Topic: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament - page 11. (Read 2745 times)
Iran vs France later.
Iran is clear the underdog here. I placed a fun bet for them as they are eager to get a win before being eliminated.
France already secures a slot next round so they don't need to force a win against Iran. It's expected that they will sideline or minimize the playing time of their stars to keep them healthy the next round. A "slight advantage" for Iran as France bench players are also good.
The USA now is not anymore a dream team, they are not composed of the best players in the NBA so other national teams has a big chance of beating them. They lose against France and we know France is not even the top favorite to win, so will see with their upcoming games.
They are still composed of the best players in the NBA. That's the issue as always as because it's "TEAM USA" they are expected to always win.
It's not with the USA itself but other countries are improving. Can we just give credit to those countries that beat the USA (2 in the exhibition, 1 in the preliminary) instead of saying the current US team is not the same as before why they lose? That was discrediting the effort of other countries.
Understand that, but sorry I just have to be biased as I really believe that the old lineup is better than the current. Of course, we give credit to those who can beat the team USA, but we cannot hide our opinion regarding the current roster. I also have the same feeling when a good team loses in the NBA playoffs, like, the Lakers loss because Davis was injured.
The USA is currently really far away from being a dream team like they once were. A lot of huge players didnt come to the olympics and they are left with superstars from weaker NBA teams i see a lot of other countries making a bigger impact for the best medals
They are still composed of the best players in the NBA. That's the issue as always as because it's "TEAM USA" they are expected to always win.
It's not with the USA itself but other countries are improving. Can we just give credit to those countries that beat the USA (2 in the exhibition, 1 in the preliminary) instead of saying the current US team is not the same as before why they lose? That was discrediting the effort of other countries.
Understand that, but sorry I just have to be biased as I really believe that the old lineup is better than the current. Of course, we give credit to those who can beat the team USA, but we cannot hide our opinion regarding the current roster. I also have the same feeling when a good team loses in the NBA playoffs, like, the Lakers loss because Davis was injured. It's not with the USA itself but other countries are improving. Can we just give credit to those countries that beat the USA (2 in the exhibition, 1 in the preliminary) instead of saying the current US team is not the same as before why they lose? That was discrediting the effort of other countries.
However in a roster where you do not even have Lebron and Curry, just those two additions to this team would have turned this team into an insanity, add in a few more and you got yourself a team that nobody can even imagine to stop.
Now they have Durant and that is great and cool, but Durant lost to Giannis in NBA itself, which means all by himself Durant means nothing, Dame have failed to move above first round for nearly a decade man, so I really think that this wasn't the "best NBA players" at all, there are few I would keep, but I would probably change like 8 players with better ones if given the option.
The USA now is not anymore a dream team, they are not composed of the best players in the NBA so other national teams has a big chance of beating them. They lose against France and we know France is not even the top favorite to win, so will see with their upcoming games.
They are still composed of the best players in the NBA. That's the issue as always as because it's "TEAM USA" they are expected to always win.
It's not with the USA itself but other countries are improving. Can we just give credit to those countries that beat the USA (2 in the exhibition, 1 in the preliminary) instead of saying the current US team is not the same as before why they lose? That was discrediting the effort of other countries.
Understand that, but sorry I just have to be biased as I really believe that the old lineup is better than the current. Of course, we give credit to those who can beat the team USA, but we cannot hide our opinion regarding the current roster. I also have the same feeling when a good team loses in the NBA playoffs, like, the Lakers loss because Davis was injured.
Yes, the biggest test for US is to face a good team with NBA players. Not discounting Iran, but they are only good in the Asian region, so it's not a good yardstick to say how good team USA because they have lost already. In their group is Czech Republic, so this is a good test for team in the next game to see if they really blend already. And this is a make or break for US, they don't have the luxury to lose this one.
They need to blend and realize that carrying each other inside the court is very important stop passing
the ball and aggressively attack the basket, that loss with France shown weakness with the team efforts.
In fairness to them after that loss, beating Iran with very high deficits, good enough to bring the winning streak back to their system.
What do you think about the level of the teams in these Olympics? I realize at these olympics in Japan, the teams are very balanced.
Do you believe the USA team level dropped a lot? Or was it the level of the other teams that increased?
They just beat Iran, and they showed power by beating them with a wide margin but this team already have three losses including the exhibition games, we will only know this if they face another strong team again like the Czech Republic, Spain, or Slovenia, they have the momentum now they are now blending well but well only know if they can handle the pressure against a strong team from other groups.
Yes, the biggest test for US is to face a good team with NBA players. Not discounting Iran, but they are only good in the Asian region, so it's not a good yardstick to say how good team USA because they have lost already. In their group is Czech Republic, so this is a good test for team in the next game to see if they really blend already. And this is a make or break for US, they don't have the luxury to lose this one.
Well, USA will not give up their goal to win the gold easily, they have been dominating so the current roster will have a bad reputation if they lose. According to the betting odds, it looks like it's another easy win by the USA.
The current odds are;
ML - USA 1.01 / Czech Republic 20.00
Point spread is -22.5 for the USA.
What do you think about the level of the teams in these Olympics? I realize at these olympics in Japan, the teams are very balanced.
Do you believe the USA team level dropped a lot? Or was it the level of the other teams that increased?
They just beat Iran, and they showed power by beating them with a wide margin but this team already have three losses including the exhibition games, we will only know this if they face another strong team again like the Czech Republic, Spain, or Slovenia, they have the momentum now they are now blending well but well only know if they can handle the pressure against a strong team from other groups.
Yes, the biggest test for US is to face a good team with NBA players. Not discounting Iran, but they are only good in the Asian region, so it's not a good yardstick to say how good team USA because they have lost already. In their group is Czech Republic, so this is a good test for team in the next game to see if they really blend already. And this is a make or break for US, they don't have the luxury to lose this one.
What do you think about the level of the teams in these Olympics? I realize at these olympics in Japan, the teams are very balanced.
Do you believe the USA team level dropped a lot? Or was it the level of the other teams that increased?
They just beat Iran, and they showed power by beating them with a wide margin but this team already have three losses including the exhibition games, we will only know this if they face another strong team again like the Czech Republic, Spain, or Slovenia, they have the momentum now they are now blending well but well only know if they can handle the pressure against a strong team from other groups.
Team USA although is not perfect in this tournament, they are still the favorite to win the gold, they have to win the succeeding games and thus far, they showed how good they are and probably they already learned from their big mistake in the first game.
next game will be on July 31, 2021
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What do you think about the level of the teams in these Olympics? I realize at these olympics in Japan, the teams are very balanced.
Do you believe the USA team level dropped a lot? Or was it the level of the other teams that increased?
They just beat Iran, and they showed power by beating them with a wide margin but this team already have three losses including the exhibition games, we will only know this if they face another strong team again like the Czech Republic, Spain, or Slovenia, they have the momentum now they are now blending well but well only know if they can handle the pressure against a strong team from other groups.
I was thinking to myself...
What do you think about the level of the teams in these Olympics? I realize at these olympics in Japan, the teams are very balanced.
Do you believe the USA team level dropped a lot? Or was it the level of the other teams that increased?
By the way, did Luka receive any punishment for participating in a clandestine party? Or nothing happened?
What do you think about the level of the teams in these Olympics? I realize at these olympics in Japan, the teams are very balanced.
Do you believe the USA team level dropped a lot? Or was it the level of the other teams that increased?
By the way, did Luka receive any punishment for participating in a clandestine party? Or nothing happened?
The USA now is not anymore a dream team, they are not composed of the best players in the NBA so other national teams has a big chance of beating them. They lose against France and we know France is not even the top favorite to win, so will see with their upcoming games.
They are still composed of the best players in the NBA. That's the issue as always as because it's "TEAM USA" they are expected to always win.
It's not with the USA itself but other countries are improving. Can we just give credit to those countries that beat the USA (2 in the exhibition, 1 in the preliminary) instead of saying the current US team is not the same as before why they lose? That was discrediting the effort of other countries.
Still mad at them since we can't see Lebron 
Mate, you have to understand that he's graduate from that although he can still play. At 36 years of age, he's now more of keeping his body to stay healthy to keep up with the NBA regular season. I understand they should play for the country and it's a call of duty but the NBA has a wide variety of players that are always ready to play for them.
I'd rather see players in their prime rather than hire the service of a post-prime player and now reaching the veteran level.
It was a blowout win, sorry man, just bounce back next time.
Slovenia has proven that they are too much against Japan, and Luka still had another great game in this run.
Maybe it's not a good idea to bet against Slovenia, Luka is too hard to handle.
Yeah, that was a sad choice. Slovenia has proven that they are too much against Japan, and Luka still had another great game in this run.
Maybe it's not a good idea to bet against Slovenia, Luka is too hard to handle.
I thought it really looked good at +18.5 but damn Luka just keeps on getting better and better. I am going underdog again with Nigeria ML versus Italy for tomorrow.
They played well against the Germans in a close game. While the Germans also lose against Italy but just at 4th quarter. All are close games so I think there's still a chance for Nigeria to win it. Fingers crossed. They are also hungry to obtain at least 1 win.
Tomorrow team USA will play again and to be honest it is the only team besides Italy I care about.
Still shocked at how they lost their 1st game, now they need to win the last game or they will be out it is most unlikely but who knows.
Still mad at them since we can't see Lebron
I think he never played in the games while some other athletes do everything they can to be there.
Still shocked at how they lost their 1st game, now they need to win the last game or they will be out it is most unlikely but who knows.
Still mad at them since we can't see Lebron
I think he never played in the games while some other athletes do everything they can to be there.
Lebron already did his part, he already brings gold to the country, and he is not getting any younger so the NBA is just giving their young players who are also capable and still hungry at the same time. I'm sure USA will win in their next game.
Tomorrow team USA will play again and to be honest it is the only team besides Italy I care about.
Still shocked at how they lost their 1st game, now they need to win the last game or they will be out it is most unlikely but who knows.
Still mad at them since we can't see Lebron
I think he never played in the games while some other athletes do everything they can to be there.
Still shocked at how they lost their 1st game, now they need to win the last game or they will be out it is most unlikely but who knows.
Still mad at them since we can't see Lebron
I think he never played in the games while some other athletes do everything they can to be there.
This thread just caught a virus from Luka's magical smile. Ain't there anything else?
How about Luis Scola with his silvered-haired grandpa look making the 4th rank of all-time total leading scorer in the Olympics Men's Basketball with 548 points
Above him at 3rd place is Pau Gasol (Spain active) with 623 points. 2nd is Andrew Gaze (Australia) 789 and Oscar Schmidt (Brazil) at the top 1093 points.
I really enjoyed watching Spain - Argentina game, 41 old grandpas Gasol and Scola playing at highest level. The Last Dance.How about Luis Scola with his silvered-haired grandpa look making the 4th rank of all-time total leading scorer in the Olympics Men's Basketball with 548 points
Above him at 3rd place is Pau Gasol (Spain active) with 623 points. 2nd is Andrew Gaze (Australia) 789 and Oscar Schmidt (Brazil) at the top 1093 points.
And how good Ricky Rubio is, but because of Doncic, nobody talks about him. I remember hevwas bad at 3-pointers, but how he improved it in recent years. 5 from 6 3pt shots - performance of elite shooter.
The thing about Luka has always been about how he really enjoys it, like dude is having fun out there and that shows which means that yes he is a superstar but I think the only people I can remember really enjoying being a superstar could be Giannis or maybe Wade.
We usually do not see people who are like always smiling and all, we see the "killer mindset" type of players, MJ wasn't laughing when he played, he wanted to eat your heart, Kobe always worked before you and after you, Lebron spent millions on his body and always cried like a baby, I can continue with this but "happy"? We rarely see happy players on the court, yeah sure they are happy outside obviously, but while playing?
This is the thing about Luka, he could be the best player who enjoyed the game most, I do not think that I have seen anyone in history of this sport that played better than him while enjoying it more than him both at the same time.
We usually do not see people who are like always smiling and all, we see the "killer mindset" type of players, MJ wasn't laughing when he played, he wanted to eat your heart, Kobe always worked before you and after you, Lebron spent millions on his body and always cried like a baby, I can continue with this but "happy"? We rarely see happy players on the court, yeah sure they are happy outside obviously, but while playing?
This is the thing about Luka, he could be the best player who enjoyed the game most, I do not think that I have seen anyone in history of this sport that played better than him while enjoying it more than him both at the same time.
This thread just caught a virus from Luka's magical smile. Ain't there anything else?
How about Luis Scola with his silvered-haired grandpa look making the 4th rank of all-time total leading scorer in the Olympics Men's Basketball with 548 points
Above him at 3rd place is Pau Gasol (Spain active) with 623 points. 2nd is Andrew Gaze (Australia) 789 and Oscar Schmidt (Brazil) at the top 1093 points.
How about Luis Scola with his silvered-haired grandpa look making the 4th rank of all-time total leading scorer in the Olympics Men's Basketball with 548 points
Above him at 3rd place is Pau Gasol (Spain active) with 623 points. 2nd is Andrew Gaze (Australia) 789 and Oscar Schmidt (Brazil) at the top 1093 points.
If Luka's teammate will step up, there's a possibility that they can beat the USA even by 50/50.
Team USA already knows how Luka played, obviously because of lots of meetings in the NBA, and they already have tactics to contain him if ever they will face each other.
That's the time now for Luka's teammates to adjust. But before thinking that possible scenario, let's see who wins first on their respective stages.
Yeah, Doncic shows great performance at these Olympic games, and I would like to see Slovenia against the USA in the final match of this tournament. However, it's worth noting that the USA was almost always the favorite at the Olympic Games, and last time they did not win gold medals only in 2004. Team USA already knows how Luka played, obviously because of lots of meetings in the NBA, and they already have tactics to contain him if ever they will face each other.
That's the time now for Luka's teammates to adjust. But before thinking that possible scenario, let's see who wins first on their respective stages.
Looks like the other national teams have more impact than the current USA team. Just look how Luka making names in this tournament where they dominated every opponent that comes on their way. Another good basketball play we are seeing here is if we are just focusing on one team. A lot of greatness especially for the recent wins of Slovenia, Luka Magic still continues.
Luka's sensation is still felt, lol.. The USA now is not anymore a dream team, they are not composed of the best players in the NBA so other national teams has a big chance of beating them. They lose against France and we know France is not even the top favorite to win, so will see with their upcoming games.
IMO, Team USA is still the best but only other teams have caught up with them. Luka is good, no question about that but he can't do it alone and carry his team into the Finals sooner or later they will lose to a more complete team. This achievement of Luka is good enough for him to become the hero of his country when he comes home.
Looks like the other national teams have more impact than the current USA team. Just look how Luka making names in this tournament where they dominated every opponent that comes on their way. Another good basketball play we are seeing here is if we are just focusing on one team. A lot of greatness especially for the recent wins of Slovenia, Luka Magic still continues.
Luka's sensation is still felt, lol.. The USA now is not anymore a dream team, they are not composed of the best players in the NBA so other national teams has a big chance of beating them. They lose against France and we know France is not even the top favorite to win, so will see with their upcoming games.
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