skipping it. Like the thing with families and friends is that they usually don't live in the same city or even state. So with the funeral everybody is coming, you usually get a day of from work which makes travelling a lot easier. And you will be able to meet friends and family you haven't meet in a while. I hope we won't stop with funerals.

I believe that this is a religious belief mate , Lets Look how our brothers Muslim has , As far as i know (According to my Muslim friends ) their Dead love one must be put on grave before the sun down , meaning there is only short time for mourning , Please correct me if I'm wrong here mate.
While in Christian beliefs there must be a Funeral service that lasts from 3 days to sometime longer , I remember My brother died back in December and my parents wanted the funeral to be last up to January 2 for the reason Christmas and Newyear is no longer fun because we have someone to Mourn .

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on March 05, 2021, 06:15:39 AM

Quote from: Chato1977 on March 04, 2021, 06:31:55 AM

Why should I? you are the one who called it as HECK you stupid one? and in CORRECT English ? as if you are a literal english speaker ?

Get a Life you and Pay respect to our religion , I don't know what have you do in your dead people , but ours ? they are most respected and the emotion is indeed deep.

I don't know why you're so insinuative over a harmless post as that. Could it be that you make a living from funerals and you felt threatened by my post that someone was about to take the feeder off your mouth? Well, I merely expressed a concern and asked others for their opinions concerning that and didn't go past that line. Whatever your fancies are, they're yours and shouldn't be imposed on others. And for the fact that someone didn't agree with what you think shouldn't amount to name dropping. You talked about religion there whereas it's tradition that's in question. If it were religion, I liked for you to cite such from a religious book.

Again, you may want to learn how to express yourself in simple but correct English.

Now, go get a life!

so you are really affected now ? continues posting here even if this is not part " Of Your Paid Post from your Signature " Hahaha

Common Man don't Be Butthurt and lets not use insult from how people post in english because it only reveals that you are a Trying hard english speaker also Stupid Loser Cheesy

if i am to get a Life then what is for you?

Maybe when someone from your tribe dies? you have just Dump them like a Dead Rabbit in the Bush ? Cheesy

Live a life that what represent your Tribe and don't pretend that you Knew how city life is Cheesy

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Quote from: Chato1977 on March 04, 2021, 06:31:55 AM

Why should I? you are the one who called it as HECK you stupid one? and in CORRECT English ? as if you are a literal english speaker ?

Get a Life you and Pay respect to our religion , I don't know what have you do in your dead people , but ours ? they are most respected and the emotion is indeed deep.

I don't know why you're so insinuative over a harmless post as that. Could it be that you make a living from funerals and you felt threatened by my post that someone was about to take the feeder off your mouth? Well, I merely expressed a concern and asked others for their opinions concerning that and didn't go past that line. Whatever your fancies are, they're yours and shouldn't be imposed on others. And for the fact that someone didn't agree with what you think shouldn't amount to name dropping. You talked about religion there whereas it's tradition that's in question. If it were religion, I liked for you to cite such from a religious book.

Again, you may want to learn how to express yourself in simple but correct English.

Now, go get a life!

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Every religion has their own system and traditions which is done to mourn the departed soul and various offering and prayers are offered. This is belief where people want to do it or follow it or no. There would be reasons to it and that is why it is done and also say have you decided for yourself and written a not that after you are away from earth what and how it should be done ?

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on June 02, 2020, 11:39:56 PM

Quote from: Chato1977 on June 02, 2020, 11:32:52 PM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on May 25, 2019, 12:46:01 PM

I don't understand the concept of mourners/bereaved family members being made to shovel sand into a grave before it is covered once a deceased is lowered into it.

What the heck is that?

Thats not Heck,instead you are the Heck of us,why do you care about others belief ?respect ours and we will respect you STUPID one.

Hey, mind your language and stop addressing people rudely. The OP is meant as a question and was never addressed to anyone in particular. No insults. But if that's what you do or it's your belief system you might explain your view in simple and CORRECT English and not hurl insults here. This is a sane community. Otherwise you won't go far.

Why should I? you are the one who called it as HECK you stupid one? and in CORRECT English ? as if you are a literal english speaker ?

Get a Life you and Pay respect to our religion , I don't know what have you do in your dead people , but ours ? they are most respected and the emotion is indeed deep.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 26, 2019, 06:17:41 AM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on May 25, 2019, 12:46:01 PM

I don't understand the concept of mourners/bereaved family members being made to shovel sand into a grave before it is covered once a deceased is lowered into it.

What the heck is that?

Some say it is a reminder that man is from dust and will ever return to dust. Don't we all know that. Do we really need that kind of reminder? I guess not.

People already know all that, except kids and funerals aren't meant for kids. But then, man has always looked for ways to glamourise even the ugliest of opportunities at funerals.

Also, I am of the opinion that sermons and preachings at funerals are time wasting. Yes! It's unnecessary time wasting because no amount of preaching during funerals has ever converted anyone. People are just after the food and drinks. Nothing more!

What do you guys think?

In my opinion through funerals we show our respect toward deceased people.
Usually the death of a family member is a very difficult emotional loss for family and relatives.
Family need a certain funeral ceremony and mourning so that they can face the loss of loved ones.
You will understand when you are older.

I would like to give some merit to you but it seems that I don't have any sMerit right now.
And I agree it is for those who truly loves the deceased every moment that they could to see their love ones wouldn't be consider as a waste for them.
Not everyone is the same as OP had mention some of the people who goes at the funneral goes there to show respect to grieve or mourn with the family not just for the food or drinks.
But we are free to tell our own opinion.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on May 25, 2019, 12:46:01 PM

I don't understand the concept of mourners/bereaved family members being made to shovel sand into a grave before it is covered once a deceased is lowered into it.

What the heck is that?

Some say it is a reminder that man is from dust and will ever return to dust. Don't we all know that. Do we really need that kind of reminder? I guess not.

People already know all that, except kids and funerals aren't meant for kids. But then, man has always looked for ways to glamourise even the ugliest of opportunities at funerals.

Also, I am of the opinion that sermons and preachings at funerals are time wasting. Yes! It's unnecessary time wasting because no amount of preaching during funerals has ever converted anyone. People are just after the food and drinks. Nothing more!

What do you guys think?

I don't find funerals a waste of time. They are helping friends and family to move on. It's a few hours on a special day, I am not sure why you would be skipping it. Like the thing with families and friends is that they usually don't live in the same city or even state. So with the funeral everybody is coming, you usually get a day of from work which makes travelling a lot easier. And you will be able to meet friends and family you haven't meet in a while. I hope we won't stop with funerals.

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If you know the meaning of the word "RESPECT" then you'll have not to ask things like this.

We have our own Beliefs and rights on what is our ancestors tells us what to do , If you don't have mourning in your world , well then we have it.

We show our last Goodbyes to our love ones and sorry to say but you must not care about what we have , Do your own and let us do ours. simply as that.

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It's just a way to pay your condolences to those no longer with us.

It's about respect and tradition and I don't think there is anything wrong with continuing this tradition.

I have buried many loves ones and its the same routine every time.

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Lol, you sound very pained, almost like you jabe attended many funerals, and they have wasted a lot of your time. Blacks most especially believe in elaborate activities, that is why their funerals and even wedding ceremonies are filled with many unimportant activities. It is such a pity.

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i mean, yeah, if you're seeing it in a technical point of view. i guess people are just sticking with the tradition...

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Quote from: Johnzky on August 06, 2019, 10:59:20 AM

Quote from: BADecker on August 05, 2019, 11:29:10 PM

Family reunion. Cool

Exactly mate,actually most of the time funeral turns as family reunion because almost the whole family members also extended family goes to the mourn special in the last night before settling under 7ft I know this is not part of tradition but maybe this kind of occasion gives the opportunity to the family members to take a OFF from work or what they are doing in life and go tighter to see each other again.and this may happen again when someone died in future lol 😂

I suddenly recall and agree, that in some families wherein there's no actual organized annual family reunion, a funeral gathering does serve the same purpose too.

Also, it's a way for everyone to pay their respects to the dearly departed friend or family member, an opportunity to see everybody else and to keep in touch once again since everyone's usually too busy nowadays.

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I don't think.
This is a traditional practice that we should uphold and remember.
because whatever you don't get reminded you might eventually forget about it, and the younger generation will no longer know it.

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Well we have different belief and traditions. It might be a waste of time because it cant change anything. But for some people having a funeral for their loved ones is a way to remember their time spent here and for the family to send their final goodbyes.

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Quote from: Chato1977 on June 02, 2020, 11:32:52 PM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on May 25, 2019, 12:46:01 PM

I don't understand the concept of mourners/bereaved family members being made to shovel sand into a grave before it is covered once a deceased is lowered into it.

What the heck is that?

Thats not Heck,instead you are the Heck of us,why do you care about others belief ?respect ours and we will respect you STUPID one.

Hey, mind your language and stop addressing people rudely. The OP is meant as a question and was never addressed to anyone in particular. No insults. But if that's what you do or it's your belief system you might explain your view in simple and CORRECT English and not hurl insults here. This is a sane community. Otherwise you won't go far.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on May 25, 2019, 12:46:01 PM

I don't understand the concept of mourners/bereaved family members being made to shovel sand into a grave before it is covered once a deceased is lowered into it.

What the heck is that?

Thats not Heck,instead you are the Heck of us,why do you care about others belief ?respect ours and we will respect you STUPID one.

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Quote from: KiloFoxtrot on June 02, 2020, 04:20:42 AM

A corpse is indeed just that, I agree.

But a person who once lived has a soul...

That's where my point succinctly lies — granted that the soul returns to the maker or perishes in hell according to the Bible, then why do we labour to spend a lot during burials? It makes no sense to me. It's just that the bereaved only want to make a point that they could afford to bury their corpse well. Nothing else. Again, I m sure the prayers rendered on a corpse at funeral is needless because it doesn't change the destination of the corpse. The Bible tells us that once a man dies, judgment follows him immediately. His fate is decided even before he's buried.

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I don’t think a funeral is needed at all. Personally, I want that after the death of my physical body and after my departure from the material world, so that my relatives do not engage in this nonsense. I approximately know what to expect after death and how it all happens in reality, therefore I can say that it’s better not to bury a person, but to burn it.
Moreover, I see no reason to be sad! Why we must say goodbye to a person with tears and negative emotions, who is better off from this? It seems to me that on the contrary, we should be happy for a person, that now he is not burdened with a physical material body, and only the best is waiting for him. For example, a funeral may be as follows (at 2:46) : https://youtu.be/V1bFr2SWP1I?t=161

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on June 02, 2020, 01:23:49 AM

Quote from: hoverdrone on August 06, 2019, 09:53:32 PM

We pay respect to the deceased person, it is important for everyone

Quote from: omegasoldier on August 07, 2019, 06:21:43 PM

People say goodbye to a person, it's normal in the 21st century

Saying goodbye to a person is normal but what does it mean saying goodbye to a corpse? It's utter trash, IMO. The only sensible goodbye one can say is to take good care of someone when they are sick or in lack, not when they're dead. Dead people don't have feelings. I think people just want to shoe off during funerals (especially in Africa) of how affluent and wealthy they are. That's just it, not as if they truly care.

A corpse is indeed just that, I agree.

But a person who once lived has a soul, which we can neither confirm nor deny the fact until we ourselves had gone through that death or near-death experience for ourselves.

Nonetheless, caring for a loved one even before they're born (while inside a mother's womb), knowing them well while growing up (as a sibling, extended family member or friend), including having personal and/or business relationships (throughout the person's life experiences), or maybe while taking care of them when they're sick are all the possible circumstances that a person may experience with another while they're still living in this world.

Respect though is another story altogether, for when you leave this world, you leave it alone. But for those you left behind, they are the ones who mourn and pray for their dearly departed loved ones instead.

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Quote from: hoverdrone on August 06, 2019, 09:53:32 PM

We pay respect to the deceased person, it is important for everyone

Quote from: omegasoldier on August 07, 2019, 06:21:43 PM

People say goodbye to a person, it's normal in the 21st century

Saying goodbye to a person is normal but what does it mean saying goodbye to a corpse? It's utter trash, IMO. The only sensible goodbye one can say is to take good care of someone when they are sick or in lack, not when they're dead. Dead people don't have feelings. I think people just want to shoe off during funerals (especially in Africa) of how affluent and wealthy they are. That's just it, not as if they truly care.

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