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Quote from: JollyGood on July 09, 2020, 03:47:15 AM

And to think I actually removed you from my IGNORE list to give you a chance of engaging with you. You are added to my IGNORE list again alongside your local language board buddies Roll Eyes

Beyond that, I cannot waste any time posting to an ignorant attention-seeker such as you.

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Quote from: JollyGood on July 09, 2020, 01:42:27 AM

Thank you for the comments, you are right. I think when it comes down to leaving any comments related to any group associated with these attention-seeking members I will not be leaving generic feedback in future. I will be far more specific.

Ah, veiled threats of negative ratings for anyone who dares criticize you. Another great example of why you belong nowhere near the DT.

Oh no! Don't ignore me! That truly is the greatest punishment of all! To give you a chance of engaging with you? What? You have as much of a chance of having a legitimate debate as a lamp post. You are only here to serve yourself and to wash the balls of your overlords.

Quote from: BitcoinTurk on July 09, 2020, 03:54:05 PM

Thank you very much for your support message, unfortunately I did not get the support I expected from other DT members, and the person did not change or delete the feedback they sent. I hope he finds his way to justice and withdraws his unfair feedback that he has sent me. Such racist behavior is not true at all.

I see this claim of racism over and over again. I know the Turks are a very nationalistic people, but the accusations of racism are not true. These people treat everyone who does not think and act like them as the outsider, so it is easily confused for racism. I highly suggest that if the Turkish community wishes to make progress and inroads into the trust system, they make it known among their members that these claims of racism are not only untrue, but counterproductive to exposing their legitimate grievances. These claims of racism not only appear frivolous as it makes it very easy to use this to dismiss claims of abuse. As most of the current DT users are in the US and Europe, and right now claims of racism are being abused constantly to acheive political goals, it makes such claims appear as a joke. You should make it known among your community that these claims of racism only serve to get your grievances ignored and laughed at.

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Quote from: Vod on July 08, 2020, 03:27:37 PM

Quote from: BitcoinTurk on July 08, 2020, 09:11:21 AM

He said that he would definitely not step back and remove this feedback he had sent unfairly.

I haven't followed this too closely, but I doubt Jolly would say that. Why would consider trust he left as unfair?

I claim that the feedback that the person has created is unfair because he sent me this feedback even though I was not guilty.

So JollyGood did not say he sent the feedback unfairly. That was misleading, and a tactic used by scammers. Thank you for clarifying.

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Quote from: BitcoinTurk on July 09, 2020, 03:54:05 PM

~snip~

Thank you very much for your support message, unfortunately I did not get the support I expected from other DT members, and the person did not change or delete the feedback they sent. I hope he finds his way to justice and withdraws his unfair feedback that he has sent me. Such racist behavior is not true at all.

Another attention-seeker from a local language board that claims racism in the same way that Vispilio and several others have claimed. All of these users should be ashamed of themselves for playing the race card as and when it suits their agenda.

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Quote from: BitcoinTurk on July 08, 2020, 09:11:21 AM

I am waiting for the support of all other DT members if there is a negative answer. I am someone who has done a lot of work in our local forum and has helped many people by producing their own content. I think I do not deserve this negative notification sent for such manipulative and invalid reasons.

It's the same feedback I see that was left for the OP.
I will say this is another invalid feedback and Jolly needs to change it. It's not good to hear about the same case again and again against a user.

He's not removed my negative feedback yet, i need a help from another DT members. It's invalid and he said that he will not remove this feedback. The person uses his trust in the trust system for bad purposes and displays racist behavior.

Quote from: Vod on July 08, 2020, 03:27:37 PM

Quote from: BitcoinTurk on July 08, 2020, 09:11:21 AM

He said that he would definitely not step back and remove this feedback he had sent unfairly.

I haven't followed this too closely, but I doubt Jolly would say that. Why would consider trust he left as unfair?

I claim that the feedback that the person has created is unfair because he sent me this feedback even though I was not guilty. I also ask him to prove all the situation he mentioned in the feedback.

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Quote from: BitcoinTurk on July 08, 2020, 09:11:21 AM

Unfortunately, I have the same problem as well, although I did not deserve the mentioned person applied me a red trust feedback. As the aforementioned person claims, I am not part of a trolled community, I have never done merit begging or trading, and I have never done anything that would shake the "Trust" system.

Last night, I sent a private message to the member @JollyGood about this incident and asked him to remove this negative feedback he had applied to me. He said that he would definitely not step back and remove this feedback he had sent unfairly. He also said that when I create a topic about this situation, other DT members will also send a red trust statement to me. I want to ask him one more time from here.

Could you please remove this red trust?

I am waiting for the support of all other DT members if there is a negative answer. I am someone who has done a lot of work in our local forum and has helped many people by producing their own content. I think I do not deserve this negative notification sent for such manipulative and invalid reasons.

Another case that shows that @JollyGood is unreliable. His acts just like Lauda.
He gives unfair negative. He approaches Turks with disgust. Threats with private message.

I am calling out to fair members who are truly conscientious. He is constantly doing injustice. I suggest you delete his from your Trust list.

Also: ~JollyGood

Thank you very much for your support message, unfortunately I did not get the support I expected from other DT members, and the person did not change or delete the feedback they sent. I hope he finds his way to justice and withdraws his unfair feedback that he has sent me. Such racist behavior is not true at all.

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Thank you for your feedback. In a nutshell, there is far more going on here for those who manage to read between the lines. Several users from the Turkish language board along with several buddies going all-out to attack me just like they attacked other users with protagonists such as scammer Vispilio playing key roles.

Should DT and Merit Source Members Be Promoting A Known Scam?: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/should-dt-and-merit-source-members-be-promoting-a-known-scam-5219538

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Quote from: JollyGood on July 06, 2020, 09:53:28 AM

Yes Loyce, you are well aware I respect and trust you and a couple of users in the forum. One of them sent me a PM asking me to reconsider the original feedback which I said I would.

Glad to see some level-headed decision-making.

There may be hope yet for the forum.

Quote from: Kalemder on July 06, 2020, 09:52:49 AM

If his was a normal user, we would just ignore it. But he has DT1 power. I condemn anyone who has a weak judiciary, an injustice, and supports a cruel member. I call out to the members who added it to the list.

Those are a lot of buzzwords you're tossing around. As an aside, I think it's important for all users to leave accurate feedback because conditioning users to adopt the DefaultTrust network as a centralized trust list is the opposite of what we should do. ALL users should be leaving neutral and negative feedback accordingly, and though the impact of individual feedback has been lessened due to the trust changes over the years, I would still advocate for seldom use of the positive feedback feature.

I don't like to use ad-hominem attacks either, but is there any specific reason you're seeking out this apparent vendetta? Apart from getting a negative for the whole "sending merit to yourself" thing.

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Quote from: JollyGood on July 09, 2020, 01:42:27 AM

Vispilio is a compulsive liar and a fantasist ...

Quote from: suchmoon on July 08, 2020, 11:29:05 PM

Nonsense. Most kids beyond age 10 typically have already figured out that "but Jimmy did it too" doesn't let them off the hook.

This thread has all the proof one needs to demonstrate to the admin that they need to interfere and revamp the whole DT system if they want to save the greatly damaged Bitcointalk.

A cursory glance at the writings of most of these "deeply entrenched" DT1 cultists should be enough to convince any unbiased observer that their discourse and reasoning skills are worse than your average high school debates club,

and the vast majority of Bitcointalk community seems incapable of voting qualified people into positions of authority; they only know how to elect their nepotist friends with politically correct and familiar voices...

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And to think I actually removed you from my IGNORE list to give you a chance of engaging with you. You are added to my IGNORE list again alongside your local language board buddies Roll Eyes

Beyond that, I cannot waste any time posting to an ignorant attention-seeker such as you.

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Quote from: JollyGood on July 09, 2020, 01:42:27 AM

Thank you for the comments, you are right. I think when it comes down to leaving any comments related to any group associated with these attention-seeking members I will not be leaving generic feedback in future. I will be far more specific.

Ah, veiled threats of negative ratings for anyone who dares criticize you. Another great example of why you belong nowhere near the DT.

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Quote from: BitcoinTurk on July 08, 2020, 09:11:21 AM

Unfortunately, I have the same problem as well, although I did not deserve the mentioned person applied me a red trust feedback. As the aforementioned person claims, I am not part of a trolled community, I have never done merit begging or trading, and I have never done anything that would shake the "Trust" system.

Last night, I sent a private message to the member @JollyGood about this incident and asked him to remove this negative feedback he had applied to me. He said that he would definitely not step back and remove this feedback he had sent unfairly. He also said that when I create a topic about this situation, other DT members will also send a red trust statement to me. I want to ask him one more time from here.

Could you please remove this red trust?

I am waiting for the support of all other DT members if there is a negative answer. I am someone who has done a lot of work in our local forum and has helped many people by producing their own content. I think I do not deserve this negative notification sent for such manipulative and invalid reasons.

Another case that shows that @JollyGood is unreliable. His acts just like Lauda.
He gives unfair negative. He approaches Turks with disgust. Threats with private message.

I am calling out to fair members who are truly conscientious. He is constantly doing injustice. I suggest you delete his from your Trust list.

Also: ~JollyGood

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Quote from: JollyGood on July 09, 2020, 01:42:27 AM

Thank you for the comments, you are right. I think when it comes down to leaving any comments related to any group associated with these attention-seeking members I will not be leaving generic feedback in future. I will be far more specific.

Ah, veiled threats of negative ratings for anyone who dares criticize you. Another great example of why you belong nowhere near the DT.

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Quote from: SiNeReiNZzz on July 08, 2020, 04:37:07 PM

I have JollyGood on my trust list for reasons not like that.
And this here would be no reason for me to delete him.

I don't care of someone is accused from others for things that can be easily clarified with each other, as long as no one is cheated out of their money or otherwise sustains damage.
May sound selfish, but I would not do anything else all day long but read soap operas here

~snip~

Very kind of you SiNeReiNZzz, thank you for your comments. The soap opera daily serial between a few members of the local language board is not showing any signs of slowing down and has actually picked up in recent days. They are a bunch of attention-seeking wannabes that have posted in global boards while claiming to be representatives of their local language board when that could not be further from the truth.

Quote from: examplens on July 08, 2020, 04:54:04 PM

after Lauda was pushed aside, it seems the next target is @JollyGood. it all seems to me like an already seen witch-hunting scenario.

They have me on their radar but I will not be buckling under their persistent attacks. I am surprised a few more threads were not created to attack me by those out to attention-seek

Quote from: suchmoon on July 08, 2020, 09:13:00 PM

Quote from: examplens on July 08, 2020, 04:54:04 PM

after Lauda was pushed aside, it seems the next target is @JollyGood. it all seems to me like an already seen witch-hunting scenario.

Witch hunt or not - red trust for trolling, propaganda, etc doesn't seem reasonable. Ironically those kinds of accusations are thrown around by Vispilio et al against users they dislike so it's a bit of a pot-kettle situation going on here.

Some of the red-trusted users have been shown to exchange trust and merits between sockpuppets so that's fair game but it would make more sense to have properly worded ratings for those cases instead of copy pasta that makes it look like all of them are the same.

Thank you for the comments, you are right. I think when it comes down to leaving any comments related to any group associated with these attention-seeking members I will not be leaving generic feedback in future. I will be far more specific.

Quote from: suchmoon on July 08, 2020, 10:57:29 PM

Quote from: Vispilio on July 08, 2020, 10:43:10 PM

I'm the only one who currently has red trust out of maybe hundreds of members who promoted Yobit,

Besides being a useless fallacy (all or nothing is not a prerequisite for trust ratings), it's also a lie. wolwoo got one too as did some other Yobit scam deniers.

Vispilio is a compulsive liar and a fantasist who dreams of being a bit crypto trader yet was slandering the CM campaign after his long campaign to be selected for it was rebuffed. The list of his conduct within the forum goes on and be easily verified and engaging with him is more or less a time wasting exercise.

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Quote from: hacker1001101001 on July 08, 2020, 09:54:03 PM

There are people shouting abuse, financially and emotionally suffering from it and trying to prove it, at the same time you crawl with it being an witch hunt.

Do you want to work with me in helping liberate a few thousand bitcoins? We could certainly spread that around to the suffering people who have contributed to bitcoin.

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Quote from: Vispilio on July 08, 2020, 11:15:58 PM

for your personal education it IS a prerequisite for all universal laws of morality and ethics, only a bloodsucking cultist would be more interested

Nonsense. Most kids beyond age 10 typically have already figured out that "but Jimmy did it too" doesn't let them off the hook.

I'm guessing that ponzi schemes are allowed under your "universal laws of morality and ethics".

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 08, 2020, 10:57:29 PM

Quote from: Vispilio on July 08, 2020, 10:43:10 PM

I'm the only one who currently has red trust out of maybe hundreds of members who promoted Yobit,

Besides being a useless fallacy (all or nothing is not a prerequisite for trust ratings), it's also a lie. wolwoo got one too as did some other Yobit scam deniers.

for your personal education it IS a prerequisite for all universal laws of morality and ethics, only a bloodsucking cultist would be more interested

in keeping her corrupt DT game intact to the exclusion of all rational discourse... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Vispilio on July 08, 2020, 10:43:10 PM

I'm the only one who currently has red trust out of maybe hundreds of members who promoted Yobit,

Besides being a useless fallacy (all or nothing is not a prerequisite for trust ratings), it's also a lie. wolwoo got one too as did some other Yobit scam deniers.

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I warned in January that Jollygood's methodology of tagging people for guilt via association over Yobit was not only an unfair standard, but going to lead to even more abuse as this justification of mass tagging people is further widened. Yet, here we are 7 months later, and Jollygood is ranked higher within the trust system as his shotgun style abusive ratings continue to expand. This is yet another case of a forum cop building his reputation by stomping all over other users with minimal pretext to give themselves the reputation of being a "scambuster" for personal gain. Because none of you take any action against this kind of behavior with exclusions, of course it only continues and grows to become more common. This is yet another example of why the trust system here will remain to be a joke.

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 08, 2020, 10:32:08 PM

Quote from: Vispilio on July 08, 2020, 10:16:37 PM

Also while the topic is hot, I have to point out here that ~jollygood ninja also left me the granddaddy of all ridiculous feedbacks around the beginning of this year (depicted below from his trust page)...

That rating is factual and supported by the reference so there is nothing particularly wrong with it. If you don't like it that doesn't make it invalid. On the other hand your retaliatory rating about "deficient morals" doesn't make much sense.

you are clearly incapable of an iota of rationality suchmoon, and frankly far more harmful than jolly ninja to this forum.

I'm the only one who currently has red trust out of maybe hundreds of members who promoted Yobit,

where is the red trust of all the other participants including the campaign manager (who did an excellent job by the way), doesn't the stench of #doublestandards and #hypocrisy disgust everyone here ?..

It's all so petty and corrupt, I don't even give a fuck actually, you should know that you and a few of your corrupt cultist friends are an embarrassment to the legacy of Bitcoin with your insane nepotism and total lack of morals... Get well.

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Quote from: Vispilio on July 08, 2020, 10:16:37 PM

Also while the topic is hot, I have to point out here that ~jollygood ninja also left me the granddaddy of all ridiculous feedbacks around the beginning of this year (depicted below from his trust page)...

That rating is factual and supported by the reference so there is nothing particularly wrong with it. If you don't like it that doesn't make it invalid. On the other hand your retaliatory rating about "deficient morals" doesn't make much sense.

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Also while the topic is hot, I have to point out here that ~jollygood ninja also left me the granddaddy of all ridiculous feedbacks around the beginning of this year (depicted below from his trust page)...

his childish reasoning to the tune of "Vispilio carried a Yobit banner and yet has admitted that Yobit also lists a shitcoin of its own" is so unbearably stupid that I'll go douse my fingers in alcohol after having to type its pettiness...

Everyone who has made the horrendous mistake of including jollygood in their trust list should reconsider their decisions, the ninja has a batting average of about 10% in getting these feedbacks right, and it's an insult to both the Bitcointalk community and Trust System to have the likes of him represented as DT1.

Keeping a trigger happy troll on any layer of DT is a sure way to turn the already shunned forum into an even more desolate ghost town, beware:

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Quote from: examplens on July 08, 2020, 04:54:04 PM

after Lauda was pushed aside, it seems the next target is @JollyGood. it all seems to me like an already seen witch-hunting scenario.

This clearly show's your biased judgement over various other situations in the past and even your trust list. There are people shouting abuse, financially and emotionally suffering from it and trying to prove it, at the same time you crawl with it being an witch hunt. Looks like a cancer overall.

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Quote from: examplens on July 08, 2020, 04:54:04 PM

after Lauda was pushed aside, it seems the next target is @JollyGood. it all seems to me like an already seen witch-hunting scenario.

Witch hunt or not - red trust for trolling, propaganda, etc doesn't seem reasonable. Ironically those kinds of accusations are thrown around by Vispilio et al against users they dislike so it's a bit of a pot-kettle situation going on here.

Some of the red-trusted users have been shown to exchange trust and merits between sockpuppets so that's fair game but it would make more sense to have properly worded ratings for those cases instead of copy pasta that makes it look like all of them are the same.

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