Tipping homeless people with Bitcoin paper wallets

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Quote from: eaLiTy on June 29, 2017, 04:24:53 PM

Quote from: 2girls on June 29, 2017, 10:09:07 AM

They are homeless for a reason and if we would stop helping them they would die and the problem would be solved. We need to be creating a stronger race and not supporting to broken portions of the race, diluting the gene pool.

I can understand that it is your dumb opinion,but no one will agree to this,how do you create a strong race if you are not able to show compassionate because humans are known for that and that is the difference between an animal and a human being.You are just a Nazi and i am out talking to you,get a life dude.If anyone wants to tip the homeless make sure that you could do that with fiat currency because it will be more useful for them than getting a paper wallet.

In my opinion, You keep feeding the homeless and we will keep building those that have something to offer and we will compare the results in ten years and see what happens.

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It is exactly this "helping" that causes the society to become how it is now. These are not people that are going to change, they are people that are going to destroy us and create a race that the universe will laugh at and scorn. God help us if aliens ever do take a peek at us, perhaps they have a that is why they marked a few fields and moved on. Crop circle reading "avoid, damaged goods!".

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Quote from: Iranus on June 29, 2017, 02:58:13 PM

Quote from: franky1 on June 29, 2017, 10:24:25 AM

Quote from: 2girls on June 29, 2017, 10:09:07 AM

They are homeless for a reason and if we would stop helping them they would die and the problem would be solved. We need to be creating a stronger race and not supporting to broken portions of the race, diluting the gene pool.

P.S being rich is not a stronger race.
Kim kardasian, trump, kenye west are not a good/strong gene pool for our future

Capitalism encourages greed, which is a negative trait. It's safe to say that the working and middle classes tend to be more morally sound than particularly rich and/or famous people. You can say "the rich donate to charity", but the amount that say, Bill Gates lives on is still dramatically higher than any normal person, so he is not generous. Nor is he responsible for everything that Microsoft has done.

Homelessness can be for a variety of reasons and drugs or alcohol can be a contributing factor, but it's futile to suggest that it has to be the reason or that homeless people are incapable of having money.

The point is, giving paper wallets to homeless people is dumb. It would be much better to just explain to them ways in which you believe Bitcoin would help them and potentially donate after that to give them an incentive to use it (if that's the aim of giving them a paper wallet anyway).

Capitalism does not encourage anything, that comes from the people, whether you like capitalism or not that is the only system that is proven to work on a massive scale, is it perfect? No, but it is way better than communism and all other systems that have been created, because people will only work if they can keep most of the benefits of their work to themselves.

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good idea but we should never give them illegitimate paper wallet to troll them. however, printing the bitcoin paper wallet, especially when you are planning to print certainly large amount of that, make sure to have some crowdfunding to seek some of the group's support.

Quote from: DuaLipa on June 29, 2017, 07:52:38 PM

Awesome idea but the fee is high. So when you give paper wallet, they can't send it to somewhere else to cash out. The amount disappears due to fee.

use altcoin, they are most likely to have far less dollar equivalent transaction fees.

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Awesome idea but the fee is high. So when you give paper wallet, they can't send it to somewhere else to cash out. The amount disappears due to fee.

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Quote from: BitcoinHodler on June 29, 2017, 06:56:56 AM

giving a homeless people bitcoin instead of simple cash is like giving a hungry person spoon, fork, plate, glass in different shapes and sizes but no food!

Exactly good comparison, how can a homeless man cash it out if he only thinks all the time that if it's not money, he won't be having benefit on it. Better to directly give him a cash or anything that can help him to survive but just like the saying, it's better to teach a homeless man how to fish instead of giving him a fish to eat. Teach him on how to use and earn bitcoin instead of tipping him paper wallets.

Just please check if these are real homeless not some gypsy mafia beggars. Never heard of gypsy mafia? Here's how it works.
They offer work, usually to women with children. They give them transport and housing, in London for instance, and every morning send them on their way to beg. IN the evening they pick them up by car and take most of their money.

Never give beggars money, offer them a meal.

I have watched a video of a woman that is begging money on the road but she is only on disguise. She didn't know that there is someone spying and taking her on video after a while when possible she collected well. She get on her car and undress with her beggar costume. But still there are some real people who are homeless, you can observe most of them are not begging.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on June 29, 2017, 04:11:38 PM

Quote from: BitcoinHodler on June 29, 2017, 06:56:56 AM

giving a homeless people bitcoin instead of simple cash is like giving a hungry person spoon, fork, plate, glass in different shapes and sizes but no food!

Exactly good comparison, how can a homeless man cash it out if he only thinks all the time that if it's not money, he won't be having benefit on it. Better to directly give him a cash or anything that can help him to survive but just like the saying, it's better to teach a homeless man how to fish instead of giving him a fish to eat. Teach him on how to use and earn bitcoin instead of tipping him paper wallets.

Just please check if these are real homeless not some gypsy mafia beggars. Never heard of gypsy mafia? Here's how it works.
They offer work, usually to women with children. They give them transport and housing, in London for instance, and every morning send them on their way to beg. IN the evening they pick them up by car and take most of their money.

Never give beggars money, offer them a meal.

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Quote from: 2girls on June 29, 2017, 10:09:07 AM

They are homeless for a reason and if we would stop helping them they would die and the problem would be solved. We need to be creating a stronger race and not supporting to broken portions of the race, diluting the gene pool.

I can understand that it is your dumb opinion,but no one will agree to this,how do you create a strong race if you are not able to show compassionate because humans are known for that and that is the difference between an animal and a human being.You are just a Nazi and i am out talking to you,get a life dude.If anyone wants to tip the homeless make sure that you could do that with fiat currency because it will be more useful for them than getting a paper wallet.

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Quote from: BitcoinHodler on June 29, 2017, 06:56:56 AM

giving a homeless people bitcoin instead of simple cash is like giving a hungry person spoon, fork, plate, glass in different shapes and sizes but no food!

Exactly good comparison, how can a homeless man cash it out if he only thinks all the time that if it's not money, he won't be having benefit on it. Better to directly give him a cash or anything that can help him to survive but just like the saying, it's better to teach a homeless man how to fish instead of giving him a fish to eat. Teach him on how to use and earn bitcoin instead of tipping him paper wallets.

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I've seen a fair few pics of the homeless with QR codes and so on. Obviously they'd need certain amount of infrastructure but everyone has a phone these days. I guess you could do cash via localbitcoins.

It's not as silly as it sounds.

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Quote from: Pistacia on June 28, 2017, 07:04:05 AM

ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people
would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin?
would they learn it?
maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem

who wants to join me doing this

we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis

How would the use that currency, immediately to get food or smokes or booze or whatever they need? They really can't...unless you handed out prepaid debit cards with loaded bitcoin. The adoption by retailers is way to slow and decentralized.

There was a guy in San Francisco that was giving away bitcoin as a treasure hunt of sorts. S/he would tweet clues about where they left the bitcoin wallet. You can still read the twitter feed here: https://twitter.com/sfhiddenbitcoin?lang=en

It's a great idea, I just think you need to make it incredibly easy for the homeless recipient to spend the bitcoin, after all what they need most is spending power (not bitcoin locked in a wallet).

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Quote from: franky1 on June 29, 2017, 10:24:25 AM

Quote from: 2girls on June 29, 2017, 10:09:07 AM

They are homeless for a reason and if we would stop helping them they would die and the problem would be solved. We need to be creating a stronger race and not supporting to broken portions of the race, diluting the gene pool.

P.S being rich is not a stronger race.
Kim kardasian, trump, kenye west are not a good/strong gene pool for our future

Capitalism encourages greed, which is a negative trait. It's safe to say that the working and middle classes tend to be more morally sound than particularly rich and/or famous people. You can say "the rich donate to charity", but the amount that say, Bill Gates lives on is still dramatically higher than any normal person, so he is not generous. Nor is he responsible for everything that Microsoft has done.

Homelessness can be for a variety of reasons and drugs or alcohol can be a contributing factor, but it's futile to suggest that it has to be the reason or that homeless people are incapable of having money.

The point is, giving paper wallets to homeless people is dumb. It would be much better to just explain to them ways in which you believe Bitcoin would help them and potentially donate after that to give them an incentive to use it (if that's the aim of giving them a paper wallet anyway).

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 29, 2017, 12:50:41 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on June 28, 2017, 05:36:26 PM

Fuck this. Most homeless are either too drug-addled or too mentally ill to even comprehend the significance of a paper wallet of anything. Handing out money to bums is a bad idea anyway. They'll just drink it up or otherwise squander it. No sense in that.

Yikes, not all homeless people are bums and drunks and drug addicts. ^grrrrrr^ I help out at a homeless shelter every second Saturday and I see whole families without a roof over their head, because they either lost their jobs or they ran into financial difficulty because someone in their family could not afford health insurance and they had to sell their house to pay for medical bills. So STFU if you have not dealt with these people and shared their misery.

OP, Do what you need to do to help these people, because some people judge them without knowing their personal circumstances. ^grrrrrrr^

I deal with homeless every day. I wouldn't give any of them any money--especially not bitcoin--unless you had a gun to my head. And it's not that I don't care. I just believe money in most of their hands is wasted. A lot of it goes towards drugs and alcohol and that's pretty hard to deny. And I'm not even talking about homeless shelter people. I'm talking about the real bums living in cardboard tents, shitting themselves. They should not have money. And as pointed out, a paper wallet is useless and cruel if you give it to them.

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Quote from: Doms on June 28, 2017, 08:28:39 PM

I'd rather donate to charitable institutions or non-government organizations than give pittance to the homeless. Because giving money to the homeless on an everyday basis is like encouraging them to continue with that way of life. There are many other ways you can help them, if that is what you really intend to do, but letting them depend on dole outs might not be the wisest of ideas.

That is commendable from you but at the same time those organizations are very inefficient, most of the money goes to operative costs, and marketing campaigns, so it is not like they are helping as much people as they could, that is why it is a difficult decision sometimes to decide to give money to charities since you know that most of the money you donate is not going to help anyone.

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Quote from: Pistacia on June 28, 2017, 07:04:05 AM

ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people
would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin?
would they learn it?
maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem

who wants to join me doing this

we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis

Its purpose is good but we need to think more about this. We should think about their way to use that wallet. How can they use them when they dont even have a house. When they redeem that wallet, it's still hard for them to exchange into real cash. We should work more on this idea.

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Quote from: Tazmo on June 29, 2017, 10:25:56 AM

Homeless ppl dont even have phones dude...

but they can hold onto a piece of paper. and use a library or jobcentre computer.

the real problem is not technology but ability to convert bitcoin into fiat. (online exchanges need bank accounts and ID / residence checks)

i think a 'foodbank'/cafe/meetup service that accept bitcoin would be better strategy so that the homeless that have been given a paperwallet have a place to go to to use it.

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Homeless ppl dont even have phones dude...

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Quote from: 2girls on June 29, 2017, 10:09:07 AM

They are homeless for a reason and if we would stop helping them they would die and the problem would be solved. We need to be creating a stronger race and not supporting to broken portions of the race, diluting the gene pool.

there is a saying 'your only 3 missed mortgage repayments away from being homeless'
seems like your the kind of person that if someone cant pay a mortgage they should die....

im guessing you love how banks work and feel only the rich should own the planet..

i think the original purpose, ethos and ideology of bitcoin is completely lost on you

P.S being rich is not a stronger race.
Kim kardasian, trump, kenye west are not a good/strong gene pool for our future

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Also Those that cannot sppport themselves in the animal kingdoem die and that is the place that humans need to get back to, we are destroying who we are and we are destroying the future.

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They are homeless for a reason and if we would stop helping them they would die and the problem would be solved. We need to be creating a stronger race and not supporting to broken portions of the race, diluting the gene pool.

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