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Topic: Tipping homeless people with Bitcoin paper wallets - page 2. (Read 2153 times)

legendary
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Give homeless a paper wallet will require them to learn how to use it properly and for sure, to learn something they will need another money. Since homeless needs something faster to use, cash or foods, gave them a paper wallet is not a good choice to make.
sr. member
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ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people
would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin?
would they learn it?
maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem

who wants to join me doing this

we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis

i think it's impossible because of the these reasons:
1. they don't know anything about bitcoin or any technology stuff because they can't afford to buy a smartphone.
2. even though someone gave bitcoin they know how to turn it into cash they don't have a bank account to receive their money.
So, it's better to give them a fiat and even a food to help them to satisfy their daily need atleast for once.
 
hero member
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giving a homeless people bitcoin instead of simple cash is like giving a hungry person spoon, fork, plate, glass in different shapes and sizes but no food!
staff
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I think it would be better to give the homeless people with either fiat money or food, it is much better than giving them bitcoin paper wallets as I think they might not even know what is bitcoin in the first place. Even if they do knew about bitcoin, it still requires them to have some knowledge to exchange the bitcoins into fiat money, and it would not be an easy task for them.
hero member
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ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people
would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin?
would they learn it?
maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem

who wants to join me doing this

we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis

First of all, I don't like giving homeless people money. I would much rather get them a meal or a drink so I know what I am spending the money on. God knows what they would use the money for if you just handed it to them. Secondly, there are practically no homeless people that have access to the internet, which basically renders all use of Bitcoin obsolete. Also, I doubt they would have any knowledge on what Bitcoin is and probably no clue on how to use it to buy anything. We haven't reached a point in Bitcoin's life where we can start giving people money in the form of Bitcoin and expect them to already know what it is and how to use it. Maybe in a couple years, maybe never, who knows when we will be able to give homeless people paper wallets, knowing that they know how to, and have the resources, to use it.
hero member
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2. to rebut red-apple: though the homeless may have been rejected from society they can still go to libraries or other places and borrow their internet services

i was mainly speaking locally based on my experience and the situation in my country. where i live there is no "free internet" and libraries don't offer such services!
and besides it is not a matter of if they can do it or not it is how much harder it is to use bitcoin for a homeless person than using cash is!
hero member
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Hahaha, that made my day sir Smiley

I really don't believe that giving someone bitcoins in the form of paper wallet is going to change their life for the better. The worst that can happen is that the guy thinks you're mocking him and giving him magic internet monies, and throws it away in disgust. The best that can happen is that he redeems the bitcoin, and sells it for cash(idk how he/she has an internet connection and a working pc when they are homeless on the streets, though Roll Eyes)

Rather, if you really care about homeless people, approach them with what they need. Get them some food, which is probably their most immediate need, and IF they have the interest, then talk to them about bitcoin. Or better yet, offer them work opportunities which pays in bitcoin. Obviously, it'll be hard to achieve, but if some big bitcoin personality can help make this happen, it's going to boost the public imageg of btc drastically.
sr. member
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ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people
would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin?
would they learn it?
maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem

who wants to join me doing this

we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis


It is stupid idea, in order for homeless to use bitcoin they need a smartphone and internet connection. Even if there's so many free internet connection, they still need a smartphone, bank account (to exchange it to fiat). Too much work to do (assuming they know bitcoin). Better give them the cash or food if you want to give them something.
newbie
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With paper wallets you can not buy beer or cigarettes, so they have no interest receiving it ! That may sound harsh, but this is the cold hard truth !
hero member
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I think I dont like this idea, there is a chance that homeless dont know bitcoin and it will be difficult for the homeless to cash it out, as not all shop is accepting bitcoin and I doubt the homeless got phone with wifi, I think cash is more reasonable for the homeless
hero member
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They will lose most of the tips in transaction fees so instead of filing the pockets of miners you can just give them cash  Grin

True true true Grin

I guess the general idea here is to get someone into using bitcoin, and make sure that they understand how bitcoin work. I mean give a man a fish... yeah you get the point there. Giving cash will only increase people's dependency on it, whilst telling them about something else that will be cash v2.0 is much more beneficial to them than just getting them something to eat for a day.

I wouldn't say that the best way to do it is to use paper wallets though. Most of these people don't even have electronic devices to import the private keys. Nor can they safely store that paper wallet somewhere. If you're a bitcoin philantropist, making a mini phone that is only able to conduct btc transactions that sells for like $20 each and giving some away makes a lot of sense.
legendary
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The homeless in the USA and the beggars here in Italy (on vacation here in Italy) would not know what to do with paper BTC wallets.  They don't have computers, nor likely know what to do with a paper wallet.  

Most educated people (with computers) I know personally do not know what to do with a paper wallet either!

Stick to giving them a euro or a buck.  That's what they want and can easily use.
hero member
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Okay I see the point that you want to help but how will you do it?  Considering that these people are homeless meaning they might have no access with the computers and do not know maybe to use one.  Or in case, they have no idea what bitcoins is.  Probably you could just give a donation in terms of paper money and give it to them or make a charity.  Build an organization and get some donations. 
hero member
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I think this is a good way to make other people know bitcoin because even the homeless doesn't know about bitcoin then they can still learn it because they will might get curious if we will give them tips from paper wallets of bitcoin because they will ask us if what is the thing that we gave and how they can get the money then we should just teach them or just tell them to keep it for more years and it might give them huge amount of money in the future.
newbie
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I see that a very good nature deed and will help these people for the worth of the paper wallet bitcoin and can encourage someone to consider bitcoin again, it can help them to start a new life and a new vision of how it works.
hero member
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For me it is good for tipping the homeless people but please give them a real paper money or fiat and not bitcoin paper wallet because they can't used it or they just trow it away  Sad.
jr. member
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This is a nice idea for charity and maybe one or two media coverage stories, but IMO it doesn't change much. it would be a nice stunt but it would unlikely result in plenty of more users since people would just cashout the BTC.
Not that I'm against a bitcoin charity organization, people here might be even more willing to give BTC than USD in real life.
sr. member
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ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people
would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin?
would they learn it?
maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem

who wants to join me doing this

we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis


Giving homeless people BTC would be the dumbest thing any Bitcoin holder can do. If I saw a homeless person and want to help him or her, I would prefer to give them food and some used clothes, or maybe even a tent.
legendary
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I don't always have a stomach for first-world responses like these... my guess is if you wanted to help homeless people, you'd give them assistance in addressing their main problem: not having a home. Maybe once that's out of the way you can start with the crypto tipping. Or have I just gotten too old to understand hipster altruism?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people
would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin?
would they learn it?
maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem

who wants to join me doing this

we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis


Well I think if they don't have some proper knowledge or even education, the paper wallet will be just a waste and Bitcoin will be lost. What I'm trying to say is this people ( especially who grew up homeless, don't even go to school or don't even have an experience using the internet so I guess it's better to hand out some real money to them or ask them if they are good at programming or motivate them and show them how a paper wallet can turn into cash and tell him that if you learn programming you might be able to earn something like this, I bet that some of them is willing to learn if they really want to have a shelter.
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