Topic: To those waiting for the COVID-19 vaccine.. (Read 618 times)

I doubt there is any healthy person waiting on the Covid19 vaccine excluding the once confirmed to have been infected already. Especially with the series of rumor passed on through gossips on the possible complications associated with getting administered an improperly tested and certified to be good and after effect free vaccine.
People have gone almost completely to living their normal life aside from accessing mainly government owned establishments and corporate organizations which is well monitored by the government not to fault in complying to Covid19 guidelines. It's been almost a year since the pandemic struck and people have lost trust in the system for a laboratory prepared cure or vaccine. Natural immunity seems to be the only chance at it and I believe the people know this now to be true.

in the UK many thousands of people with no pre-existing condition
they done a study in summer. where ~1.3k of ~29k had no pre-existing condition at all
there was another 8k thats only had mental health/learning disabilities pre existing conditions.

yep about 1/3 died of covid where medically no issues were linked to there death apart from covid


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what you find is people with mental issues are the ones that refuse or cannot understand social distancing. so they are more likely to congregate around people without protecting themselves. so yea they will get high load. and suffer for it.
not because of bad organs or bad immune. but purely on high viral load due to lack of precaution

to those waiting for a vaccine
trump is not a expert in science or medicine
when he promotes'vaccine before christmas. thats HIS promotion. and that is HIS words that make people think 'too soon, maybe it not tested enough'

the actual medical world and also the science and education world(smart people) are not promising before christmas

infact in the UK the government are actually planning for next years May exams to be planned out for social distancing because they know vaccines are not going to be available before christmas to sort it all by spring.

infact UK government is prepping healthcare plans for spring and calculating how often to do 'circuit breaker' (temporary two week lockdowns) periodically because they know a vaccine wont be ready for christmas or spring.

so all you thinking vaccine by christmas is bad. well remember the doctors and specialists are not advising christmas. only trump
so to stop panicking. just stop listening to trump
once you ignore trumps empty promisees and hypocrisies, and instead actually look at what the real agencies are actually doing. you will see that a vaccine is not going to sort it all out by christmas

The simple fact is, the CDC lies. And when they are caught in a lie, they expand it thousands of times, to scare the s*** out of anybody who might look at the fact that they lie - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-trump-aides-you-have-no-idea-how-deep-the-cdc-scandals-go-5276951.

Right, a healthy body can be immune to covid 19. Always eat vegetable which is good  to your body, take vitamins and always excercise. That is our best defense for covid 19

No vaccine for now. The Russian vaccine (sputnik-V) has only passed the second phase, it remains the third phase testing when it will be tested on thousands of people which were said to be doctors and teachers. But, for now, no vaccine given to masses, no known vaccine for now. As no vaccine available to the public or world communities.

Covid-19 is actually killing, but killing people that are not healthy. How many healthy people have you heard that the virus killed? Although, people should focus on safety measure like washing of hands and the use of face mask. But, we need to also focus mainly on staying healthy by having good sleep, eating good food and having a healthy life style.

To those waitng for the COVID-19 vaccine, stay safe do all the protocols giving by our government. By individuals let us think that COVID-19 is serious and very dangerous virus that kills us if we don't aware and abide. Stay home and stay safe.

They have been testing the effects of vaccines 7 or 8 years after administration, and the results are quite alarming. Current tests ( if they are done) only check a few days after infection ( that is how a vaccine works), and they don't test for interaction with other drugs that the sheeple may be taking.

The latest news suggests that Russia has already invented one vaccine, and a second vaccine is already in its final step towards completion. By the end of 2020, it is planned to establish up to 10 million vaccines per month in Russia. Mass vaccination of Russians is planned for October. Vaccinations will be routine, just like seasonal flu shots.

https://www.dw.com/en/russia-plans-coronavirus-vaccination-program-from-october/a-54401689

Before they start pratting around with vaccines that cripple people, and create deformed and unemployable kids, why don't they try to improve general health. Ban smoking, seed oils, vaping ultra-processed foods, coke and energy drinks for example.

Of course that won't suit the ruling elite. They want us to have artificially manufactured "foods", and immune systems that are controlled by the virus master - Bill Gates.

I got to be 78 by avoiding all vaccines and medication, and enjoying life. I even ride motor cycles, and they tell me that is dangerous.

Late reply, but I am highly concerned about the possible long term consequences of an improperly tested vaccine. One vaccine needs decades to only try to approximate which side effects there are to it. Giving a dose that has been worked on for only 10 months to the entire population of a country/the world is very concerning to say the least. Just imagine a possible scenario of severe side effects that only come after an year or two after taking the dose. One of them may be even paralysis. Let's try not to avoid the pandemic only to push ourselves into an even more severe situation.

I think the last seven months proved all the global hysteria wrong. I still have yet to hear one person from my country who knows a person that has been severely affected by the virus, and it's been seven months already. But leaving that aside, instead of focusing on the very quick distribution of the vaccine, I would personally focus on properly creating herd immunity and possibly releasing the vaccine only when it's almost sure the side effects are only seen in very very low percentages of the pacients.

Taking a quote from GatesNotes to sustain my just-explained opinion:

@coinlocket$, hello, i'm from rome.

Pls donot take any news you might have heard or read in italian newspaper seriously when it comes to cov-19 & vaccine.

There are lot of misconception.

Thanks

Well, the Vaccine is almost done. A collaboration between Italy and Uk is already in stage 3.

They are talking here in Italy if the final stage will go well to have the 1st dose ready for September in a special lab here in Italy.
The vaccine for the mass should be ready for q4 2020 q1 2021.

If you can understand Italian, this is a video from this special lab: https://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/cronaca/lazio/coronavirus-nello-stabilimento-italiano-che-produce-il-vaccino-la-prima-fiale-potrebbe-arrivare-a-settembre_19958531-202002a.shtml

They will be ready for the production from August but the 1st box of vaccine will not be ready before September they said.

a vaccine for COVID-19 is unlikely to ever be found, this virus can only disappear like the previous plague (sars & mers).  an microbiologist from Australia said that sars-cov-2 which is currently a "pandemic" is divided into 3 types, type A which is epidemic in America, type B which is epidemic in China and type C which is in Europe, this is the reason why the symptoms are different in several areas..  this virus is strange, almost like an HIV virus that attacks the body's immune system, that microbiologist said "this virus is like a flu virus combined with HIV"..

I'm not anti-waxer, but even if vaccine against COVID-19 will be found, I doubt that I'm going to use it, same like I never use flu vaccine. First of all, it's not clear when it will be found. Making effective vaccine isn't that easy, so it can took years to create it. It's likely that COVID-19 virus will mutate, and when vaccine will be made, it simply may not work.
I like Sweden approach, but I'm not sure that's perfect example which should be followed by every country. Yes, situation isn't worse than in Italy or USA, but it's definitely not that good. If I'm not mistaken, death rate for 1 million people in Sweden is one of biggest in the world.

There will never be a vaccine to protect against the corona virus, there may be some treatments that purport to be beneficial, but they won't be as good as natural defences in a healthy body. You are being misled by propaganda if you think that the Bill Gates funded health industry will come up with anything beneficial. Take hydroxychloroquine for example. That is supposed to provide 90% protection and recovery, but natural immunity provides 95%, so, although it looks good, it is actually 5% worse that the benefits from a healthy lifestyle. What a waste of taxpayers money.

just need to debunk the OP references
[7] the los angeles only had Out of 863 adults tested in LA County, 35 or 4.06%
     the santa clara study had out of 3300, 50 or 1.5%

the studies then went into try to factor in lots of excuses for discrepencies which pushed the number of actual positive tests of 1.5 up to the extremes of 5%

so just doing the math
if we take los angeles ACTUAL antibody results would have USAs 330m population as 13.4m herd immunised
if we take santa clara ACTUAL antibody results would have USAs 330m population as 5m herd immunised

knowing americans covid positive stats are 1m+ thats a 5-13x not a 50-80x

sorry folks but 50m-80m are not immune.. its more like 5m-13m

have fun with those real numbers not medias wishy washy numbers based on 'statistical error' summaries

North America and some European cities, and possibly India and Japan too have food delivery services like Instacart and Amazon Fresh available, so food shortages won't be a big problem for them. These services send workers to buy groceries from supermarkets, some of which are far away, and deliver it to you.

China seemed to have this handy ahead of time. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/3/25/21193817/home-delivery-china-coronavirus-us-alibaba-amazon

For other places it's getting pretty bad. Locals here brought together a lot of essential groceries to resell in my area due to rampant selling out in stores.

Unfortunately for all people living in apartment buildings, the option of growing your own fruit and vegetables is an impossible mission, except in the case of those who do it on their balconies, but it is more like a hobby than sufficient production. Those who do not have the land to plant something and later harvest are completely condemned to have to buy such products. Given that the demand for such goods is constant, any shortage will entail an increase in price, which will cause some people to be unable to afford enough fresh fruits and vegetables.

For those who have the ability to cultivate their garden, things are not as simple as they might seem at first glance. If we want to have healthy food from our garden we need to have healthy soil, clean water, untreated seeds and favorable weather conditions. Such production requires experience and a lot of work, while the results are not always favorable.

I personally have my own little garden and planted almost all kinds of vegetables, but the weather conditions in the last 5-6 years have deteriorated significantly. Already in April we have temperatures of around 30 degrees Celsius, which mainly results with spring storms with strong winds and hail. Therefore, for the purpose of protection, it should be invested in hail protection (protection nets) which makes production even more expensive and more demanding.

But it's definitely better to have some kind of insurance and do something in food production than to depend entirely on someone else. Tomatoes from my garden are not comparable to industrially produced tomatoes, they are completely healthy (no harmful substances), have the right flavor and all the nutrients (I use old varieties of seeds) so the effort pays off.

Yes, you're right, of course. This is certainly a seller's market. Whoever produces the vaccine can make whatever demands they like, and countries will just say yes to all of them, legal immunity naturally being the first condition. I take back my point, I'm wrong, they will surely be legally immune everywhere.