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legendary
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April 17, 2019, 09:10:25 AM
#48
Religion is one of the world greatest problem today and our religious leaders have contributed to this problems with they selfish desire for wealth rather then helping the people spiritual life's and also causing separation between different religions in the world there by causing war and crisis in the world today. In fact most of the spiritual leaders take the money from they poor congregation to build schools the children of those poor members can not afford the money to attend.

We have many different people in the world.
Some of them are good and some are bad.
So, in the same way, you can't say that all religious people or pastors are good or all of them are bad.
You should judge each individual based on his/her actions, not based on concepts and prejudices.
Yes, we have corruption in the church and many other problems but also we have many great priests who are sacrificing helping poor and sick in Africa for example, volunteering in the humanitarian organizations, hospitals etc.
Also, through their faith and church service they are giving hope and life to the many people.
This is not a simple story and has a lot of different layers.
   
legendary
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April 17, 2019, 01:12:20 AM
#47
The Christian persecution is starting all over again. Time for Christians to set up their own means of doing business.


Baptist Pastor Says Bank of America Shut Down All Of His Church's Bank Accounts



Pastor Steven Anderson of the Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona said Monday on YouTube that Bank of America shut down all the bank accounts of his church.

“This morning, I found out that Bank of America shut down all of our bank accounts froze our accounts without notice and we can’t even get our money out,” Anderson said on YouTube. “We can’t even walk into the bank and withdraw our money they just froze everything, shut everything down.”

“They’re supposedly going to send us a cashier’s check in like two weeks for all the money that was in our church bank account but in the meantime they just took all our money away,” Anderson said.

Anderson has attracted controversy over the years due to his fundamentalist preachings on homosexuality.


Go to Hell, Bank of America!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=B5R3yQqDd9Q



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April 16, 2019, 05:35:30 PM
#46
I totally agree with you on this. Churches of nowadays only recognize “active church members” i.e those who pay their tithes and offering everytime.
He wants to see his name on their bulletin board with the amount he has given. And if the church he attended didn't have that sort of info on where the tithes and offerings goes, he won't give there but instead to the other church that has that kind of recognition although he attends there.
Religion is now a business in Africa, most especially here in Nigeria. You will always see churches in every 5-10 minutes walk.
I was listening to a sermon on radio yesterday and the preacher was saying that it's very bad for a church member to be using 4 cars while his pastors has none. I don't know why some men of God always feel entitled to part of people's wealth. They are adding to the economic crisis by extorting money from their church members. Because they know that once they cook up a story like “buy this anointing oil, it will make your dreams come true”, that's when you see them auctioning for the anointing oil. The highest bidder gets the offer.
Sad to hear about that, I've known pastors and preachers who doesn't even preach those words.

Like what they are preaching, they are also practicing faith. As they've said, God will provide and will certainly do the same thing for them but without standing in the pulpit and telling that it is convenient for them to have cars to preach to other places. There's always a way to commute to preach the gospel but that's really a clear thing that we can understand what that pastor want.

With that annointing oil, I already seen one like that before in my country and it's really pure business.
legendary
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April 15, 2019, 05:50:56 PM
#45
It seems religious segregation is not helping the progress of the world. Many  leaders claim to be Christians but it's funny how greedy they are in reality. Some churches are also making matters worse. For instance some churches in the major cities are obviously for the rich in society only, from all intentions and indications, the less privileged are not welcomed. Honestly, If you don't have money, you are seen as a nuisance in those kind of churches believed to be for the elite in the society.  I thought christianity is about love. 
Those Church practicing that are not the church of Christ.  Many of this religion organizations are just bearing Christian but there are not.  Christianity is about love,  justice, mercy and good deed and most of the big churches we do hear there names has no of this.

You forgot the biggest thing that Christianity is all about. It's the saving of souls for life in Heaven following the judgment. Salvation includes those other things, but they are of lesser importance than salvation.

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April 15, 2019, 01:44:26 PM
#44
It seems religious segregation is not helping the progress of the world. Many  leaders claim to be Christians but it's funny how greedy they are in reality. Some churches are also making matters worse. For instance some churches in the major cities are obviously for the rich in society only, from all intentions and indications, the less privileged are not welcomed. Honestly, If you don't have money, you are seen as a nuisance in those kind of churches believed to be for the elite in the society.  I thought christianity is about love. 
Those Church practicing that are not the church of Christ.  Many of this religion organizations are just bearing Christian but there are not.  Christianity is about love,  justice, mercy and good deed and most of the big churches we do hear there names has no of this.
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April 15, 2019, 07:30:23 AM
#43
Religion is one of the world greatest problem today and our religious leaders have contributed to this problems with they selfish desire for wealth rather then helping the people spiritual life's and also causing separation between different religions in the world there by causing war and crisis in the world today. In fact most of the spiritual leaders take the money from they poor congregation to build schools the children of those poor members can not afford the money to attend.
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April 15, 2019, 02:08:16 AM
#42
I totally agree with you on this. Churches of nowadays only recognize “active church members” i.e those who pay their tithes and offering everytime.
He wants to see his name on their bulletin board with the amount he has given. And if the church he attended didn't have that sort of info on where the tithes and offerings goes, he won't give there but instead to the other church that has that kind of recognition although he attends there.
Religion is now a business in Africa, most especially here in Nigeria. You will always see churches in every 5-10 minutes walk.
I was listening to a sermon on radio yesterday and the preacher was saying that it's very bad for a church member to be using 4 cars while his pastors has none. I don't know why some men of God always feel entitled to part of people's wealth. They are adding to the economic crisis by extorting money from their church members. Because they know that once they cook up a story like “buy this anointing oil, it will make your dreams come true”, that's when you see them auctioning for the anointing oil. The highest bidder gets the offer.
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April 14, 2019, 11:29:46 PM
#41
I totally agree with you on this. Churches of nowadays only recognize “active church members” i.e those who pay their tithes and offering everytime.
It adds pride to the members, I've known a person that told a friend of ours that he would love to attend to a church that would recognize his tithes and offerings.

He wants to see his name on their bulletin board with the amount he has given. And if the church he attended didn't have that sort of info on where the tithes and offerings goes, he won't give there but instead to the other church that has that kind of recognition although he attends there.
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April 14, 2019, 05:41:46 PM
#40
Religion is a tool handed down to people by their guardians. This tool helps guide them through life's tough times, through the good lessons they learn. They learn these lessons through stories and other methods.

This is just the way I see things, but people seem to be learning less about things like self-worth these days.
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April 14, 2019, 04:34:33 PM
#39
I totally agree with you on this. Churches of nowadays only recognize “active church members” i.e those who pay their tithes and offering everytime.
This happens not only in churches, the Muslims here in my country also practice this corrupt act. I don't know of other countries.
One has be careful of his/her place of worship, or else, our religious leaders will scam us all in the name of God. Most of them are just wolf under sheep clothing.
legendary
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February 27, 2019, 08:01:29 PM
#38
Everything can be turned into something "evil" and use it to getting things, same with churches gaining riches and leaving their mission behind or people hiding behind religion to be seen as "good".

However, once I was told that I shouldn't judge religion by the people who claim to follow it but what it originally tried to teach. In the end, all people have flaws and everyone has their own understanding of the religion they believe in or say they believe in...

All religion that is anything important has solid religious ethics and morals. Compare the people to the morals and ethics of their religion.

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jr. member
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February 27, 2019, 08:09:06 AM
#37
Everything can be turned into something "evil" and use it to getting things, same with churches gaining riches and leaving their mission behind or people hiding behind religion to be seen as "good".

However, once I was told that I shouldn't judge religion by the people who claim to follow it but what it originally tried to teach. In the end, all people have flaws and everyone has their own understanding of the religion they believe in or say they believe in...
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February 27, 2019, 06:43:03 AM
#36
It seems religious segregation is not helping the progress of the world. Many  leaders claim to be Christians but it's funny how greedy they are in reality. Some churches are also making matters worse. For instance some churches in the major cities are obviously for the rich in society only, from all intentions and indications, the less privileged are not welcomed. Honestly, If you don't have money, you are seen as a nuisance in those kind of churches believed to be for the elite in the society.  I thought christianity is about love.  
Religion must be love and respect. Religion is not exclusive to the rich only. God is looking at our hearts and our actions not for anything else .. The money also spoils the souls .
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February 24, 2019, 04:13:27 AM
#35
It seems religious segregation is not helping the progress of the world. Many  leaders claim to be Christians but it's funny how greedy they are in reality. Some churches are also making matters worse. For instance some churches in the major cities are obviously for the rich in society only, from all intentions and indications, the less privileged are not welcomed. Honestly, If you don't have money, you are seen as a nuisance in those kind of churches believed to be for the elite in the society.  I thought christianity is about love. 
oh christians are not different in this regard than other groups, muslims are even more capitalist in my oppinion than christians.
Really, how is that possible? From my observation, Muslims seems to be more of socialist than capitalists. A classical example of this can be seen in how most Islamic republics are ruled in different parts of  the world.
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February 10, 2019, 01:17:34 AM
#34
Well the Christian agents here in India are only concentrating people to their religion. It is going at huge pace in Kerala and in suburbs. Even media outlet here are governed by Christian people. So these things dont come to light and so these activities are gathering a lot pace every day. Donations comes from NGO's and Church.
legendary
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February 08, 2019, 04:43:59 PM
#33
It seems religious segregation is not helping the progress of the world. Many  leaders claim to be Christians but it's funny how greedy they are in reality. Some churches are also making matters worse. For instance some churches in the major cities are obviously for the rich in society only, from all intentions and indications, the less privileged are not welcomed. Honestly, If you don't have money, you are seen as a nuisance in those kind of churches believed to be for the elite in the society.  I thought christianity is about love. 
In recent time I have begins to have mix feelings about religion in general and I believe that religion does not really change the people and in most cases religion make the worst and at that instead of they religion to shape the act religion is now use to defend they wrong doing, take example with our political leaders today the do all manner of inhuman act and yet still goes to the worship place to deceive the people.

Sounds like an interesting religion you have there. No wonder you have mixed feelings. You are associating with others of religions like yours.

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February 08, 2019, 10:55:49 AM
#32
It seems religious segregation is not helping the progress of the world. Many  leaders claim to be Christians but it's funny how greedy they are in reality. Some churches are also making matters worse. For instance some churches in the major cities are obviously for the rich in society only, from all intentions and indications, the less privileged are not welcomed. Honestly, If you don't have money, you are seen as a nuisance in those kind of churches believed to be for the elite in the society.  I thought christianity is about love. 
In recent time I have begins to have mix feelings about religion in general and I believe that religion does not really change the people and in most cases religion make the worst and at that instead of they religion to shape the act religion is now use to defend they wrong doing, take example with our political leaders today the do all manner of inhuman act and yet still goes to the worship place to deceive the people.
legendary
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February 07, 2019, 07:11:37 PM
#31

...Every fruit tree in nature that produces good fruit, also has overripe fruit that is not good. They all have a chunk of bad fruit at times. Some of them have mostly bad fruit.

...James says that nobody can tame the tongue.

You are using a small section of a contextual writing and applying your own ideas, and thereby displacing the original meaning. This practice is as old as the mountains and of course it will go on forever. I do not condemn or judge you for applying bits and pieces of writing to support your own ideas.
LOL! There you go, taking a chunk of what I said out of context... a practice as old as the mountains.


The context of the writing you refer to, is one where even if you disguise yourself as the real McCoy, but you are not, you can not "outstrip" - so to speak - your true nature. If you are a thorn or a thistle, but pretend to be a grape vine or a fig tree, it will show.
Jesus said what He said for whatever purpose. This doesn't mean that there are NOT other meanings that can be correctly applied to what He said, and that circumstances regarding things that He said are the only thing that was happening.

For example, many people fail to realize that Jesus spent something like 3 years in his ministry, and that during 3 years it is easy for a person to say the same things over and over many times, plus a lot of things that didn't get recorded. What? Do you think that the only things that Jesus ever said are the things that are written in the Bible?

Another example: When God created the earth, direct talk in detail about every blade of grass was never uttered in the Bible. This doesn't mean that each blade of grass never had its own individuality as a blade of grass, but rather that such detail was never recorded in the Bible... same said most of the rest of the individual details of the universe.

You need to realize that Jesus was living a life that largely was not recorded, and see how things fit together in His life in the ways that were not recorded.



Btw, overripe fruit are the sweetest and tastiest; try overripe bananas next time you bake banana bread, it is truly at least three times as tasty as average ripe bananas.
Depends on how overripe they get. Did you ever hear of the word "rotten?"



Also, if Paul of the bible to be considered a Saint, is James not to be considered one too?


My reference to Saint Paul as such was simply to show that I was talking about Saint Paul of the Bible. Many people recognize the Bible when they see the words "Saint Paul." Then, once they realize we are in the Bible, talking about the writers of the epistles of the N.T., James is understood as one of them. If you are more comfortable with Saint James, fine.

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February 07, 2019, 03:00:42 PM
#30

...Every fruit tree in nature that produces good fruit, also has overripe fruit that is not good. They all have a chunk of bad fruit at times. Some of them have mostly bad fruit.

...James says that nobody can tame the tongue.

You are using a small section of a contextual writing and applying your own ideas, and thereby displacing the original meaning. This practice is as old as the mountains and of course it will go on forever. I do not condemn or judge you for applying bits and pieces of writing to support your own ideas. The context of the writing you refer to, is one where even if you disguise yourself as the real McCoy, but you are not, you can not "outstrip" - so to speak - your true nature. If you are a thorn or a thistle, but pretend to be a grape vine or a fig tree, it will show.

Btw, overripe fruit are the sweetest and tastiest; try overripe bananas next time you bake banana bread, it is truly at least three times as tasty as average ripe bananas.

Also, if Paul of the bible to be considered a Saint, is James not to be considered one too?

legendary
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February 07, 2019, 09:54:55 AM
#29
So, you have studied the Bible, especially the New Testament, and done a detailed comparison between Christians and their activities, and the Bible, right?

So, what is it that makes a person a Christian?

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Today's 'Christianity' is an abominable hybrid of paganism which breeds on the emotions of people. Do you disagree?



In law silence is generally considered as agreement.

So i take it that you agree ^^

How can I agree when you haven't defined a Christian? Bible Christianity is different than secular Christianity. You can't lump people together by one word.

Biblically speaking, paganism isn't Christianity. A pagan can be called a Christian all the way to Hell, but that doesn't make him a Christian.

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I thought i did define what it means to be Christian.

I said "To be a Christian is to put Jesus and His teachings above ALL things. Especially above the traditions of man and of this world."

Not sure what 'secular Christianity' is. But there is only one type of Christianity. And that is to believe and do what Jesus said and taught.
Anything else is paganism disguised as Christianity.

And i agree, paganism isn't Christianity. And thats exactly why the majority of todays Christianity isn't Christianity at all seeing as 95% of all Christians celebrate the pagan festivals of Xmas and Easter and 99% celebrate birthdays. Just because people dont want to research the origins, in fear of losing their annual emotional fix in the process, doesnt make the practise non-pagan all of a sudden. That is hypocrisy at its finest.


Christianity is about Jesus salvation. There are many people who do not understand this, but use the word "Christianity" with regard to themselves or others who don't have Jesus salvation in mind at all. Even the teachings of Jesus, if they don't include Jesus salvation, can be found in many places and religions, although not combined as Jesus combined them.

If you have a saved Christian who does not follow the law perfectly, does this mean that he is not a Christian? By their fruits you will know them. But judging them without finding out their fruits that show their faith, is itself a fruit of evil.

Take a look at a fruit tree. Every fruit tree in nature that produces good fruit, also has overripe fruit that is not good. They all have a chunk of bad fruit at times. Some of them have mostly bad fruit. Mixed good and bad fruit in Christians does not necessarily show their salvation faith. After all, even Saint Paul says that it is the wise of this age who are rejecting faith, but it is many of the sinful who are turning to faith.

If you are a bad person and an unbeliever, and you come to faith, does it mean that you will live the perfect life ever after? Of course not. True Christians still us bad language. James says that nobody can tame the tongue. There is an easily seen Christian flaw that many saved Christians have... although they have reduced their bad language usage.

The point is, don't condemn Christians for not being perfect. Yet, when they do bad things, keep yourself from doing the bad things. And if it is in your power to show them their mistakes, do so. That's when you will find out if they believe in Jesus salvation or not.

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