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Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It does seem slightly unusual for anyone to be using crypto casinos if they live in a country like the UK, America or parts of Europe. You'd always tend to get better odds in your country of residence, after you take conversion fees into consideration. However there are certain cases, like being paid for doing jobs in cryptocurrency or it being restricted in your country due to perhaps some dumb religious leadership. Personally being open with your identity can bring some better perks with it, provided you choose only the most secure casinos who will be storing your sensitive documents, because they tend to be stored for Know Your Customer legislation which is generally reserved for companies in better jurisdictions that can be more helpful if things go wrong.

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Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

I don't really care if I am going to play with FIAT currency. Official gambling sites are requesting documents by default here in my country (Italy).
It could be something that I care if I am going to use an international platform (it's banned from my country so I am force in this case...).
Regarding crypto, I am reluctant to go for a KYC since I think privacy is a must on this field, and most (all) of this kind casinos are not regulated in my country...

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Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

To be anonymous on a casino is important only if you don't trust in the site, give real data to an untrusted site it's a huge risk for your personal data.

That's the way i see it, i have no problems providing my information to sites that i trust for a KYC process because I'm not doing money laundering or something like that and i don't have anything to hide.

But if i have to choose i would prefer to stay anon.

We discussed this in another thread a while back. It doesn't matter how trustworthy the casino is since employees are the ones that steal and sell the database with the players information. They are valuable especially from a big casino with a huge player base. To be safe, it's never a good idea to give out more information than is necessary.

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Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

To be anonymous on a casino is important only if you don't trust in the site, give real data to an untrusted site it's a huge risk for your personal data.

That's the way i see it, i have no problems providing my information to sites that i trust for a KYC process because I'm not doing money laundering or something like that and i don't have anything to hide.

But if i have to choose i would prefer to stay anon.

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Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

To say the fact ever since casinos have been accepting bitcoin for payments in both withdrawal and deposit makes it more encouraging for the privacy conscious gamblers to gamble with anonymity and ever since then many have been on a look for only casinos that are privacy minded without requiring to undergo through KYC demands, i see being anonymous as a mean to retain your pedigree of respect with people not to easily trace you as identify you as a gambler.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on October 11, 2022, 04:35:12 AM

It depends on which casino you play.

Licensed casino will always have a mandatory KYC rule and this is impossible for you to avoid it. You probably can deposit and gamble, but when you want to withdraw your money, the system will flag your account and they will ask your KYC. You don't have any choice either give or give your money to them.

While unlicensed casino sometime doesn't have KYC rule and you can get benefit with this since you don't need to submit KYC in any cases.

I disagree with this. Stake and many of the other casinos are licensed in Curacao. As I posted above, casinos in Curacao use a sub-license. No gambling body is ever going to check this KYC so it's not necessary to KYC everyone. Those owning a sub-license are regulated by the ones holding a master license. There are four master licenses.

Cyberluck Curacao N.V. (Curacao-eGaming) #1668/JAZ
Gaming Curacao (GC) #365/JAZ
Curacao Interactive Licensing N.V. (CIL) #5536/JAZ
Antillephone NV #8048/JAZ

Some examples, Betcoin is under 365/JAZ, Stake is under 8048/JAZ, FJ 8048/JAZ

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Quote from: iv4n on October 11, 2022, 02:08:36 AM

I think there's no help for him, check his trust rating... and spamming around the forum and other review sites is in vain:

Quote from: Stunna on February 21, 2022, 03:03:39 PM

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This situation was made even worse by OP trying to pass a variety of suspected fake identification documents as his own, all of which were rejected by our integrity team. This resulted in a block of your account. You sent us 4 different ID's all of them with different names, different numbers, and even different nationalities and places of birth.

It's something very fishy here...

I don't like KYC, I don't remember the last time I had to do it... I play in several casinos for years and they never asked for KYC, but I am a fair player! In case I win some crazy high jackpot and I need to do KYC I will do it, it's not a big deal, but I will always pass it if I can.

That's the thing about being in the middle that makes it very difficult. I am not overly fond of just spreading my KYC to everywhere, it's not something that I like doing all the time, and I won't play in a place that asks me my KYC before I even gamble, no reason to pick those places when I already can gamble without KYC in many places.

However, if push comes to shove and I am asked and I have a good chunk of money in there, then I do not mind doing it, because I would be able to get my account back again and I would be able to access my funds again, that's a good reason to do KYC, wouldn't want to, but definitely would do it with no problem because I never do anything against the rules or the law.

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I guess anonymity issue these days is not that big deal anymore as most of the reputable and big casinos have already made it clear before we start playing that KYC is a must particularly for those big time winners. However, the good thing is they are not so strict when it comes to minimal amount of gains, they never require KYC anymore plus there is fast withdrawal too. That way, since I’m not spending too much in gambling, when I won, i ended up in a very smooth sailing and fast withrawal.

Many leading casino regulations have implemented KYC obligations even though they are not yet strict to apply to users, many cases gamblers have to settle KYC when suspicion is found on their account activity so the casino ensures real users to prove their identity, but for accounts without suspicion there seems to be no problem with verification KYC.

There is no harm in revealing your KYC with the authentic casino but for the new online casinos one should be careful in doing that.
The professional gamblers are smart enough to know where to reveal their identity

Honestly if the amount of money won is massive and huge and mandated to do KYC why not I would do it to claim my funds, however if my winnings are small it's better to stay anonymous while gambling, there are tons of credible gambling sites and casinos that allows gambling without KYC provided that it involves small money, although the OP didn't clarify whether it's about physical presence in gambling shops or Casinos or staying anonymously to gamble in that case gambling anonymously is the best bet to avoid close relatives and friends from knowing that I am engaged with gambling.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 11, 2022, 03:46:13 AM

Speaking of anonymity, crypto gamblers have gotten it before because they can play at crypto casinos without having to reveal their identity. For now, many casinos have implemented KYC for their members so anonymity seems to have started to disappear. Although the casino has not implemented it for all its members, sooner or later, it will surely happen so there will be no more anonymity for its members.

But gamblers can still hide their gambling activities because they can still use crypto from their wallets and send it to the casino to gamble. This can keep them hidden from the government, which wants to track people who gamble online.

They can enjoy using a small amount of funding, but when they start using big money, the process of verification will take place. Especially if luck permits them to win huge amount of money, they will be asked for KYC before they can move the money, so far there are still casinos who will allow gamblers to use none KYC gaming, I'm speaking in regard to crypto casino gamblers can still enjoy using services and play the game that they like to play.

Though with the growing market of this industry, we might be expecting that sooner or later, even crypto casinos will implement
verification might be because of government taxes that they needed to comply.

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Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

For me it doesn`t matter, i`m playing for fun and don`t have big deposits. Even the KYC is not a problem for me.
And the second moment - I`m sure that anonimity in cryptocurrencies is a fake. If you have enough money to be interesting for some... organizations - they will find you anyway. Using cryptocurrencies will just slow this process.

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It depends on which casino you play.

Licensed casino will always have a mandatory KYC rule and this is impossible for you to avoid it. You probably can deposit and gamble, but when you want to withdraw your money, the system will flag your account and they will ask your KYC. You don't have any choice either give or give your money to them.

While unlicensed casino sometime doesn't have KYC rule and you can get benefit with this since you don't need to submit KYC in any cases.

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Quote from: Team_MegaPari on October 10, 2022, 05:25:35 AM

Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

in the past , back in the year? yeah in crypto gambling I tend to protect my anonymity , but over time as we entered regulations from one country to another and with the implementation of anti Money laundering? if you still wanna play in gambling sites either Crypto or fiat? then you must comply with KYC or at least if they will require you because there are no complete anonymous in our community now.

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Speaking of anonymity, crypto gamblers have gotten it before because they can play at crypto casinos without having to reveal their identity. For now, many casinos have implemented KYC for their members so anonymity seems to have started to disappear. Although the casino has not implemented it for all its members, sooner or later, it will surely happen so there will be no more anonymity for its members.

But gamblers can still hide their gambling activities because they can still use crypto from their wallets and send it to the casino to gamble. This can keep them hidden from the government, which wants to track people who gamble online.

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Quote from: Baskin198 on October 11, 2022, 01:25:58 AM

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Sorry to hear that. You will have to go to a site such as Ask Gamblers for help. Going the legal route won't get you anywhere other than wasting money on a lawyer. No one has ever won a court case against a book in Curacao or Costa Rica. Most of the books in Curacao and Costa Rica are honest since they don't want to hurt their reputation. All my play goes through books in CR and Curacao. Unfortunately there are dishonest ones too. There are a couple of review sites that help gamblers. That's your only discourse.

I think there's no help for him, check his trust rating... and spamming around the forum and other review sites is in vain:

Quote from: Stunna on February 21, 2022, 03:03:39 PM

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This situation was made even worse by OP trying to pass a variety of suspected fake identification documents as his own, all of which were rejected by our integrity team. This resulted in a block of your account. You sent us 4 different ID's all of them with different names, different numbers, and even different nationalities and places of birth.

It's something very fishy here...

I don't like KYC, I don't remember the last time I had to do it... I play in several casinos for years and they never asked for KYC, but I am a fair player! In case I win some crazy high jackpot and I need to do KYC I will do it, it's not a big deal, but I will always pass it if I can.

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Quote from: Baskin198 on October 11, 2022, 01:25:58 AM

If you want to remain anonymous NEVER PLAY AT STAKE

THEY WILL HOLD YOUR FUNDS AND SCAM YOU IF YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE THEM KYC WITH PASSPORT AND 50 OTHER THINGS THEY ASK. IF YOU DON'T HAVE EVEN 1 OF THEM, YOU ARE GONE!

They are a Curacao book so it's not right for them to be overly intrusive.

They have scammed me for $100k and no reply for 6 months and there is nothing I can do .. I think my money was used to satisfy big promotion people like drake, ufc, etc

Sorry to hear that. You will have to go to a site such as Ask Gamblers for help. Going the legal route won't get you anywhere other than wasting money on a lawyer. No one has ever won a court case against a book in Curacao or Costa Rica. Most of the books in Curacao and Costa Rica are honest since they don't want to hurt their reputation. All my play goes through books in CR and Curacao. Unfortunately there are dishonest ones too. There are a couple of review sites that help gamblers. That's your only discourse.

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Quote from: Rating Place on October 11, 2022, 01:29:16 AM

Quote from: Baskin198 on October 11, 2022, 01:25:58 AM

If you want to remain anonymous NEVER PLAY AT STAKE

THEY WILL HOLD YOUR FUNDS AND SCAM YOU IF YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE THEM KYC WITH PASSPORT AND 50 OTHER THINGS THEY ASK. IF YOU DON'T HAVE EVEN 1 OF THEM, YOU ARE GONE!

They are a Curacao book so it's not right for them to be overly intrusive.

They have scammed me for $100k and no reply for 6 months and there is nothing I can do .. I think my money was used to satisfy big promotion people like drake, ufc, etc

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Quote from: _act_ on October 11, 2022, 01:27:56 AM

Quote from: Rating Place on October 11, 2022, 01:21:46 AM

Most of the bitcoin books and casinos are located in Costa Rica or Curacao. There's really no reason for us to be required to produce KYC. Costa Rica has a data processing license and most of the casinos in Curacao use sublicenses. The governing bodies of these countries do not ask for KYC. Unless someone is trying to obtain more than one account from a sports book, then KYC shouldn't be mandatory.

We should not deceive ourselves with no KYC casinos as long as the gambling site is becoming known to people and public, such casinos would later ask their users for KYC. I am not disputing that their are gambling sites where you will not need to do any KYC, but they can ask their users for KYC at anytime irrespective of the place the gambling site have their license. I have used some gambling sites that do not request for KYC other than email and password, but I am always preparing for KYC if I have money on the casino sites.

Agree with you that many of these sites do ask for KYC and I'm against it. Many times it seems that these casinos asking for KYC are looking for a way not to pay. They have no true legal obligation to ask for KYC because no governing body is ever going to check. It's much different than a license in the UK or US. In these countries they are strict about KYC.

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Quote from: Baskin198 on October 11, 2022, 01:25:58 AM

If you want to remain anonymous NEVER PLAY AT STAKE

THEY WILL HOLD YOUR FUNDS AND SCAM YOU IF YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE THEM KYC WITH PASSPORT AND 50 OTHER THINGS THEY ASK. IF YOU DON'T HAVE EVEN 1 OF THEM, YOU ARE GONE!

They are a Curacao book so it's not right for them to be overly intrusive.

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Quote from: Rating Place on October 11, 2022, 01:21:46 AM

Most of the bitcoin books and casinos are located in Costa Rica or Curacao. There's really no reason for us to be required to produce KYC. Costa Rica has a data processing license and most of the casinos in Curacao use sublicenses. The governing bodies of these countries do not ask for KYC. Unless someone is trying to obtain more than one account from a sports book, then KYC shouldn't be mandatory.

We should not deceive ourselves with no KYC casinos as long as the gambling site is becoming known to people and public, such casinos would later ask their users for KYC. I am not disputing that their are gambling sites where you will not need to do any KYC, but they can ask their users for KYC at anytime irrespective of the place the gambling site have their license. I have used some gambling sites that do not request for KYC other than email and password, but I am always preparing for KYC if I have money on the casino sites.

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If you want to remain anonymous NEVER PLAY AT STAKE

THEY WILL HOLD YOUR FUNDS AND SCAM YOU IF YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE THEM KYC WITH PASSPORT AND 50 OTHER THINGS THEY ASK. IF YOU DON'T HAVE EVEN 1 OF THEM, YOU ARE GONE!

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