To what extent do you chase anonymity while gambling?

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Quote from: Reatim on October 14, 2022, 10:30:12 PM

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1xbit had a license in Curacao. This shows that a license doesn't mean a thing. Now that the parent company claimed bankruptcy, they have a license.

In our time now as the Licensing of gambling sites are just a Money making place and not to serve the interest and the safety of gamblers, I think this should not matter at all instead we must choose a site that had been serving the forum of not the whole gambling industry with trust over the years.
so we will be having more safer gaming than just a scam here and there like what mentioned by you.

Anonymously gambling is very important and that is why many of these casinos choose to use crypto gambling that fiat which is more safer and faster. Casinos now want gamblers to keep playing on there casinos which is the reason why many of these gamblers sites are looking for a better way to make sure that deposit transaction is more faster so gamblers can keep playing and losing there funds.

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Quote from: paxmao on October 20, 2022, 07:11:06 PM

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Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.

Still the problem remains, you value your anonymity but at the same time most of the law compliant sites will conduct some short of KYC and will have you in files. It is a choice youhave to make - be fully compliant and legal or go dark and then face the risks associated with working with business that may not have accountability. Let's say that their owner can also be anonymous when they want.

Your analysis is very deep and I see very well what you mean, but does that mean that only those who have money and power are the ones who will have the right to anonymity? a casino owner or dulñeños if they have the right to be anonymous, because the ones who face the casino are the devs? that's what I know, in a project I always saw that, I have doubts if things work that way in a casino, sometimes I think that what regulations bring are more problems and confusion, but within all this, what are they looking for undress people with KYC? For governments to strangle the economies of the people who make some profit?

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Quote from: lienfaye on October 17, 2022, 07:47:03 PM

Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.

Still the problem remains, you value your anonymity but at the same time most of the law compliant sites will conduct some short of KYC and will have you in files. It is a choice youhave to make - be fully compliant and legal or go dark and then face the risks associated with working with business that may not have accountability. Let's say that their owner can also be anonymous when they want.

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Quote from: Silberman on October 20, 2022, 04:02:02 PM

Without a doubt many people at the early stages of this market preferred to gamble in cryptocurrency casinos due to the respect they offered to their privacy, however the gambling industry in this market is now so big that governments decided they could not leave it alone any longer and they have passed regulations all over the world which force casinos to identify their customers, so each year it is getting harder and harder to find a reputable casino which will not force KYC on you at some point in time.

Many popular casinos today have followed government regulations although they still have a tolerance for not asking for KYC on low withdrawals, but anyone who gambles at a centralized casino should be willing to verify identity data if one is asked to factor in account security, looking like an account on a top exchange when many investors and traders have to verify KYC before being allowed to trade and withdraw.

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Quote from: Silberman on October 20, 2022, 04:02:02 PM

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Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.

This is one of the reasons why many gamblers prefer using a crypto casinos to gamble and get things done without any stress of thinking of exposing there identity to gambling platforms. Everyone wants to be safe from any future attack which might come as a result of the information these casinos might have gotten from us. Everyone wants there identity to be unknown which is one of the good reasons I do see much many crypto gamblers prefer gambling on a crypto casinos.

Without a doubt many people at the early stages of this market preferred to gamble in cryptocurrency casinos due to the respect they offered to their privacy, however the gambling industry in this market is now so big that governments decided they could not leave it alone any longer and they have passed regulations all over the world which force casinos to identify their customers, so each year it is getting harder and harder to find a reputable casino which will not force KYC on you at some point in time.

Actually most of platforms now are regulated and they have included on their terms and conditions that they could anytime ask out for some verification depending on their likes or discretion which does

simply means that on the time you do make out some registering on a site then you should really be anticipating or expecting that anything could happen.If you do give out importance of anonymity

and you are also a big wagerer or player then you would definitely be coming into a point which you would really be needing those verification which isnt something surprising
when you do deal up with those businesses which are really that going in line with those regulation set up by the government.

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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.

This is one of the reasons why many gamblers prefer using a crypto casinos to gamble and get things done without any stress of thinking of exposing there identity to gambling platforms. Everyone wants to be safe from any future attack which might come as a result of the information these casinos might have gotten from us. Everyone wants there identity to be unknown which is one of the good reasons I do see much many crypto gamblers prefer gambling on a crypto casinos.

Without a doubt many people at the early stages of this market preferred to gamble in cryptocurrency casinos due to the respect they offered to their privacy, however the gambling industry in this market is now so big that governments decided they could not leave it alone any longer and they have passed regulations all over the world which force casinos to identify their customers, so each year it is getting harder and harder to find a reputable casino which will not force KYC on you at some point in time.

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Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Of course I think anonymity in gambling is important, most people would be more comfortable when gambling if identity or personal information is not known.
but for now many popular casinos have implemented KYC verification, in fact almost all gambling sites have implemented KYC verification.
in almost all countries some popular casinos have and must implement KYC, in the end we will comply with those regulations and KYC verification as well.
as long as we must be able to choose a casino that is trusted and has a good reputation.

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Quote from: lienfaye on October 17, 2022, 07:47:03 PM

Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.

This is one of the reasons why many gamblers prefer using a crypto casinos to gamble and get things done without any stress of thinking of exposing there identity to gambling platforms. Everyone wants to be safe from any future attack which might come as a result of the information these casinos might have gotten from us. Everyone wants there identity to be unknown which is one of the good reasons I do see much many crypto gamblers prefer gambling on a crypto casinos.

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1xbit had a license in Curacao. This shows that a license doesn't mean a thing. Now that the parent company claimed bankruptcy, they have a license.

In our time now as the Licensing of gambling sites are just a Money making place and not to serve the interest and the safety of gamblers, I think this should not matter at all instead we must choose a site that had been serving the forum of not the whole gambling industry with trust over the years.
so we will be having more safer gaming than just a scam here and there like what mentioned by you.

Anonymously gambling is very important and that is why many of these casinos choose to use crypto gambling that fiat which is more safer and faster. Casinos now want gamblers to keep playing on there casinos which is the reason why many of these gamblers sites are looking for a better way to make sure that deposit transaction is more faster so gamblers can keep playing and losing there funds.

If you truly understand the market now and how Gambling business works in crypto? then you will surely see that almost all of casinos now are implementing KYC, either before deposit or before withdrawals?
so no matter how you wanted to be anonymous yet this is not going to happen your way.

You are absolutely right, in each casino that I have entered they ask for KYC in some way, those that have not asked me for KYC is because I have not completed the necessary quota to make a withdrawal, but when I go to the comments in the thread I confirm that if the require, for my part I don't care much about anonymity anymore, I know that it is something very difficult to achieve, there are many controls that have been made so that people take away that right and more and more efforts are being made to achieve zero anonymity and zero privacy, we as a player can not do much, claims can be made, but in the end we know that you can not fight against the big ones.

Ending up on having no choice but to comply if you do see that you do really love to play or continue to hang on with a particular platform because if you dont then you would just simply jump into other place.

Its true that platforms will really be asking further verifications once you do hit up some withdrawal threshold amount which is something casual or typical and just like you on which i dont really bother myself or

thinking up that much because i couldnt really able to hit up that threshold most of the time this is why im really still that confident that it could deal up and play gambling
without worrying about kyc aspect or something in related with these stuffs.

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Quote from: lienfaye on October 17, 2022, 07:47:03 PM

Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.

It's true that due to compliance you should pick those casinos that you trust, entrusting personal information online is really hard nowadays that's the reason there are crypto gamblers who continue to seek playing with anonymity but from time to time changes from casino policies who cater crypto is now also requiring users to submit their KYC.

Especially if you are withdrawing a decent amount, the house is asking for information that pointing you to submit personal verifications.

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Quote from: Reatim on October 17, 2022, 10:48:33 PM

Quote from: Desmong on October 17, 2022, 06:34:38 PM

Quote from: Reatim on October 14, 2022, 10:30:12 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on October 14, 2022, 08:19:41 PM

1xbit had a license in Curacao. This shows that a license doesn't mean a thing. Now that the parent company claimed bankruptcy, they have a license.

In our time now as the Licensing of gambling sites are just a Money making place and not to serve the interest and the safety of gamblers, I think this should not matter at all instead we must choose a site that had been serving the forum of not the whole gambling industry with trust over the years.
so we will be having more safer gaming than just a scam here and there like what mentioned by you.

Anonymously gambling is very important and that is why many of these casinos choose to use crypto gambling that fiat which is more safer and faster. Casinos now want gamblers to keep playing on there casinos which is the reason why many of these gamblers sites are looking for a better way to make sure that deposit transaction is more faster so gamblers can keep playing and losing there funds.

If you truly understand the market now and how Gambling business works in crypto? then you will surely see that almost all of casinos now are implementing KYC, either before deposit or before withdrawals?
so no matter how you wanted to be anonymous yet this is not going to happen your way.

You are absolutely right, in each casino that I have entered they ask for KYC in some way, those that have not asked me for KYC is because I have not completed the necessary quota to make a withdrawal, but when I go to the comments in the thread I confirm that if the require, for my part I don't care much about anonymity anymore, I know that it is something very difficult to achieve, there are many controls that have been made so that people take away that right and more and more efforts are being made to achieve zero anonymity and zero privacy, we as a player can not do much, claims can be made, but in the end we know that you can not fight against the big ones.

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Quote from: Desmong on October 17, 2022, 06:34:38 PM

Quote from: Reatim on October 14, 2022, 10:30:12 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on October 14, 2022, 08:19:41 PM

1xbit had a license in Curacao. This shows that a license doesn't mean a thing. Now that the parent company claimed bankruptcy, they have a license.

In our time now as the Licensing of gambling sites are just a Money making place and not to serve the interest and the safety of gamblers, I think this should not matter at all instead we must choose a site that had been serving the forum of not the whole gambling industry with trust over the years.
so we will be having more safer gaming than just a scam here and there like what mentioned by you.

Anonymously gambling is very important and that is why many of these casinos choose to use crypto gambling that fiat which is more safer and faster. Casinos now want gamblers to keep playing on there casinos which is the reason why many of these gamblers sites are looking for a better way to make sure that deposit transaction is more faster so gamblers can keep playing and losing there funds.

If you truly understand the market now and how Gambling business works in crypto? then you will surely see that almost all of casinos now are implementing KYC, either before deposit or before withdrawals?
so no matter how you wanted to be anonymous yet this is not going to happen your way.

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Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.

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Quote from: BitDane on October 17, 2022, 05:16:33 PM

As long as the gambling platform is reputable, I don't have any worry about my anonymity. The gambling also have a function to hide a players username adding more security to the players account and activity. I wouldn't mind doing KYC in this kind of platform since I am sure that reputable casinos will always protect their players privacy.

This is the reason why I always choose the best site, you can have peace of mind with them and you can focus more on the enjoyment of the game, filling out KYC is also ok with me. I’ve done this already on many site, especially with the gambling site though I got some messages from unknown user but that’s alright as long as I ignore them, I know I’m safe. Scammers and hackers will always be there even if you didn’t fill out any KYC, learn to secure your wallet at all times.

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Quote from: BitDane on October 17, 2022, 05:16:33 PM

As long as the gambling platform is reputable, I don't have any worry about my anonymity. The gambling also have a function to hide a players username adding more security to the players account and activity. I wouldn't mind doing KYC in this kind of platform since I am sure that reputable casinos will always protect their players privacy.

But we know that even legit or known platforms would turn out to be scam possibly thats why we cant really 100% be sure but we dont really have any choice but to stick into those known and popular which we
could really presume out that they are really that safe to deal with.Anonymity is indeed a serious thing for most people but since there are ones who do really play that much money which it would really be
normal that they would be asking out for some verification or kyc but for those small time gamblers then it wont really be that much an issue or something yet we do have lots
of places now that doesnt ask out any verification for you to completely play.

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As long as the gambling platform is reputable, I don't have any worry about my anonymity. The gambling also have a function to hide a players username adding more security to the players account and activity. I wouldn't mind doing KYC in this kind of platform since I am sure that reputable casinos will always protect their players privacy.

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Quote from: serjent05 on October 16, 2022, 03:02:54 PM

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True, implementing KYC makes the casino to spend more, the money used for hiring KYC verification service should have been a profit for the casino but instead they have to spend them to comply with the government regulation.

Casinos must employ a special team for KYC check services but not hire third party services such as websites for data gatekeeper services because there is no guarantee that data checked by third services can be secretly copied and used for other purposes, so casinos must transparently state that they have a special team for KYC data checker of each account user.

The cost might be the concern of every casinos and since this is not their forte, they tend to hire a third party for KYC concern and that’s ok as long as they get the reputable company to handle this. My only concern is my money, as long as I have the access to my account and my Money, i think I can still afford to fill out some KYC but when it comes to other documents, I’m afraid I can’t provide any.

There are various reason as to why gambling platform prefer to us third party KYC services other than doing it on their own. One main reason would be security, since they'll be hiring a third-party service that specifically focuses on Data Acquisition of Personal Documents, users will be assured that their data's will be kept securely. Also, as a gambling platform, they just can't assign a "special team" but rather it will take a whole department for the casino itself to do the KYC process on their own. Just as you've mentioned, it will not be beneficial and cost-wise to the casino as well as the users.

Anyways, as for you providing KYC documents, I hope that you're only willing proceed with it to same platform rather than doing it on multiple platforms as it could be dangerous in the long run if you provide personal documents to multiple platforms.

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I am always concerned about Anonymity in any casino I visit, although there might be warning stating "don't worry, your private information will not be shared with any third party". I prefer full anonymity when gambling.

well maybe that would be better. but what happens when you gamble on a gambling platform and you win a big win and when you want to withdraw all that money you have to do KYC, are you still anonymity? or do you choose to spend more of your winnings instead of having to do KYC for the anonymity that you already uphold?
but if it happened to me, i would take that risk because life is full of high risks even if we sleep there will also be risks.
maybe anonymity is very good and i also want it to not show my real face, but if one day it is needed i will do it. because nothing will restrict me from gambling even if it's anonymity.

it is our obligation to provide KYC as almost 90% of crypto gambling sites now are asking for KYC either from the account creation or from depositing? but mostly upon withdrawal specially with big amount.
so lets bare with it and must learn accepting it.

KYC is needed no matter what we do or even how we hate it.

While now it is very difficult to avoid having to identify yourself at most casinos I still think an effort needs to be made to remain as anonymous as possible, as we know very well that centralized services get hacked all the time and there can be a huge leak of information and then our data will be available to anyone that is willing to pay for it on the black markets, and this is a risk that is not small as even big companies have been hacked in the past.

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Quote from: serjent05 on October 16, 2022, 03:02:54 PM

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True, implementing KYC makes the casino to spend more, the money used for hiring KYC verification service should have been a profit for the casino but instead they have to spend them to comply with the government regulation.

Casinos must employ a special team for KYC check services but not hire third party services such as websites for data gatekeeper services because there is no guarantee that data checked by third services can be secretly copied and used for other purposes, so casinos must transparently state that they have a special team for KYC data checker of each account user.

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Quote from: Blawpaw on October 16, 2022, 01:37:31 PM

Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

I don't think I do even think about anonymity when I'm gambling, however, I've picked crypto casinos just by the simple aspect of being able to instantly recharge or withdraw my funds from the account at any given time. Besides, we do not need to rely on any 3rd party operator to go through with this operation.

Crypto Casinos somehow rely on a third party for their operation. So definitely it is between us and crypto casinos as a middle men on the third-party services offered by the casino like slots provider, and others. Anyway, it is also a best thing to be able to deposit and withdraw funds instantly.

Quote from: Blawpaw on October 16, 2022, 01:37:31 PM

That's the beauty of cryptos, there's no middlemen and you are truthfully in charge of your funds and not dependant on not just some bank or financial institution.

But the thing is a gambling platform that integrates cryptocurrency are now asking for KYC. These gambling platform are centralized company that needs to comply with government regulation. Once the transaction involved a centralized platform, this mentioned beauty of cryptocurrency is negated.

Quote from: Jemzx00 on October 16, 2022, 10:46:50 AM

Actually, most casinos also prefers not to ask their gamblers with any KYC documents however they have no choice but to comply as their business will be compromise if they do follow with the regulations set by the government.

True, implementing KYC makes the casino to spend more, the money used for hiring KYC verification service should have been a profit for the casino but instead they have to spend them to comply with the government regulation.

Quote from: Jemzx00 on October 16, 2022, 10:46:50 AM

Still, some casinos are trying to tie their withdrawal option with KYC requirements which caused some of the gamblers having their funds locked from on the account. It's best to only provide your information to few casino that you trust to avoid future issue involving your identity.

I agree, we should only perform KYC to a casino that we trust to save us from worries of having our identity leaked.

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