Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament - page 15.

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Quote from: gagux123 on July 25, 2021, 10:45:43 PM

I confess that, I was surprised with the US defeat, despite not having their best players, the US has a good team, maybe even better than France, (if we look at the team roster)

But I still believe the US has potential to win in 1st place.

Oh, they will win this, I don't think that 1 defeat is going to be a problem for them. It's a surprising defeat but it's not a damning one since they can still play another game.

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Quote from: goinmerry on July 25, 2021, 10:35:53 PM

France winning against the Team USA really surprises everyone. What's the odds by the way for the Team France here?

And just to clarify to others, Team USA still has a shot at the Gold medal. They just need to settle a win the next time as every win is necessary at their group.

Seeing them losing is kinda rare but I agree with what Fournier said in the interview that "They are better individually but they can be beaten as a team" LINK

Its their first loss in Olympics in 17 years that is why we are in a state where we are shocked whenever we see US team losing in the Olympics. After all, they are just like other players in other countries. They have good games and at the same time bad games. After what happened, I believe that US will bounce back in their next games. I believe in Coach Pop

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The problem with the US team is their team chemistry. Fournier is definitely right that individually, the US team is better. That is why, the US Team must be able to adapt and improve their ball rotation and trust to one another so the team could be a good oiled machine.

Imagine, the teams from the olympics have been practicing their craft as a team ever since. But in the case of US, they have been adding and adding players on the last minute which I think affected their performance as a whole.

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Quote from: goinmerry on July 25, 2021, 10:35:53 PM

France winning against the Team USA really surprises everyone. What's the odds by the way for the Team France here?

And just to clarify to others, Team USA still has a shot at the Gold medal. They just need to settle a win the next time as every win is necessary at their group.

Seeing them losing is kinda rare but I agree with what Fournier said in the interview that "They are better individually but they can be beaten as a team" LINK

Its their first loss in Olympics in 17 years that is why we are in a state where we are shocked whenever we see US team losing in the Olympics. After all, they are just like other players in other countries. They have good games and at the same time bad games. After what happened, I believe that US will bounce back in their next games. I believe in Coach Pop

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 25, 2021, 11:15:48 PM

Still confident the USA will make it to the semis. Well, loving the statement by Evan Fournier that they may be tough or something but with team effort from them they make to win against the former Olympic gold medalist. We're not seeing a high caliber USA team this time around looks like USA hasn't consider a good contender team.

Yes, that's an interesting point!
The USA still has a good roster, I don't know, but I still believe the USA can reach the finals, or even be champions, but for this to happen the team needs to play VERY well.

The best word I can say about the USA team is... in these Olympics the USA is a beatable team

But to know the answer, we'll need to see how the USA and otherS teams will perform in future.

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Quote from: gagux123 on July 25, 2021, 10:45:43 PM

Quote from: Saint-loup on July 25, 2021, 06:22:01 PM

Yes it's the first time they loses since 2004 in the olympic competition, to continue they need to win against the Czech Republic or Iran because only the 2 first teams of each group, and the 2 best third teams of all groups are selected for the quarter-finals.

I confess that, I was surprised with the US defeat, despite not having their best players, the US has a good team, maybe even better than France, (if we look at the team roster)

But I still believe the US has potential to win in 1st place.

Still confident the USA will make it to the semis. Well, loving the statement by Evan Fournier that they may be tough or something but with team effort from them they make to win against the former Olympic gold medalist. We're not seeing a high caliber USA team this time around looks like USA hasn't consider a good contender team.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on July 25, 2021, 06:22:01 PM

Yes it's the first time they loses since 2004 in the olympic competition, to continue they need to win against the Czech Republic or Iran because only the 2 first teams of each group, and the 2 best third teams of all groups are selected for the quarter-finals.

I confess that, I was surprised with the US defeat, despite not having their best players, the US has a good team, maybe even better than France, (if we look at the team roster)

But I still believe the US has potential to win in 1st place.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 25, 2021, 03:58:16 PM

Yeah and they really have no center presence. Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games. I hate when they build and entire team of shooters. When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.

I agree. They are likely going to be an up an down team just because a lot of their offense relies on jump shooting. Even their center Bam Adebayo relies on jumpers rather than powering his way on the paint. Also, I think the level of playmaking on this team is average. KD would have to make plays other than focusing on being a primary scorer because Dame and Jrue aren't really "true" point guards to begin with.

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France winning against the Team USA really surprises everyone. What's the odds by the way for the Team France here?

And just to clarify to others, Team USA still has a shot at the Gold medal. They just need to settle a win the next time as every win is necessary at their group.

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Quote from: smyslov on July 25, 2021, 08:34:05 PM

Quote from: Saint-loup on July 25, 2021, 06:22:01 PM

Yes it's the first time they loses since 2004 in the olympic competition, to continue they need to win against the Czech Republic or Iran because only the 2 first teams of each group, and the 2 best third teams of all groups are selected for the quarter-finals.

They still have a chance but wow this is a big blow-up for the US team they are leading on the first three quarters until they falter on the last five minutes of the game, this is heartbreaking for the US team, they are still not blending well and will have to catch up and play as a team, Durant can't carry this team alone, I hope this team will not end up as a weaker team.

A lot of key players declined to play on this Olympic and that's why they are having trouble plus their practice time together are very limited, we all know that KD is not effective alone, someone should step up and help KD. This is a big disappointment to many as defending champion, USA should do everything on their second game or else their Olympic journey will end this first round.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on July 25, 2021, 06:22:01 PM

Yes it's the first time they loses since 2004 in the olympic competition, to continue they need to win against the Czech Republic or Iran because only the 2 first teams of each group, and the 2 best third teams of all groups are selected for the quarter-finals.

They still have a chance but wow this is a big blow-up for the US team they are leading on the first three quarters until they falter on the last five minutes of the game, this is heartbreaking for the US team, they are still not blending well and will have to catch up and play as a team, Durant can't carry this team alone, I hope this team will not end up as a weaker team.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on July 25, 2021, 04:18:16 PM

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2021, 03:03:30 PM

Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking. There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others. So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team". Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease. Still hope for Gold though of course.

Yeah and they really have no center presence. Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games. I hate when they build and entire team of shooters. When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.

I'm not so familiar with the rules.

Let me ask, is this the first time the USA has lost in the competition? if they win in the succeeding games, do they still have a chance to win that gold medal?

Yes it's the first time they loses since 2004 in the olympic competition, to continue they need to win against the Czech Republic or Iran because only the 2 first teams of each group, and the 2 best third teams of all groups are selected for the quarter-finals.

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wow, i didn't know they had already created an exclusive topic for basketball at the Tokyo olympics. how i'm inattentive lol

I hope these Olympics are competitive and interesting!

By the way, does anyone know a website where I can see the lineups, scores and stats of each player?!?
Thanks

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Quote from: Harkorede on July 25, 2021, 02:23:05 PM

The fact that there will also be two best third placed team selected among the 3 groups would increase their chances of making it through, but crashing out early would be nothing short of an epic failure.

The US team like what I posted earlier are composed of great individual players but basketball is a team sport, if they cannot blend their talent very well and get used to the amateur rules, they could be in big trouble, France showed them what it meant to play basketball together they have a good defense and good passing.
Thye still has a good chance to regroup but there are still tough teams out there like Spain and Nigeria. it will be a hard climb this time.

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Quote from: Questat on July 25, 2021, 04:47:28 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on July 25, 2021, 04:18:16 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 25, 2021, 03:58:16 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2021, 03:03:30 PM

Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking. There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others. So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team". Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease. Still hope for Gold though of course.

Yeah and they really have no center presence. Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games. I hate when they build and entire team of shooters. When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.

I'm not so familiar with the rules.

Let me ask, is this the first time the USA has lost in the competition? if they win in the succeeding games, do they still have a chance to win that gold medal?

This article might be able to help you, try to read it.

Olympic basketball bracket, explained: How group play, standings work for 2021 tournaments

USA still has a chance though, and I think they can still win the gold medal.

Yeah they can still win this just puts a lot of pressure on them as you can't lose too many games otherwise you will be left out and not qualify for the medal rounds. Not sure how many games they can lost but it can't be more than one or 2 before you get sent packing.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on July 25, 2021, 04:18:16 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 25, 2021, 03:58:16 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2021, 03:03:30 PM

Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking. There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others. So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team". Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease. Still hope for Gold though of course.

Yeah and they really have no center presence. Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games. I hate when they build and entire team of shooters. When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.

I'm not so familiar with the rules.

Let me ask, is this the first time the USA has lost in the competition? if they win in the succeeding games, do they still have a chance to win that gold medal?

This article might be able to help you, try to read it.

Olympic basketball bracket, explained: How group play, standings work for 2021 tournaments

USA still has a chance though, and I think they can still win the gold medal.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 25, 2021, 03:58:16 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2021, 03:03:30 PM

Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking. There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others. So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team". Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease. Still hope for Gold though of course.

Yeah and they really have no center presence. Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games. I hate when they build and entire team of shooters. When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.

I'm not so familiar with the rules.

Let me ask, is this the first time the USA has lost in the competition? if they win in the succeeding games, do they still have a chance to win that gold medal?

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Quote from: carlisle1 on July 25, 2021, 11:57:57 AM

Still have the chance if I get it right, if they can win all the games that left for them which is very possible after losing this one.

Their next opponent is Iran - weakest team in whole tournament without any doubts. So, I expect big win. Then, Czech Republic. Good team which can give fight, but IMO they aren't capable to beat USA.

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2021, 03:03:30 PM

Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking. There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others. So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team". Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease. Still hope for Gold though of course.

It's excuses. Almost in every major tournament USA have missing some superstars, buti even with B-Team they were destroying all their opponents by 30 points at least. But times had changed. With all superstars probably they would win gold, but I doubt that they would have easy life and would destroy Nigeria by 80 points liker they did in London Olympics.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2021, 03:03:30 PM

Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking. There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others. So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team". Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease. Still hope for Gold though of course.

Yeah and they really have no center presence. Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games. I hate when they build and entire team of shooters. When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2021, 03:03:30 PM

Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking. There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others. So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team". Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease. Still hope for Gold though of course.

Honestly, I think the lineup of the USA is good enough to win, but it's just disappointing to see them lose against France, however, we should give France the credit they deserve. I am surprised with the result as I was thinking they'll dominate France, the handicap was -10.5, so bookies also believe they'll win easily.

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Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking. There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others. So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team". Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease. Still hope for Gold though of course.

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