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Topic: Today's attack on Bitcoin - page 3. (Read 2534 times)

newbie
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November 12, 2017, 01:30:50 PM
#49
I want to buy an important amount of BTC tomorrow (Because I also think BTC will be back in few days) - From EURO
Will I get the same problem ?

It should be starting to clear up by then. Most miners will be back on the BTC chain within a few hours. You might still be in for a bit of a wait but nothing like the current one.

So I can do it without any problem ?
full member
Activity: 644
Merit: 113
November 12, 2017, 01:26:25 PM
#48
This is a real coordinated attack.

Roger Vermin moved 25k BTC to Bitfinex to put on a public show.

Some mining pools have ceased mining BTC and there's services asking for Bitcoin cash to confirm Bitcoin transactions in the case of https://pushtx.btc.com/ (try it for yourself).

$700m worth of stuck BTC in unconfirmed transactions (including $900+ of mine  Angry ).

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/700-million-stuck-115000-unconfirmed-bitcoin-transactions/

Legions of dump btc and buy bitcoin cash comments everywhere online.

And they keep trying to pump Bitcoin Cash but the market keeps telling them to "fuck off", each peak lower than before, It took me 7 tries to dump the Bitcoin Cash I'd been holding on Bittrex, so I think they may be in on it too. This is not organic it all, it's a planned coup. A few people will be like "yeah, no shit Sherlock" but many people still don't know about it.

Your comments gentleman, is there something I've missed?

The good news is the mining difficulty of Bitcoin cash will soon rise massively so they cannot sustain it for long.

This only shows the reason why bitcoin cash showed sudden increase, its really oragnises and probably pre-planned. This only proves that bitcoin cash is bubble and not in stable position. I would not be surprise sewong bitcoin cash value crash in sudden. Some people possibly transferred to bitcoin cash which is a trap. Its may possibly be the reason why bitcoin showed fall in price, whales are playing with it. Im sure that bitcoin will regain its value and continue to rise even more.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
November 12, 2017, 01:24:48 PM
#47
I want to buy an important amount of BTC tomorrow (Because I also think BTC will be back in few days) - From EURO
Will I get the same problem ?

Buy it on an exchange and leave it in there for a few days while the dust settles.

I'm going to do it on Kraken tomorrow. Thank you
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
November 12, 2017, 01:19:33 PM
#46
I want to buy an important amount of BTC tomorrow (Because I also think BTC will be back in few days) - From EURO
Will I get the same problem ?

Buy it on an exchange and leave it in there for a few days while the dust settles.
legendary
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Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
November 12, 2017, 01:15:15 PM
#45
I want to buy an important amount of BTC tomorrow (Because I also think BTC will be back in few days) - From EURO
Will I get the same problem ?

It should be starting to clear up by then. Most miners will be back on the BTC chain within a few hours. You might still be in for a bit of a wait but nothing like the current one.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
November 12, 2017, 01:13:54 PM
#44
I want to buy an important amount of BTC tomorrow (Because I also think BTC will be back in few days) - From EURO
Will I get the same problem ?
legendary
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Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 12, 2017, 01:11:40 PM
#43
This whole issue once again shows that there is nothing more than a bunch of douchebags staying behind bitcoin cash. This behaviour can be easily classify as a pure scam.
All altcoins, ICOs and Bitcoin forks are created with the sole purpose of earning the creator money. That's never been a secret, but people seem to keep falling for it over and over again. First shitcoins, then ICOs, now forks, and I can't even imagine what the next step will be after easy-money-from-forks runs out.

Shouldn't BTC be taking some emergency measure and decrease mining difficulty significantly temporarily for a start?
That would mean a hard fork. Considering it takes them years already to simply increase capacity, this won't happen overnight.

Not sure anyone can really do anything about people maliciously spamming the network can they? Genuinely asking.
A very simple solution would be larger blocks: if someone is willing to pay millions of dollars to spam the network: let them, and profit from it!
Currently all Bitcoin users pay much more in fees, all users have to wait much longer, and the only winners are miners.

If you check Bittrex earlier, it is very evident that the rise of BCH was merely staged and coordinated. Nothing was natural, all of it were just made for the money and not to actually support BCH. Charts would tell you that.
I think I shortly saw a 6000 Bitcoin sell wall, that's $36 million worth of Bitcoin Cash! Pump and dump is designed to make very rich whales much richer again, as the little guys start panic selling and panic buying.

Glad to see I've not gone nuts, I think if you're Bittrex and very rich and powerful people say "I want your help pumping BCH" you make it happen, that's just my gut feeling. There's no way to prove it so I'm not gonna say for sure they're in on it, it's just highly suspicious to me that now is the only time I have this problem where I can't dump a coin for BTC.
I didn't use Bittrex today, so I didn't encounter a glitch, but Bittrex earns 0.25% of trades. At $1 billion trade volume, that's $2.5 million, and probably another $2.5 million for the other party involved in the same trades.
One way or another, exchanges love pump and dump actions!
sr. member
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November 12, 2017, 01:09:38 PM
#42
Yes this is all a pre-planned game that is been played by a few of the people. They are trying to dump bitcoin but it will not happen. Bitcoin will once again come back to it's original price value. They are trying to push bitcoin and pump BCH. This is all due to these few greedy people miners who want to make more money with BCH.
They first tried to speculate bitcoin price but couldn't get their goal because people are in the favour of bitcoin, so now they are trying this other running walking to accomplish their goals.
I am glad to you for sharing this piece of information and letting many people be aware of the new tricks of the greedy miners.
newbie
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November 12, 2017, 01:08:05 PM
#41
Probably that is the reason behind the recent rise in BCH price what you have illustrated in your thread. That's an pre-planned and organized attack from the mining pools who have ceased bitcoin mining and promoting BCH. So the price of BCH is running high on bubble and is not sustainable. Looking at the market cap increase of BCH, it is understandable that many people are investing in BCH to make some quick bucks. That will not run for long. Also the bitcoin price is quite low at this point and I believe we will get back a lot of investment in bitcoin because it's an opportunity for the people to buy bitcoin at a lower price. So bitcoin will remain the best for longer term, BCH is rising its price unethically that has to end someday.  
That sounds like a reasonable analysis of the situation. 
newbie
Activity: 14
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November 12, 2017, 01:07:03 PM
#40
I also have two transactions with 0 confirmation
What to do ? Wait ? Huh

Yes, unless you want to buy Bitcoin Cash to pay a ransom to get your BTC...

...but there's also the Reddit link I posted above, he helped me.

But with Coinbase I don't see Tx....
I saw that if transaction is not done after 24h coinbase refund, right ?

Thanks
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
November 12, 2017, 01:01:40 PM
#39
there's services asking for Bitcoin cash to confirm Bitcoin transactions in the case of https://pushtx.btc.com/ (try it for yourself).

I did not notice that before. That's so brazen it's almost funny.

This attack is so goddamned insulting that I cannot see how it could ever hope to succeed. They're building hate, not goodwill. If they want to 'win' then all they need to be is better, not absolute pricks.

Humans in general don't take too kindly to being told what to do, Bitcoiners even more so.

Yeah, all involved or those I suspect but can't prove are on my shitlist, I don't have more than a few BTC but it's leaving Bittrex for sure.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
November 12, 2017, 12:59:24 PM
#38
there's services asking for Bitcoin cash to confirm Bitcoin transactions in the case of https://pushtx.btc.com/ (try it for yourself).

I did not notice that before. That's so brazen it's almost funny.

This attack is so goddamned insulting that I cannot see how it could ever hope to succeed. They're building hate, not goodwill. If they want to 'win' then all they need to be is better, not absolute pricks.

I genuinely cannot think of a time when they haven't been absolute pricks. The psychology is sub playground.

Humans in general don't take too kindly to being told what to do, Bitcoiners even less so.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
November 12, 2017, 12:55:42 PM
#37
I did not hear this news about the million dollar transaction stunt ,it is a terrible stunt pulled off by the whale,i wish he losses his coins so that he wont dare to do such stunts to stifle the network,Lee and Roger had an open bet about which network will be the leader in the future and with the cancellation of the fork the default winner is Lee i guess ,will he honor that bet. Grin What ever it may be the present situation is really frustrating for everyone and it will drive people away from bitcoin.

Yeah it's bad, we will all lose if they keep it up. They are trying to kill the goose that laid the golden egg for the chance of more money. Short-sighted greed, same old story.
hero member
Activity: 3052
Merit: 651
November 12, 2017, 12:53:18 PM
#36
Thank God someone still understands what is happening.
We bitcoin holders dont even need to spread FUD to make bitcoin grow again.
We just let it be because we know it will not take much time and all this shit will stop.
Then we go back to our normal threads.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
November 12, 2017, 12:50:30 PM
#35
I also have two transactions with 0 confirmation
What to do ? Wait ? Huh

Yes, unless you want to buy Bitcoin Cash to pay a ransom to get your BTC...

...but there's also the Reddit link I posted above, he helped me.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
November 12, 2017, 12:48:25 PM
#34
Honestly, i dont really think that so many unconfirmed transactions on blockchain might mean it is an blockchain attack.
There were many times when we saw amount of unconfirmed TXID's over 100k, and in most cases that was attack indeed, like someone sending 1 satoshi per transaction few thousand times.
However we just had the all time high price of the bitcoin, so in my opinion it is mostly happening because the price was over 7000$ and it got down a lot in a short amount of time: so people started to panic and move/sell their btcs: what is the reason of such a big increase in amount of TXID's.

No, the reason is some of the pools temporarily switched  their hashing power, read up on it, some of these guy are true believers in BCH and have even burnt money to promote it.

https://www.coindesk.com/miners-mining-bitcoin-cash-losing-money/
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
November 12, 2017, 12:42:16 PM
#33
Btw, if like me you had a stuck transaction this fella is kindly helping to clear some for free, I have my money now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7cebtu/unconfirmed_transactions_put_your_tx_in_reply_and/
full member
Activity: 157
Merit: 100
November 12, 2017, 12:38:47 PM
#32
Honestly, i dont really think that so many unconfirmed transactions on blockchain might mean it is an blockchain attack.
There were many times when we saw amount of unconfirmed TXID's over 100k, and in most cases that was attack indeed, like someone sending 1 satoshi per transaction few thousand times.
However we just had the all time high price of the bitcoin, so in my opinion it is mostly happening because the price was over 7000$ and it got down a lot in a short amount of time: so people started to panic and move/sell their btcs: what is the reason of such a big increase in amount of TXID's.
hero member
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Have Fun )@@( Stay Safe
November 12, 2017, 12:38:09 PM
#31
I did not hear this news about the million dollar transaction stunt ,it is a terrible stunt pulled off by the whale,i wish he losses his coins so that he wont dare to do such stunts to stifle the network,Lee and Roger had an open bet about which network will be the leader in the future and with the cancellation of the fork the default winner is Lee i guess ,will he honor that bet. Grin What ever it may be the present situation is really frustrating for everyone and it will drive people away from bitcoin.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
November 12, 2017, 12:34:03 PM
#30
Very unfortunate now one of my favorite alt coins is at a low price. I do not think that this will take for long though. it will probably done within in the next 12 hours but I am curious what will happen in the next 24 hours though! how much will it go down and how many FUD's will sell. Time will tell I guess.

Roger Ver and Jian Wu are trying to make bitcoin cash dominant market. They directly try to make bitcoin cash price manipulation. And none of the traders will be fooled by them. Their money is not unlimited, but for sure, they multiplied their reserve money with the last bitcoin cash rise. I hope they live the same bad action planned by other coins' teams.
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