To bust Casino? Blackjack, myths and reality - page 2.

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Quote from: burenka on May 19, 2019, 12:06:35 AM

So, the conclusion here is “there are no long-term winning strategies out there”. No matter “common” or “individual”. But with a certain approach, good mathematical skills plus some experience, bankroll availability, discipline, as well as reasonable RoR acceptance and awareness of your own risks could be considered as a reasonable background and may evolve into a kind of hobby later. That being said, “Researching” might be a way to entertain yourself , but never the method of long-term guaranteed income.

It takes so much time reading everything... So to sum things up, what yoi want to say is that there's no long term strategies to win...

First, gambling itself is not really good for long term. It's just for entertainment... Different strategies may work when you're playing but it does not guarantee winning at all time. Athough you put much strategy on playing, luck was also always there. Meaning that strategies are not enough for you to win, good analytical skill and a bit of luck is also needed.

PS. You should've also summarized your content by making it concise 'cause not everyone will give time reading everything.

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Quote from: davis196 on May 19, 2019, 12:15:30 AM

Why the hell are you writing (or copy pasting) such a long thread?
Nobody is going to read that novel. Grin

We all know that it's almost impossible to cheat a casino and it's 100% impossible to create the ultimate winning gambling strategy.Gambling is not about making money,it's about spending money(that you can afford to lose) for fun.

If there is anything interesting it is worth reading, no matter how long the article is. Gambling is an expensive game which give happiness to few people only.

But that few people who’s being happy in gambling won’t spend time reading a novel 😂

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No matter what you try, you can beat the casino. Even if you cheat the casino, they will held your withdrawal for inspection.

Maybe what you meant is “You Can’t Beat the Casino”?

Casino is designed to bag money and not to give away,so if you think at some point people are winning in casinos?yeah that’s indeed but only 1-5% of 100 are winning and the rest is helping the casino owner become more richer

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I didn't bother to read through the entire wall of text but yes, blackjack has been broken before by a group from MIT. It's not simple though since you need to walk into a casino rigged with wires that you'd use to transmit signals to your card-counting accomplices outside. You'd need a team for this.

Needless to say, casinos caught up to this and they'd immediately throw you out if they discovered you doing this and you get added to a database of "undesirables" that is shared among casinos. (Yes, they even hire detectives to help compile this.)

Just give up thinking you can easily make the house go bust. The house always win in the end.

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Well i don't think busting the casino is possible since all of their games have house edge that makes beating it impossible and the fact gambling is a game of chance so, you will win and lose too and sometimes in casinos if you are winning consecutively, the chances to getting a win are getting lower and lower as you win so, in long run you will lose and lose until you r bankroll reach to zero so, don't even try busting the casino. just withdraw your winnings and don't tempt to gamble again you will lose all of your winnings and deposit at the end the day.

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It's usually not possible to completely bust a casino unless you are operating several accounts at once and get extremely lucky. Most online casinos will have a maximum bet and/or win amount which essentially protects the bankroll, preventing it from falling too low to sustain the other play sessions.

In order to actually bankrupt a casino, you would need to be running probably dozens of accounts at once and beat the house edge with a large bet on all of these accounts. The feasibility of this is quite low, so most platforms aren't concerned with this. Alternatively, you could get an extremely lucky run with a series of high value bets, and completely tank the bankroll.

I imagine you would get banned before you bankrupt the casino though, that's bad business.

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Personally, I don't see any secret. If you are already on the positive side, just quit and take the money with you. There's no sense to chase more money because it will simply back fire on your end.

I've experienced a lot of this when I started early on my gambling journey. That's why when I see that I have good profit already, I call it a day, easy as that. The problem is that people tend to be greedy and not satisfied with their winnings. Just remember that the longer you play the changes of you losing multiply.

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Quote from: traderethereum on May 19, 2019, 09:09:23 AM

It is possible to win in the casino but never tries to cheat the casino because if you do that, you will be kicked out by the security and they will ban you from coming to their casino.
Many people still trying to win in the gambling games but only a few people who can win with big money.
The most important to win in any gambling game is have luck, and without luck, you will only lose your money.

But gambling is entertainment, not a way to earn money, but it’s also relative, for example, professional poker players earn more than just play

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Quote from: raatnak on September 06, 2019, 09:27:46 AM

Come on.. Sometimes it’s interesting to read something like that, with a cup of coffee after work.
There will definitely be those who will be interested.

Maybe agree with you Grin

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Nothing wrong with some good advice, though crediting a source is a good idea also. I've always liked playing Blackjack even if I'm not that great at it, some material to revise close to hand gets a thumbs up from me. I'm a fast reader so its not that big a deal to skim through.
If its true that most places now shuffle 8 decks and dont play through all cards then I guess the chances of card counting ever working is slim to none; not that this was my strategy anyway but its useful to know rather then wasting any time trying whats already known. This is going to be unfortunate for some who will have to stick to the bricks and mortar operations I guess.

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bringing them down is next to impossible

They wouldnt be there if I could I expect to do so, its a nicely assured business I would guess everyone already knows that by now. I'd rather just enjoy the game and if a few tips help me avoid common mistakes then its worth the quick read for any mistake I might be making normally.

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Quote from: Whosdaddy on May 22, 2019, 01:46:23 AM

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Come on.. Sometimes it’s interesting to read something like that, with a cup of coffee after work.
There will definitely be those who will be interested.

Yes, that is interesting to read those articles, but I am too lazy for now, maybe next time Grin

But thank you for the article.

The victory will be on the house side. We, as gamblers have 2 options which are winning or losing the money. We can win the blackjack or another gambling game, but that will only if we have luck. But all in all, only the casino will take the biggest money from the gambling industry, and we are losing the money if we don't stop when we lose. That is the point of playing gambling.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on September 06, 2019, 02:36:00 PM

Quote from: swogerino on September 04, 2019, 09:30:22 AM

The fact that many myths exist is because in game of skills or where just a little bit of skill is involved many different people think they have found a way of how to beat the casino.

The fac is just like the conclusion here which is no one can beat the casinos as they are designed to make money to the owners but not to the players.

Absolutely true! Casinos are one of the few businesses that has sure profit every month.
And as this article concluded - profits in this industry are "much higher than any other industry" in US alone.

https://www.finance-monthly.com/2019/03/heres-how-casinos-make-money/

So even if there are myths, strategies and whatever you called the schemes to beat the house, still the chance of bringing them down is next to impossible.

Just like i said before gambling is designed for the house only and it is not for the gamblers. This is how the gambling industry works by giving a slight chance of their potential gamblers to play using the provably fair but in the long run the house will always reign the victory.

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Quote from: peter0425 on September 04, 2019, 09:07:09 AM

Quote from: milewilda on May 21, 2019, 08:35:04 PM

I highly agree with this conclusion stated on OP;

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"So, the conclusion here is “there are no long-term winning strategies out there”. No matter “common” or “individual”. But with a certain approach, good mathematical skills plus some experience, bankroll availability, discipline, as well as reasonable RoR acceptance and awareness of your own risks could be considered as a reasonable background and may evolve into a kind of hobby later. That being said, “Researching” might be a way to entertain yourself , but never the method of long-term guaranteed income. "

This should really be put up always on our mind that theres no long term strategies that would work.

Agree as well here ,because our strategy won’t last long because the game designed will surely interfere in what we re doing and will make necessary move to prevent us from winning so fo short time yes it will functional but will stop in a certain time

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Unless if you are doing
skill based games then you might really have that edge due to experience and skills enhanced.

Well skill can be used but luck must be go together because if not then all will end up losing

I do agree to this one though and come to think even on the simplest decision in life do really need some sort or mix of luck for us to succeed or benefit us out and having this kind of mentality like being greedy with gambling will only lead into a miserable life.

Quote from: TimeTeller on September 06, 2019, 02:36:00 PM

So even if there are myths, strategies and whatever you called the schemes to beat the house, still the chance of bringing them down is next to impossible.

Those would really just remain myths because these werent possible in gambling no matter what.We know on how big the gambling industry is.
So it basically means its a profitable business and the reason? Because of those gamblers who do like to get rich by means of playing and to those greedy ones.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 04, 2019, 09:30:22 AM

The fact that many myths exist is because in game of skills or where just a little bit of skill is involved many different people think they have found a way of how to beat the casino.

The fac is just like the conclusion here which is no one can beat the casinos as they are designed to make money to the owners but not to the players.

Absolutely true! Casinos are one of the few businesses that has sure profit every month.
And as this article concluded - profits in this industry are "much higher than any other industry" in US alone.

https://www.finance-monthly.com/2019/03/heres-how-casinos-make-money/

So even if there are myths, strategies and whatever you called the schemes to beat the house, still the chance of bringing them down is next to impossible.

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Quote from: Whosdaddy on May 22, 2019, 01:46:23 AM

I really don't get some people I see in this forum, like seriously. Please did you just take out time to be writing all these or you just copied and pasted it from a site even without you yourself knowing anything about it? How can you be posting as long as this in a forum, do you even need an answer for this? Cause nobody here is ready to sit and read all these things you have written here, no one has that kind of time. You should have summarized everything and make it short so that we will all understand it. Damn meehn. I couldn't even read it cause it was very long, and I had to scroll to the comments to see if anyone has summarized it.

Come on.. Sometimes it’s interesting to read something like that, with a cup of coffee after work.
There will definitely be those who will be interested.

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Blackjack is typically the casino game with the best possible odds if you stick to basic strategy at all times. You will still end up losing if you play long enough, that is just how profitability works. There is no surefire way to beat the casino unless you use an exploit.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 04, 2019, 09:30:22 AM

The fact that many myths exist is because in game of skills or where just a little bit of skill is involved many different people think they have found a way of how to beat the casino.

The fac is just like the conclusion here which is no one can beat the casinos as they are designed to make money to the owners but not to the players.

But people still play and the majority (I hope ...) understand that this is just entertainment, and not a way to "Earn Money"

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The fact that many myths exist is because in game of skills or where just a little bit of skill is involved many different people think they have found a way of how to beat the casino.

The fac is just like the conclusion here which is no one can beat the casinos as they are designed to make money to the owners but not to the players.

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Quote from: milewilda on May 21, 2019, 08:35:04 PM

I highly agree with this conclusion stated on OP;

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"So, the conclusion here is “there are no long-term winning strategies out there”. No matter “common” or “individual”. But with a certain approach, good mathematical skills plus some experience, bankroll availability, discipline, as well as reasonable RoR acceptance and awareness of your own risks could be considered as a reasonable background and may evolve into a kind of hobby later. That being said, “Researching” might be a way to entertain yourself , but never the method of long-term guaranteed income. "

This should really be put up always on our mind that theres no long term strategies that would work.

Agree as well here ,because our strategy won’t last long because the game designed will surely interfere in what we re doing and will make necessary move to prevent us from winning so fo short time yes it will functional but will stop in a certain time

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Unless if you are doing
skill based games then you might really have that edge due to experience and skills enhanced.

Well skill can be used but luck must be go together because if not then all will end up losing

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Quote from: davis196 on May 19, 2019, 12:15:30 AM

Why the hell are you writing (or copy pasting) such a long thread?
Nobody is going to read that novel. Grin

We all know that it's almost impossible to cheat a casino and it's 100% impossible to create the ultimate winning gambling strategy.Gambling is not about making money,it's about spending money(that you can afford to lose) for fun.

Very well said. You cannot cheat gambling but the house can cheat you. Even you try all the myths, you cannot hack the system. On the other hand , the house have a large possibility on manipulating the game in order to the gamblers to put a large amount of money to lose. If you want to spend money, go gambling.

I think its possible to cheat the system of a gambling but only of you are a skilled hacker . You can hack them and bypass thier security ,find loopholes . Im sure that you can make much money on them but in reality , hacking is a crime , its a sin and its also hard to do . Ill rather play gambling normally , win or loose ill accept it because gambling is really built for a different kind of fun and thrill , not for money making business .

In fact, you can get an advantage without any hacking, for example, I used to search for loopholes and errors in the casino, most often such errors are associated with referral systems where you can not lose if certain conditions are met.
If I found something like this, I informed the administration and received a reward from them, sometimes this reward was a ban Cheesy

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Quote from: rachman mahesa on May 21, 2019, 11:16:25 AM

With the number of sentences you give above, of course everyone will read it if you have plenty of time for it. I just want to discuss this.

Quote from: burenka on May 19, 2019, 12:06:35 AM

Each casino player has got their reasons for gambling, which can be divided into several types, namely entertainment, relax, excitement and thrill, dreaming as well as winning. As for myself, I like to play games which provide a high jackpot, when each bet is a small lottery ticket, which inspires me to dream for a couple of minutes about my potential opportunities. For me it’s some kind of time purchased to “legitimately” dream about different things.

For me as a gambler, playing gambling is only for entertainment and pleasure. And other people also must be different reasons for playing judgments. If you only play games to get the jackpot it doesn't matter either. I also often do that and hope to win the jackpot. So whatever we do is the right thing to achieve that dream.

Those who are financially sound and are enjoying the luxuries of life do play not for money but for joy. They often go and spend holidays in Manila too. If you say you are gambling for fun and you are doing it constantly for years, we know the story. Yeah some people might gamble for money but not all of them. The sole motivation behind gambling is making economic gains.

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