I do love that TMAN D.
I have no desire to be on DT. There is no intention of retaliatiory exclusion(s). All I am meaning to do is request an explanation to see if there could be something learned from the event. No offense has been taken, but I appreciate you giving me your side of things. Helps me to see things more clearly. Have a good one TMAN
Topic: TMAN's thread for bitching about my tags. (Read 840 times)
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You got that bit right, So I didn't even know who you are till someone mentioned you in a slack group (I haven't been that active in collectibles over the last few months due to ongoing projects) and I noticed that you had swallowed a thesaurus and had the annoying habit of posting 321 words when only 4 would suffice - now not saying you are a shitposting Pajeet - but it was pretty close to it. IIRC I called you out on it once, that was enough for me to think that you do not deserve to be on DT and it seems to me that some other members also think along those lines.
Now I am in a situation where you sent me a PM (and other members who had excluded you) and come in this thread acting like the fat bird I drunkenly shagged once and keep pestering me for more of the TMAN D, It has to be said you are a little creepy dude, coming across as FAR too keen to be on DT. That being said, its not as if I believe you are a scammer or that I am 100% correct in my judgement although threatening a retaliatory exclusion is rather pathetic, so ill reference the fat bird in a bar and tell you to go home and have a strum and I may come back to have a little action in the future, but please stop banging on about it.
Don't take it personally, chill out and lets see what happens.
It sounds suspiciously like you're trying to quietly gather information on how to get included on more people's trust lists. I don't believe I'm extremely paranoid; just slightly-above-averagely paranoid.
Nothing wrong with being a little more paranoid than average.
I’m the same way given the proper circumstance. I understand why you might perceive it that way. For what it is worth, that is not my intention. My goal is to hear some criticism of myself that I may be blind to so that I can make improvements. I respect the opinion of these people and we are a community. Excluding you from my trust list does not (necessarily) mean that I distrust you, or that I harbour any resentment or ill-will toward you. It simply means that I believe you are a sufficiently poor judge of character that your own trust list and feedback are meaningless to me, and therefore to be excluded. This is not a moral judgement, but a pragmatic one. Due to my aforementioned paranoia, I will not be more specific than that.
I’ll take that into consideration. Thanks for the clarification.
Approaching somebody to ask them why they distrust you in private, rather than making a song and dance about it is something you consider backdoor shenanigans? You either misinterpret the situation or are extremely paranoid.
It sounds suspiciously like you're trying to quietly gather information on how to get included on more people's trust lists. I don't believe I'm extremely paranoid; just slightly-above-averagely paranoid.I'm just wondering why someone I have never talked to or given any reason to distrust me would distrust me. It's not something I care about in any meaningful capacity, but I am interested in a reason if you'll provide one.
Excluding you from my trust list does not (necessarily) mean that I distrust you, or that I harbour any resentment or ill-will toward you. It simply means that I believe you are a sufficiently poor judge of character that your own trust list and feedback are meaningless to me, and therefore to be excluded. This is not a moral judgement, but a pragmatic one. Due to my aforementioned paranoia, I will not be more specific than that. 
Are you contacting your every inclusion and exclusion as you're doing them, and present them with specific reasons for these changes?
No, but if someone is interested in that I would be happy to discuss it. In fact, I recently have just added you suchmoon. Would you care for an explanation? It feels weird that I've been scrutinized multiple times for asking for an explanation regarding my exclusions. I can understand not trusting someone for various reasons, but explicit distrust of them would seem to have been provoked by an action of behavior of the individual.
It's all right, I think we've come to a conclusion in the other thread that we disagree on the significance of these actions
I don't approve of these backdoor shenanigans;
Approaching somebody to ask them why they distrust you in private, rather than making a song and dance about it is something you consider backdoor shenanigans? You either misinterpret the situation or are extremely paranoid.
Did you PM owlcatz too?
Yes. As far as I know there are only 3-people excluding me and I have asked each of them why that is. I'm much more curious about owlcatz and TMAN's exclusion of myself than I am about you; I have had positive interactions with both of them and have never even run into you. That comes with a different set of questions, but as far as I know you don't have your own thread regarding your trust/reputation/ratings, do you?
(And why do you even care about my exclusions anyway? I'm only DT2.)
I don't care about your DT status... I'm just wondering why someone I have never talked to or given any reason to distrust me would distrust me. It's not something I care about in any meaningful capacity, but I am interested in a reason if you'll provide one.
Are you contacting your every inclusion and exclusion as you're doing them, and present them with specific reasons for these changes?
No, but if someone is interested in that I would be happy to discuss it. In fact, I recently have just added you suchmoon. Would you care for an explanation? It feels weird that I've been scrutinized multiple times for asking for an explanation regarding my exclusions. I can understand not trusting someone for various reasons, but explicit distrust of them would seem to have been provoked by an action or behavior of the individual.
I have been updating it whenever I can think of a change to make; it has been difficult and is a work-in-progress. New information is always being presented/processed, and admittedly I can't keep track of all the dynamics around here.
I am always open to suggestions and new information. That's the purpose of me contacting TMAN for an explanation.
I am always open to suggestions and new information. That's the purpose of me contacting TMAN for an explanation.
Are you contacting your every inclusion and exclusion as you're doing them, and present them with specific reasons for these changes?
Am I allowed to use this thread to request information (bitch) about your exclusion of me from your trust list?
I for one would much prefer that you did, instead of doing so via PM, which in the interests of transparency I am going to post here:Hello foxpup, I've noticed you're excluding me from your trust-list and I'm wondering if you would be willing to provide me with an explanation? Thanks for your time either way, have a good one.
I don't approve of these backdoor shenanigans; they invite accusations of trust manipulation. Did you PM owlcatz too? (And why do you even care about my exclusions anyway? I'm only DT2.)
Maybe it has something to do with your trust list (this has caused exclusions and/or sent ratings). Have you reviewed it recently?
I have been updating it whenever I can think of a change to make; it has been difficult and is a work-in-progress. New information is always being presented/processed, and admittedly I can't keep track of all the dynamics around here.
I am always open to suggestions and new information. That's the purpose of me contacting TMAN for an explanation.
Am I allowed to use this thread to request information (bitch) about your exclusion of me from your trust list?
Maybe it has something to do with your trust list (this has caused exclusions and/or sent ratings). Have you reviewed it recently?
Am I allowed to use this thread to request information (bitch) about your exclusion of me from your trust list? Seems relevant to trust/reputation/tags. I am rather curious, because I was under the impression there was a mutual respect between us, which certainly doesn't mean I belong on your trust list, but surely it should carry some weight with my request for explanation. If this is a conversation you don't want to have here, I'll delete this post (or you can, self-modded 
) and accommodate that happily.
I'm not upset, and I wouldn't ask you to change it until I fully understand it and am sure I disagree. I'm always seeking to better myself, so in your opinion why should I be excluded from your trust network?
) and accommodate that happily. I'm not upset, and I wouldn't ask you to change it until I fully understand it and am sure I disagree. I'm always seeking to better myself, so in your opinion why should I be excluded from your trust network?
Rambotnic's rating looks weird to me. One negative and one positive, so the total should be zero I think. Yet it's showing as -1. Is it because of my own neutral?
-1 is the correct number. He gets -2 for his single negative feedback, and +1 for his single positive feedback. You can follow the calculation from theymos' code:You're right. The counter-rating only works if there were prior positives (or he needs two counters).
Rambotnic's rating looks weird to me. One negative and one positive, so the total should be zero I think. Yet it's showing as -1. Is it because of my own neutral?
-1 is the correct number. He gets -2 for his single negative feedback, and +1 for his single positive feedback. You can follow the calculation from theymos' code:I also completely changed the trust score algorithm to this:
Code:
if there are no negative ratings
score = 0
for each rating, oldest to newest
if this rater has already been counted
continue
score += min(10, round_up(months since rating))
else
score = unique_positive - 2^(unique_negative)
if score >= 0
start_time = time of first negative
score = unique_positive since start_time - unique_negative since start_time
if(score < 0)
return ??? (orange)
move score to range [-9999,9999]
return score
score = 0
for each rating, oldest to newest
if this rater has already been counted
continue
score += min(10, round_up(months since rating))
else
score = unique_positive - 2^(unique_negative)
if score >= 0
start_time = time of first negative
score = unique_positive since start_time - unique_negative since start_time
if(score < 0)
return ??? (orange)
move score to range [-9999,9999]
return score
I usually just try to exchange my crypto to fiat and don't intend to store much of it on a single address and private keys.
I'm just not buying that I'm afraid. The address quoted above "you" used for a period of several months, and if you look at "your" post history, made several trades and sent bitcoin to several other forum users. You certainly didn't exchange it all to fiat as you are claiming. Still, there other two other addresses used in 2014 by that account - if you can sign from any of them your red trust will disappear.1JywwXphRygZ42KPvP7qtQYccXM2L8hpTu
1JmTGwncb1uUZ9xP5SK8zni4wKxgU56M7B
1CaaSJtbAJ7jBaHTpUyKDUcHs4bwHUSXbe
Rambotnic's rating looks weird to me. One negative and one positive, so the total should be zero I think. Yet it's showing as -1. Is it because of my own neutral?
JFC... this is not kindergarten, have some dignity.
I have dignity, the same allow me to accept my mistakes, apologize and move on.Don't forget who start it And for sure that wasn't me.
And for sure that wasn't me.JFC... this is not kindergarten, have some dignity.
This is going well.
1st day... might get better for those who are tagged. In all likelihood not though, Figure these people need a chance to air any issues with me and better here than a shit ton of threads
Absolutely agree with your logic.
I'm not taking advantage of my shiny new DT status to post one liners,
There's a lot of energy floating around at the mo as people suss the new Status Quo and I think it's important that people don't get too mouth frothy.
It's only a game, after all. (No exclusions pls for comparing DT to a game. I was referring to something far less important: life.)
Edit: Hahaha, I don't know whether you gave me that merit for the right reasons...
Rambotnic's rating looks weird to me. One negative and one positive, so the total should be zero I think. Yet it's showing as -1. Is it because of my own neutral?
JFC... this is not kindergarten, have some dignity.
Don't forget who start it And for sure that wasn't me.
And for sure that wasn't me.JFC... this is not kindergarten, have some dignity.
This is going well.
1st day... might get better for those who are tagged. In all likelihood not though, Figure these people need a chance to air any issues with me and better here than a shit ton of threads
This is going well.
I will try to keep it short same as my pm to you.
Your negative feedback in my profile was in the same time as Lauda's and owlcatz and i believe because of their words.
After conversation with them, they removed the negative feedback from my profile.
But let's keep it straight.
I know its not the right thing to post but i will give it a try.
I know we had quarrels but that's why people communicate and they have different view point, to not agree with each other.
You said bad things about me which in most cases were not right, and i said things about you which in most cases were not right.
Depends on the view point both of us were not right.
People should respect each other and be good instead of bad, because being a bad is always the most easy way.
I am here to tell you that i removed the negative feedback from your profile, no matter it means nothing to you.
I am human and i do realize my mistakes which i will not repeat in future.
People do deserve their second chance and im giving you mine no matter you care about it or no.
Also i would like to say i am sorry for going to far with the quarrels and that was not the right way.
If you like to remove the negative feedback from my profile, feel free to, i do not force you, but i believe we all do deserve second chance.
People should leave some negative things in the past and move forward for better.
Do whatever you wish to do, just know that i feel sorry for saying and doing things which i may not be totally right about you.
Now my conscience is clean.
If you want to do the same, feel free to, if not, thanks for reading this useless spam.
Your negative feedback in my profile was in the same time as Lauda's and owlcatz and i believe because of their words.
After conversation with them, they removed the negative feedback from my profile.
But let's keep it straight.
I know its not the right thing to post but i will give it a try.
I know we had quarrels but that's why people communicate and they have different view point, to not agree with each other.
You said bad things about me which in most cases were not right, and i said things about you which in most cases were not right.
Depends on the view point both of us were not right.
People should respect each other and be good instead of bad, because being a bad is always the most easy way.
I am here to tell you that i removed the negative feedback from your profile, no matter it means nothing to you.
I am human and i do realize my mistakes which i will not repeat in future.
People do deserve their second chance and im giving you mine no matter you care about it or no.
Also i would like to say i am sorry for going to far with the quarrels and that was not the right way.
If you like to remove the negative feedback from my profile, feel free to, i do not force you, but i believe we all do deserve second chance.
People should leave some negative things in the past and move forward for better.
Do whatever you wish to do, just know that i feel sorry for saying and doing things which i may not be totally right about you.
Now my conscience is clean.
If you want to do the same, feel free to, if not, thanks for reading this useless spam.
You threatened me in PM with bodily harm etc etc mr keyboard warrior “I am the real police” do you want me to post them all? Your conscience shouldn’t be clean you are an evil little man
I said what i wanted to say.
I don't decline saying what i pmed you.
It was over react against your words and actions.
Don't forget who start it
And for sure that wasn't me. I will try to keep it short same as my pm to you.
Your negative feedback in my profile was in the same time as Lauda's and owlcatz and i believe because of their words.
After conversation with them, they removed the negative feedback from my profile.
But let's keep it straight.
I know its not the right thing to post but i will give it a try.
I know we had quarrels but that's why people communicate and they have different view point, to not agree with each other.
You said bad things about me which in most cases were not right, and i said things about you which in most cases were not right.
Depends on the view point both of us were not right.
People should respect each other and be good instead of bad, because being a bad is always the most easy way.
I am here to tell you that i removed the negative feedback from your profile, no matter it means nothing to you.
I am human and i do realize my mistakes which i will not repeat in future.
People do deserve their second chance and im giving you mine no matter you care about it or no.
Also i would like to say i am sorry for going to far with the quarrels and that was not the right way.
If you like to remove the negative feedback from my profile, feel free to, i do not force you, but i believe we all do deserve second chance.
People should leave some negative things in the past and move forward for better.
Do whatever you wish to do, just know that i feel sorry for saying and doing things which i may not be totally right about you.
Now my conscience is clean.
If you want to do the same, feel free to, if not, thanks for reading this useless spam.
Your negative feedback in my profile was in the same time as Lauda's and owlcatz and i believe because of their words.
After conversation with them, they removed the negative feedback from my profile.
But let's keep it straight.
I know its not the right thing to post but i will give it a try.
I know we had quarrels but that's why people communicate and they have different view point, to not agree with each other.
You said bad things about me which in most cases were not right, and i said things about you which in most cases were not right.
Depends on the view point both of us were not right.
People should respect each other and be good instead of bad, because being a bad is always the most easy way.
I am here to tell you that i removed the negative feedback from your profile, no matter it means nothing to you.
I am human and i do realize my mistakes which i will not repeat in future.
People do deserve their second chance and im giving you mine no matter you care about it or no.
Also i would like to say i am sorry for going to far with the quarrels and that was not the right way.
If you like to remove the negative feedback from my profile, feel free to, i do not force you, but i believe we all do deserve second chance.
People should leave some negative things in the past and move forward for better.
Do whatever you wish to do, just know that i feel sorry for saying and doing things which i may not be totally right about you.
Now my conscience is clean.
If you want to do the same, feel free to, if not, thanks for reading this useless spam.
You threatened me in PM with bodily harm etc etc mr keyboard warrior “I am the real police” do you want me to post them all? Your conscience shouldn’t be clean you are an evil little man
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