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Quote from: bitcoinprofit on April 10, 2016, 03:50:07 PM

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Quote from: iigor on April 02, 2016, 10:19:20 AM

Woah 50%

Didnt see that at first.
25% max.

OK so two weeks seems to be the magic number.
TERMS & CONDITIONS
Duration: 2 WEEKS Minimum
Conditions:
At the end of the duration Profit must be achieved Positive ROI/UNITS
(more than what initially started with)
Bettor must place all returns from wining tips into a mutual wallet (escrow/third party wallet)
Bettor would select a single wager amount between .15 to 1 btc for each tip for the entire duration.

If conditions are met: Tipster gets paid at 1/4 minimum from the mutual wallet ("POT") where there returns have accumulated.

Missed this part before, but "selecting a single wager amount" is not a great idea. Not every bet has an equal chance of winning, so not every bet should be the same value. You would need to have limits to how much the bets could be (and watch them to avoid them from screwing you over about) but not allowing either side to bet more on a bet they feel better about is a bad idea, and not a good way to win money with betting.
Eventually i'd like to tests this out...

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Quote from: bitcoinprofit on April 02, 2016, 03:01:18 PM

Quote from: iigor on April 02, 2016, 10:19:20 AM

Woah 50%

Didnt see that at first.
25% max.

OK so two weeks seems to be the magic number.
TERMS & CONDITIONS
Duration: 2 WEEKS Minimum
Conditions:
At the end of the duration Profit must be achieved Positive ROI/UNITS
(more than what initially started with)
Bettor must place all returns from wining tips into a mutual wallet (escrow/third party wallet)
Bettor would select a single wager amount between .15 to 1 btc for each tip for the entire duration.

If conditions are met: Tipster gets paid at 1/4 minimum from the mutual wallet ("POT") where there returns have accumulated.

Eventually i'd like to tests this out...

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Quote from: bitcoinprofit on April 04, 2016, 08:33:24 PM

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Quote from: iigor on April 04, 2016, 07:51:45 AM

The only way i'd pay for tipster service is for tips to be with an odd 2.00 or higher and winrate 70% or higher.

That's a great idea.

No one will be able to meet those requirements so you won't waste any money.

and how is that possible there is no way to have a tip that perfect with odds higher than 2 and with 70% it can't happen in a dream XD.
he will not waste any money really no one can give him this tips.
try to be in the reality man :p

Oh but it is possible, and i will prove it.
Currently im on 50% winrate with odds over 2.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/free-daily-tips-with-odds-over-200-1406176

Wow this is nice...i like
Free TIps too??

Yes, free tips until i get steady 70% winrate.

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all are betting in different football league and nba so try something like this

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Quote from: Pab on April 03, 2016, 04:47:10 PM

It is much better to pay for tips if tips win
I have about 30% strike ratio on horses
but winers are between 4/1 to 25/1
horses are not easy game but sometimes very profitable

You are right, horses are actually the most difficult ones to be predicted amongst...
You really don't know whether you will see the least odds horse in the list of 1 - 3...
I have myself been a Horse-Racing tipster, and one thing is for sure, it involves a lot of risk when it comes to Horse-Racing, and according to me, it's the riskiest sport I have ever bet upon...

Horses are so hard to win at! its just so much built in
juice and profit for the track that all the exotics by math
standards are bad bets.

Pretty sure you would need inside info to win long term and if you have
that your not worried about a few bitcoins lol

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Quote from: iigor on April 04, 2016, 08:03:04 PM

Quote from: plost24 on April 04, 2016, 06:34:33 PM

Quote from: Phildo on April 04, 2016, 06:30:17 PM

Quote from: iigor on April 04, 2016, 07:51:45 AM

The only way i'd pay for tipster service is for tips to be with an odd 2.00 or higher and winrate 70% or higher.

That's a great idea.

No one will be able to meet those requirements so you won't waste any money.

and how is that possible there is no way to have a tip that perfect with odds higher than 2 and with 70% it can't happen in a dream XD.
he will not waste any money really no one can give him this tips.
try to be in the reality man :p

Oh but it is possible, and i will prove it.
Currently im on 50% winrate with odds over 2.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/free-daily-tips-with-odds-over-200-1406176

Wow this is nice...i like
Free TIps too??

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Quote from: plost24 on April 04, 2016, 06:34:33 PM

Quote from: Phildo on April 04, 2016, 06:30:17 PM

Quote from: iigor on April 04, 2016, 07:51:45 AM

The only way i'd pay for tipster service is for tips to be with an odd 2.00 or higher and winrate 70% or higher.

That's a great idea.

No one will be able to meet those requirements so you won't waste any money.

and how is that possible there is no way to have a tip that perfect with odds higher than 2 and with 70% it can't happen in a dream XD.
he will not waste any money really no one can give him this tips.
try to be in the reality man :p

Oh but it is possible, and i will prove it.
Currently im on 50% winrate with odds over 2.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/free-daily-tips-with-odds-over-200-1406176

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Quote from: gkv9 on April 03, 2016, 03:30:26 PM

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People that can make money by betting on sports make money by betting on sports.

I came up with a few ways to screw over the other person if I was the "tipster" in this situation without even trying.

Stop paying for picks.

i guess in the scenario i'm describing you aren't really paying for picks...its more like a bounty

Example I offer a small reward for anyone who can give positive returns at the end of 2 weeks they will have earned a cut if the condition is met.

As for the trickery you're talking about...i'm not sure any "paid" tipster on this forum would risk their trust or reputation in order to screw a guy over using bogus tips...

Paid tipsters don't have any trust or reputation. They are con men. If they were good at betting they would bet.

All this system does is allow them to bet risk free. If they are down early they can take bigger risks in hopes to get up, and then the bettor is forced to take bets form someone who probably sucks at betting and/or break the contract.

If they are up early they can do the same thing, hoping for a big score, and then complain that they didn't get paid enough when they gave instructions that would lead to being up x but the bettor didn't make all the bets.

If paid tipsters want to get paid for making good picks, they should bet.

All Tipsters are scammers??

Most are. If they were good at betting they would be making money betting instead of selling the picks.

I know as someone on the forum we are supposed to think that everything in the financial world outside of bitcoin is some foreign planet, but we can learn from their mistakes. Most of the people in the real world that sell picks are scammers/fraudsters, so most of the people that sell picks in bitcoinland are scammers/fraudsters.

In this scheme they are using your money to bet risk free. It would be filled with scammers and fraudsters.

It's very simple to prove that you are a legitimate "tipster." No one here does it because doing it will quickly show that they are not as good at betting as they believe.

Post all bets somewhere before games start, with proof of a bet hopefully.

Clearly list how much you are betting and when you made the bet.

Clearly keep track of your record, including wins and losses AND how much money you have won or lost, again preferably broken down by sport.

So the stats tipsters provide mean nothing!?!??

I have not seen a tipster provide ALL the relevant stats, so yes, they mean nothing. I don't pay much attention because every time I look it's not even close to being right.

Do you know one that posts all their picks before games start and keeps track of all their picks and how much money they've won or lost?

How many of them that do that pick games that are difficult to pick instead of just picking heavy favorites?

You can check my threads, I have been completely transparent being a tipster, never hidden a single bet and showed all of my results...
Many won, many lost, but I showed all of them, those too all were free...
Not all tipsters are scammers...

What is your record? How are you keeping track of money won/lost?

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Quote from: Phildo on April 04, 2016, 06:30:17 PM

Quote from: iigor on April 04, 2016, 07:51:45 AM

The only way i'd pay for tipster service is for tips to be with an odd 2.00 or higher and winrate 70% or higher.

That's a great idea.

No one will be able to meet those requirements so you won't waste any money.

and how is that possible there is no way to have a tip that perfect with odds higher than 2 and with 70% it can't happen in a dream XD.
he will not waste any money really no one can give him this tips.
try to be in the reality man :p

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Quote from: iigor on April 04, 2016, 07:51:45 AM

The only way i'd pay for tipster service is for tips to be with an odd 2.00 or higher and winrate 70% or higher.

That's a great idea.

No one will be able to meet those requirements so you won't waste any money.

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Quote from: Phildo on April 03, 2016, 10:50:29 AM

Most are. If they were good at betting they would be making money betting instead of selling the picks.

I guess, or maybe some of the legit guys here (like CarlosPuyol) don't have bankroll big enough to just profit from their own bets, that's why they're selling their "tips" to others. Can't think of other reason why would they do it. Or maybe they should speak for themselves

That doesn't make sense.

how can they not have a big bankroll if they are so good at betting?

Shouldn't they be able to build it up big?

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The only way i'd pay for tipster service is for tips to be with an odd 2.00 or higher and winrate 70% or higher.

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Well, problem is one year is too long of period, one month would be more suitable, or maybe even 1-2 weeks. But I also think people that bet that large probably don't need tipsters, i dunno maybe I'm wrong

I agree that a year is too long, but maybe one month would work out okay. I think this is actually a pretty good idea. I might actually be willing to pay for some tips if the tipster was held accountable through a system like this. They would have to put there money where their mouth is. They wouldn't get paid unless they were actually giving good tips.

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Quote from: Pab on April 03, 2016, 05:50:45 PM

You can try
2:40 WINCANTON Batavir
looks like best bet for tomorrow 5/1 6/1
dont be worry if odds wll rise but rather no
do not spend fortune if weather will change can be diffrent
Weather in UK is changing during the day very much

I won't try this...

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You can try
2:40 WINCANTON Batavir
looks like best bet for tomorrow 5/1 6/1
dont be worry if odds wll rise but rather no
do not spend fortune if weather will change can be diffrent
Weather in UK is changing during the day very much

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Very interesting but a year to wait? I think that's too long not everyone spends a year in crypto or even online you know?

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Quote from: Pab on April 03, 2016, 04:47:10 PM

It is much better to pay for tips if tips win
I have about 30% strike ratio on horses
but winers are between 4/1 to 25/1
horses are not easy game but sometimes very profitable

You are right, horses are actually the most difficult ones to be predicted amongst...
You really don't know whether you will see the least odds horse in the list of 1 - 3...
I have myself been a Horse-Racing tipster, and one thing is for sure, it involves a lot of risk when it comes to Horse-Racing, and according to me, it's the riskiest sport I have ever bet upon...

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Quote from: kingaltcoins on April 03, 2016, 03:11:37 PM

1 year is pretty long in my opinion. This idea may be applicable for at most a month. Nobody will wait for a year on this.

And paying half of the profits would be best for encouragement of tipsters. I guess www.Jetwin.ps is the right platform for that Wink

I don't think any gambler that makes big bets is going to listen to some random guy that has nothing to lose if the bet is a loss.
Don't you think that there would be people with 20 alts and different "tips" on each one, making one or more of them right most of the time, giving fake feeling of
security to people ? And the time period is just insane.. imho it's better to follow own instinct and knowledge when it comes to money.

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Quote from: Pab on April 03, 2016, 04:47:10 PM

It is much better to pay for tips if tips win
I have about 30% strike ratio on horses
but winers are between 4/1 to 25/1
horses are not easy game but sometimes very profitable

Horse racing, Soccer and Cricket are 3 games which is way too risky to bet.

Anything can happen at the very last moment. Until a special player takes makes a match one sided you cannot predict who will going to be the ultimate match winner.

But yes, they can be profitable if you start winning consecutively.

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It is much better to pay for tips if tips win
I have about 30% strike ratio on horses
but winers are between 4/1 to 25/1
horses are not easy game but sometimes very profitable

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