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Quote from: LuanX3 on December 17, 2016, 11:32:20 PM

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Quote from: lite on December 17, 2016, 03:08:37 PM

It's true, bitcoin itself is investment but to make profit, you'll have to wait for long period for the price to go up.

Waiting is part of investing as well, either you just sit and wait till the price goes up or you can just go and invest your bitcoin in some trusted site however the same as waiting for the price to go up there is actually some risk involved , well anyway everything has some risk involved and there is no such thing as risk free

Yeah, some people can consider investments as gambling. In their point of view, investment is like gambling because investors are trying to earn money (like gamblers), but in investing they are waiting for their assets to raise and if does or does not that is where the gambling is. Also, if it is indeed rising then the gambling there is when to push the withdraw button. So basically, some think that investing is indeed gambling because it is also not risk free.

It really depends on the person's perspective on how they want to earn money. Some people are good in gambling and some are in business. Some can earn good money in gambling and they consider it as an investment. If I had that luck and talent then why not chose gambling.

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Quote from: lite on December 17, 2016, 03:08:37 PM

It's true, bitcoin itself is investment but to make profit, you'll have to wait for long period for the price to go up.

Waiting is part of investing as well, either you just sit and wait till the price goes up or you can just go and invest your bitcoin in some trusted site however the same as waiting for the price to go up there is actually some risk involved , well anyway everything has some risk involved and there is no such thing as risk free

Yeah, some people can consider investments as gambling. In their point of view, investment is like gambling because investors are trying to earn money (like gamblers), but in investing they are waiting for their assets to raise and if does or does not that is where the gambling is. Also, if it is indeed rising then the gambling there is when to push the withdraw button. So basically, some think that investing is indeed gambling because it is also not risk free.

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Quote from: lite on December 17, 2016, 03:08:37 PM

It's true, bitcoin itself is investment but to make profit, you'll have to wait for long period for the price to go up.

Waiting is part of investing as well, either you just sit and wait till the price goes up or you can just go and invest your bitcoin in some trusted site however the same as waiting for the price to go up there is actually some risk involved , well anyway everything has some risk involved and there is no such thing as risk free

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Quote from: butcherboss on December 16, 2016, 06:56:01 AM

If you want to grow your 1BTC i wouldn't suggest gambling. Maybe invest it in some good alt coin. The 1 Bitcoin itself is a good investment. You could also trade with it if you want faster growth.

Also, stay away from ponzi schemes and hyips those are nothing but scams.

Investing in altcoins is also not very good nowadays because every day a new scam coin come and loot the investors. If you are suggesting for investing in already established altcoins then it is ok but for short time not for long term investment.

Yes because the possibility to rise up is no longer that much it will move still but not that much anymore since btc still moving up and it is affecting the value of any alt project, but still investing with alt trading is much better and less riskier than playing with gambling.

Trading is not a good idea i feel that altcoin is going to die soon the market cap was decreases like top 2 and 3 trends are decreasing..
Also i think there is many altcoin can be good to invest will release in the market in 2017 this january or few months that can be trending in the future like eth.. but it is hard which is one of them.
Yeah playing with gambling is much riskier than trading.. but there is choices like investing it in bankroll that already have some reviews like in betking..

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Quote from: Vikingr on December 17, 2016, 03:21:29 PM

Quote from: butcherboss on December 16, 2016, 06:56:01 AM

If you want to grow your 1BTC i wouldn't suggest gambling. Maybe invest it in some good alt coin. The 1 Bitcoin itself is a good investment. You could also trade with it if you want faster growth.

Also, stay away from ponzi schemes and hyips those are nothing but scams.

Investing in altcoins is also not very good nowadays because every day a new scam coin come and loot the investors. If you are suggesting for investing in already established altcoins then it is ok but for short time not for long term investment.

Yes because the possibility to rise up is no longer that much it will move still but not that much anymore since btc still moving up and it is affecting the value of any alt project, but still investing with alt trading is much better and less riskier than playing with gambling.

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Quote from: butcherboss on December 16, 2016, 06:56:01 AM

If you want to grow your 1BTC i wouldn't suggest gambling. Maybe invest it in some good alt coin. The 1 Bitcoin itself is a good investment. You could also trade with it if you want faster growth.

Also, stay away from ponzi schemes and hyips those are nothing but scams.

Investing in altcoins is also not very good nowadays because every day a new scam coin come and loot the investors. If you are suggesting for investing in already established altcoins then it is ok but for short time not for long term investment.

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Quote from: butcherboss on December 16, 2016, 06:56:01 AM

If you want to grow your 1BTC i wouldn't suggest gambling. Maybe invest it in some good alt coin. The 1 Bitcoin itself is a good investment. You could also trade with it if you want faster growth.

Also, stay away from ponzi schemes and hyips those are nothing but scams.

It's true, bitcoin itself is investment but to make profit, you'll have to wait for long period for the price to go up. trading is a good idea you would make daily profit if the price fluctuates and you must have the necessary knowledge or follow someone's chart analysis.

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hi guys, i bought 1BTC today and i am wondering to gamble or to invest the 1btc?

if to gamble

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and if to invest.

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thank you for your opinions guys

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My advice if you already know how to trade better BTC is used for trading. The easiest yes gamble gambling swordfish sport requires special expertise. while investment you can invest in ico altcoin are not at risk for later if it fails will refund

Ico's are very risky investment, many of ico/altcoins are pumped and dumped then after a few months they're dead. the best thing would be to invest in casino's bankroll.

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Quote from: Invulner on December 16, 2016, 12:08:13 AM

I'd rather invest my coins in a startup company, because at least i know I have a chance to win in the long run.

It has no difference like gambling as well, investing in a startup is mostly a gamble. Do you even know how many startup that actually ended up failing in less than 2 years? Or worse even less than a year if they cant survive the heat . That means it is actually quite risky like gambling itself

I agree with Invulner. With gambling you are certain that you are going to lose. Gambling is entertainment. It is for fun, or it is supposed to be for fun. Do you see the top 10 richest people in the world gambling? No.

Gambling has a house edge. That house edge kills you in the long run.

The world top 10 richest person are actually gambler. They invest in things that nobody will put their money on and make that into their goldmine. Obviously this method has high chance to fail indeed however they gamble with it and now live happily from it , the story would be different if they dont "gamble" with it

Yeah rich people won't fear of losing which is the good thing they do. For common men its really hard to gamble without fear of losing. Because they were risking their own money which is being used for their daily living.

It's true. And those 10 richest persons of world, they won't become rich because the gambled, they are gamblers because they are rich.
If you don't have money to live well, don't try to earn money gambling, you will waste your money for nothing. Gambling is a practice for wealthy men, with nothing to lose.

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Quote from: erwin45hacked on December 17, 2016, 01:11:33 AM

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Quote from: Invulner on December 16, 2016, 12:08:13 AM

I'd rather invest my coins in a startup company, because at least i know I have a chance to win in the long run.

It has no difference like gambling as well, investing in a startup is mostly a gamble. Do you even know how many startup that actually ended up failing in less than 2 years? Or worse even less than a year if they cant survive the heat . That means it is actually quite risky like gambling itself

I agree with Invulner. With gambling you are certain that you are going to lose. Gambling is entertainment. It is for fun, or it is supposed to be for fun. Do you see the top 10 richest people in the world gambling? No.

Gambling has a house edge. That house edge kills you in the long run.

The world top 10 richest person are actually gambler. They invest in things that nobody will put their money on and make that into their goldmine. Obviously this method has high chance to fail indeed however they gamble with it and now live happily from it , the story would be different if they dont "gamble" with it

Yeah rich people won't fear of losing which is the good thing they do. For common men its really hard to gamble without fear of losing. Because they were risking their own money which is being used for their daily living.

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Quote from: erwin45hacked on December 16, 2016, 01:33:17 AM

Quote from: Invulner on December 16, 2016, 12:08:13 AM

I'd rather invest my coins in a startup company, because at least i know I have a chance to win in the long run.

It has no difference like gambling as well, investing in a startup is mostly a gamble. Do you even know how many startup that actually ended up failing in less than 2 years? Or worse even less than a year if they cant survive the heat . That means it is actually quite risky like gambling itself

Im afraid what erwin45hacked says is true. There are lots of startup that fail and it is not limited to cryptocurrency. If you look at the statistics, I think more than 55% fail and that is worst than playing dice in my opinion.

You can use this as reference

https://smallbiztrends.com/2008/04/startup-failure-rates.html
http://tech.co/startup-failure-rates-industry-2016-01
https://www.creditdonkey.com/startup-failure-rate.html

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Quote from: Natalim on December 17, 2016, 02:46:26 AM

it's obvious and every investors knows that they are gambling the future of their investment, this could be similar to buying bitcoins and holding it for the future, we gamble for the future of bitcoin thru our investment.

It sounds like it is an investment inside an investment which is bad sometimes unless you can just stand the heat for that. You are doubling your risk of losing money because not only that you are affected to the price however you are affected to the variances from your investment as well as you are actually doubling your chance for profit

Whatever you call it, the outcome will be base on how you manage your investment. It's risky but the more the risk the more the better profit you will have if you were able to manage your investment right. That's how people do sometimes, they take more risk hoping for greater return, and only a person who are risk taker will be rich someday.

There is really no point in putting an investment inside an investment anymore. Unless you have some spare funds that you are ready to loss however it is not the case as well. Some people dont really get the point that bitcoin is getting popular day by day and keep on throwing away their bitcoin by putting it in a risky investment

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Quote from: Kasabus on December 17, 2016, 04:23:20 AM

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Quote from: Natalim on December 17, 2016, 02:46:26 AM

it's obvious and every investors knows that they are gambling the future of their investment, this could be similar to buying bitcoins and holding it for the future, we gamble for the future of bitcoin thru our investment.

It sounds like it is an investment inside an investment which is bad sometimes unless you can just stand the heat for that. You are doubling your risk of losing money because not only that you are affected to the price however you are affected to the variances from your investment as well as you are actually doubling your chance for profit

Whatever you call it, the outcome will be base on how you manage your investment. It's risky but the more the risk the more the better profit you will have if you were able to manage your investment right. That's how people do sometimes, they take more risk hoping for greater return, and only a person who are risk taker will be rich someday.

Better to be in safe haven of investment, this is just applicable to those people who have a lot of money to spend for their investment which is happening. But I don't recommend to put yourself into more risk, better to have decent profit by simply having good and acceptable amount of profit rather than high possible profit, but high chance of losing your investment.

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Quote from: shulio on December 17, 2016, 04:12:48 AM

Quote from: Natalim on December 17, 2016, 02:46:26 AM

it's obvious and every investors knows that they are gambling the future of their investment, this could be similar to buying bitcoins and holding it for the future, we gamble for the future of bitcoin thru our investment.

It sounds like it is an investment inside an investment which is bad sometimes unless you can just stand the heat for that. You are doubling your risk of losing money because not only that you are affected to the price however you are affected to the variances from your investment as well as you are actually doubling your chance for profit

Whatever you call it, the outcome will be base on how you manage your investment. It's risky but the more the risk the more the better profit you will have if you were able to manage your investment right. That's how people do sometimes, they take more risk hoping for greater return, and only a person who are risk taker will be rich someday.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 17, 2016, 02:46:26 AM

it's obvious and every investors knows that they are gambling the future of their investment, this could be similar to buying bitcoins and holding it for the future, we gamble for the future of bitcoin thru our investment.

It sounds like it is an investment inside an investment which is bad sometimes unless you can just stand the heat for that. You are doubling your risk of losing money because not only that you are affected to the price however you are affected to the variances from your investment as well as you are actually doubling your chance for profit

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Quote from: Invulner on December 16, 2016, 12:08:13 AM

I'd rather invest my coins in a startup company, because at least i know I have a chance to win in the long run.

It has no difference like gambling as well, investing in a startup is mostly a gamble. Do you even know how many startup that actually ended up failing in less than 2 years? Or worse even less than a year if they cant survive the heat . That means it is actually quite risky like gambling itself

I agree with Invulner. With gambling you are certain that you are going to lose. Gambling is entertainment. It is for fun, or it is supposed to be for fun. Do you see the top 10 richest people in the world gambling? No.

Gambling has a house edge. That house edge kills you in the long run.

The world top 10 richest person are actually gambler. They invest in things that nobody will put their money on and make that into their goldmine. Obviously this method has high chance to fail indeed however they gamble with it and now live happily from it , the story would be different if they dont "gamble" with it

It's a different type of gambling, it's an investment and every investment is a gamble. What OP meant is maybe to do gambling or to invest if I am not mistaken, it's obvious and every investors knows that they are gambling the future of their investment, this could be similar to buying bitcoins and holding it for the future, we gamble for the future of bitcoin thru our investment.

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For me personally, I would just gamble that 1 btc because it's a huge bankroll when it comes to gambling and if you have a huge bankroll you have more chances of winning but if you want a safer play then go for investment.

Probably that depends on the amount of winning your targeted and the type of game you are playing, one can win in gambling if he has a specific plan and will be able to execute it. With 1 BTC if you aim to reach a winning of 100 BTC, that so much luck is needed here. Growing more than 100% of your initial bankroll is already difficult therefore the risk is always there.

Well, getting 100BTC from 1BTC is actually 10000% and honestly... The odds that this happens is really really low and aiming for it it's just a waste of time.

And it is not guaranteed that even you have big bankroll you have a lot of chance of winning, don't forget that you have a lot of chance to lose too and with much bigger money.

Probably with that amount, I will cut it into two shares, half for gambling which is 0.5 BTC and half will be in investment, maybe in bankroll casino's.

So even I will lose that half amount, I still have a hope that I can recover it with my investment even the progress is going to be slow.

Bankroll is not the main key of winning, you win because you can predict more winners than losers, that's it. However, if you are really serious with earning big in gambling, you might want to put big amount so you can also win big amount if you can continue your success while betting small.

It's a difficult job, you need to consider a lot of things including managing your emotion.

For me it is one of the main keys of winning because the higher bank roll you have, the higher chance of winning.

And because of it, even you will bet smaller amount that is going to be continuous regardless on how you will gamble that big bank roll.

That is just securing you that you can be in a the league for a longer time and that is going to make you more chance of recovering and winning.

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Quote from: Yuuto on December 16, 2016, 07:25:10 PM

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Quote from: Invulner on December 16, 2016, 12:08:13 AM

I'd rather invest my coins in a startup company, because at least i know I have a chance to win in the long run.

It has no difference like gambling as well, investing in a startup is mostly a gamble. Do you even know how many startup that actually ended up failing in less than 2 years? Or worse even less than a year if they cant survive the heat . That means it is actually quite risky like gambling itself

I agree with Invulner. With gambling you are certain that you are going to lose. Gambling is entertainment. It is for fun, or it is supposed to be for fun. Do you see the top 10 richest people in the world gambling? No.

Gambling has a house edge. That house edge kills you in the long run.

The world top 10 richest person are actually gambler. They invest in things that nobody will put their money on and make that into their goldmine. Obviously this method has high chance to fail indeed however they gamble with it and now live happily from it , the story would be different if they dont "gamble" with it

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Quote from: Yuuto on December 16, 2016, 07:25:10 PM

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Quote from: Invulner on December 16, 2016, 12:08:13 AM

I'd rather invest my coins in a startup company, because at least i know I have a chance to win in the long run.

It has no difference like gambling as well, investing in a startup is mostly a gamble. Do you even know how many startup that actually ended up failing in less than 2 years? Or worse even less than a year if they cant survive the heat . That means it is actually quite risky like gambling itself

I agree with Invulner. With gambling you are certain that you are going to lose. Gambling is entertainment. It is for fun, or it is supposed to be for fun. Do you see the top 10 richest people in the world gambling? No.

Gambling has a house edge. That house edge kills you in the long run.

Thinking that you are going to lose, will just ensure you will not lose any amount you cannot afford to lose, but that is very negative when it comes to your aim of making profit, you need to be very positive with your actions in gambling, you idea will dictate the outcome and being positive and optimistic will help and will make force you to find a working method that would help.

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Quote from: erwin45hacked on December 16, 2016, 01:33:17 AM

Quote from: Invulner on December 16, 2016, 12:08:13 AM

I'd rather invest my coins in a startup company, because at least i know I have a chance to win in the long run.

It has no difference like gambling as well, investing in a startup is mostly a gamble. Do you even know how many startup that actually ended up failing in less than 2 years? Or worse even less than a year if they cant survive the heat . That means it is actually quite risky like gambling itself

I agree with Invulner. With gambling you are certain that you are going to lose. Gambling is entertainment. It is for fun, or it is supposed to be for fun. Do you see the top 10 richest people in the world gambling? No.

Gambling has a house edge. That house edge kills you in the long run.

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Quote from: butcherboss on December 16, 2016, 06:56:01 AM

If you want to grow your 1BTC i wouldn't suggest gambling. Maybe invest it in some good alt coin. The 1 Bitcoin itself is a good investment. You could also trade with it if you want faster growth.

Also, stay away from ponzi schemes and hyips those are nothing but scams.

Both are very dangerous if you want to grow money because gambling is not for making money but spending money for enjoyment and altcoin trading will be almost same a gambling if you don't have a knowledge of trading. So I suggest better you get some good knowledge about trading than only start trading.

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