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Quote from: zinjo on March 06, 2015, 04:26:15 PM

Quote from: redsn0w on March 06, 2015, 04:24:22 PM

Quote from: zinjo on March 06, 2015, 04:21:46 PM

I don't get why you gave me negative trust?
I never dealed with you nor i don't even know who you are.

Maybe you are wrong, Tomatocage has not left you a negative trust. Maybe try to check again Wink

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Talking about OP who made this thread -_-

You should quote his post Roll Eyes

, I thought you were referring to Tomatocage (however I'm sorry).

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Quote from: redsn0w on March 06, 2015, 04:24:22 PM

Quote from: zinjo on March 06, 2015, 04:21:46 PM

I don't get why you gave me negative trust?
I never dealed with you nor i don't even know who you are.

Maybe you are wrong, Tomatocage has not left you a negative trust. Maybe try to check again Wink

.

Talking about OP who made this thread -_-

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#Free market

Quote from: zinjo on March 06, 2015, 04:21:46 PM

I don't get why you gave me negative trust?
I never dealed with you nor i don't even know who you are.

Maybe you are wrong, Tomatocage has not left you a negative trust. Maybe try to check again Wink

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I don't get why you gave me negative trust?
I never dealed with you nor i don't even know who you are.

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Just looking for peace

Quote from: picolo on January 28, 2015, 10:19:37 AM

Quote from: chronicsky on January 28, 2015, 07:38:10 AM

Quote from: picolo on January 28, 2015, 07:15:11 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 27, 2015, 11:51:25 PM

Quote from: chronicsky on January 27, 2015, 11:38:04 PM

I am still noob to Trust thing.

how exactly does this Trust works ?

Here's how it works:

When someone scams another person, the victim can make themselves feel better by leaving the scammer Negative trust.

That forces the scammer to make or buy a new account for their next scam. It's harsh, but fair.

To better their scamming abilities, creative scammers can make multiple accounts and give themselves Positive trust.

This is all highly ironic because if a reliable trust system was possible, we wouldn't need Bitcoin (which ingeniously replaced the unworkable, Byzantine trust schemes with proof of work).

The system helps make good decisions, you can see how left the trust rating so if it's newbies and unknown traders you take it into account.

Yes actually i was busy since i joined so haven't been looking into all this, had a trade with a guy in start and thus added him in trusted feedback, Just got to know all about it , i can actually see the world better now Wink

Trusted feedback needs to be done by trusted members to be valuable feedback. You have to consider the experience of the member too : if he is an hero with positive feedback or a Senior Member that is doing a lot of trades and their password have not been changed recently (you see that on his trust rating page) you can quite safely send first up to 0.3.
For bigger trades, use an escrow or make multiple trades of 0.3

Yeah thanks... am good with trades and all
Just this Trust thing was confusing me since i didn't had defaultrust , now i changed my settings to defaulttrust and all is good

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Quote from: chronicsky on January 28, 2015, 07:38:10 AM

Quote from: picolo on January 28, 2015, 07:15:11 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 27, 2015, 11:51:25 PM

Quote from: chronicsky on January 27, 2015, 11:38:04 PM

I am still noob to Trust thing.

how exactly does this Trust works ?

Here's how it works:

When someone scams another person, the victim can make themselves feel better by leaving the scammer Negative trust.

That forces the scammer to make or buy a new account for their next scam. It's harsh, but fair.

To better their scamming abilities, creative scammers can make multiple accounts and give themselves Positive trust.

This is all highly ironic because if a reliable trust system was possible, we wouldn't need Bitcoin (which ingeniously replaced the unworkable, Byzantine trust schemes with proof of work).

The system helps make good decisions, you can see how left the trust rating so if it's newbies and unknown traders you take it into account.

Yes actually i was busy since i joined so haven't been looking into all this, had a trade with a guy in start and thus added him in trusted feedback, Just got to know all about it , i can actually see the world better now Wink

Trusted feedback needs to be done by trusted members to be valuable feedback. You have to consider the experience of the member too : if he is an hero with positive feedback or a Senior Member that is doing a lot of trades and their password have not been changed recently (you see that on his trust rating page) you can quite safely send first up to 0.3.
For bigger trades, use an escrow or make multiple trades of 0.3

chronicsky

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Just looking for peace

Quote from: picolo on January 28, 2015, 07:15:11 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 27, 2015, 11:51:25 PM

Quote from: chronicsky on January 27, 2015, 11:38:04 PM

I am still noob to Trust thing.

how exactly does this Trust works ?

Here's how it works:

When someone scams another person, the victim can make themselves feel better by leaving the scammer Negative trust.

That forces the scammer to make or buy a new account for their next scam. It's harsh, but fair.

To better their scamming abilities, creative scammers can make multiple accounts and give themselves Positive trust.

This is all highly ironic because if a reliable trust system was possible, we wouldn't need Bitcoin (which ingeniously replaced the unworkable, Byzantine trust schemes with proof of work).

The system helps make good decisions, you can see how left the trust rating so if it's newbies and unknown traders you take it into account.

Yes actually i was busy since i joined so haven't been looking into all this, had a trade with a guy in start and thus added him in trusted feedback, Just got to know all about it , i can actually see the world better now Wink

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 27, 2015, 11:51:25 PM

Quote from: chronicsky on January 27, 2015, 11:38:04 PM

I am still noob to Trust thing.

how exactly does this Trust works ?

Here's how it works:

When someone scams another person, the victim can make themselves feel better by leaving the scammer Negative trust.

That forces the scammer to make or buy a new account for their next scam. It's harsh, but fair.

To better their scamming abilities, creative scammers can make multiple accounts and give themselves Positive trust.

This is all highly ironic because if a reliable trust system was possible, we wouldn't need Bitcoin (which ingeniously replaced the unworkable, Byzantine trust schemes with proof of work).

The system helps make good decisions, you can see how left the trust rating so if it's newbies and unknown traders you take it into account.

chronicsky

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Just looking for peace

Quote from: Blazr on January 27, 2015, 11:44:22 PM

Go here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

Check who is in your trust list. Put in only DefaultTrust to see the default setting that most people see, though I don't recommend using that and recommend adding/removing people who leave accurate/inaccurate feedback.

Thanks man! got it right now

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 27, 2015, 11:51:25 PM

Quote from: chronicsky on January 27, 2015, 11:38:04 PM

I am still noob to Trust thing.

how exactly does this Trust works ?

Here's how it works:

When someone scams another person, the victim can make themselves feel better by leaving the scammer Negative trust.

That forces the scammer to make or buy a new account for their next scam. It's harsh, but fair.

To better their scamming abilities, creative scammers can make multiple accounts and give themselves Positive trust.

This is all highly ironic because if a reliable trust system was possible, we wouldn't need Bitcoin (which ingeniously replaced the unworkable, Byzantine trust schemes with proof of work).

Yeah... you're certainly right about that all

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Quote from: chronicsky on January 27, 2015, 11:38:04 PM

I am still noob to Trust thing.

how exactly does this Trust works ?

Here's how it works:

When someone scams another person, the victim can make themselves feel better by leaving the scammer Negative trust.

That forces the scammer to make or buy a new account for their next scam. It's harsh, but fair.

To better their scamming abilities, creative scammers can make multiple accounts and give themselves Positive trust.

This is all highly ironic because if a reliable trust system was possible, we wouldn't need Bitcoin (which ingeniously replaced the unworkable, Byzantine trust schemes with proof of work).

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Quote from: chronicsky on January 27, 2015, 11:38:04 PM

I am still noob to Trust thing.
First

Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on January 25, 2015, 08:00:05 AM

Why can't i see his profile like this , it didn't appeared red flagged to me untill i gave him neg rep , and even now it just shows
-6: -1 / +0(0)
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!

how exactly does this Trust works ?

Go here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

Check who is in your trust list. Put in only DefaultTrust to see the default setting that most people see, though I don't recommend using that and recommend adding/removing people who leave accurate/inaccurate feedback.

chronicsky

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Just looking for peace

I am still noob to Trust thing.
First

Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on January 25, 2015, 08:00:05 AM

Why can't i see his profile like this , it didn't appeared red flagged to me untill i gave him neg rep , and even now it just shows
-6: -1 / +0(0)
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!

how exactly does this Trust works ?

Quickseller

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 27, 2015, 11:10:51 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on January 27, 2015, 11:07:26 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 27, 2015, 10:53:18 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on January 23, 2015, 11:39:39 PM

Quote from: Rawted on January 23, 2015, 11:25:41 PM

Not sure how, but I somehow managed to make V Kodoff's trust go from -10 to -1263. Either way, well deserved.

When someone gets a lot of negative trust at one time the weight to additional negative trust ratings is increased.

Oh, now nice. A mob mentality pile-on effect. Exactly like the angry bee pheromone.

http://www.nzbees.net/forum/threads/can-you-smell-the-angry-bee-pheromone.1967/

Can we please be more accurate and change the name from Trust Rating to Popularity?

The reason for this is to warn others when one person scams several people all at once and to prevent others from being scammed in the near future. For example if someone who is trusted were to scam 5 people all at once then they would potentially still have a net positive trust feedback if all negatives were weighed equally, on the other hand under the current system scamming 5 people all at roughly the same time will result in a score of roughly 600 less then their previous trust score (pre scam).

Is there evidence the Popularity Rating System prevents scams?

OTOH, I can see how it could easily be (ab)used to aid them. Cheesy

I don't have any specific examples, however any time you leave negative feedback for someone you are essentially putting your reputation the line that your feedback is correct (yes you can remove it later and apologize however if you have to do this enough then people will not trust you in the first place).

I don't think it can be used to aid scams. Negative feedbacks are weighed more heavily then positive feedbacks.

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Quote from: Quickseller on January 27, 2015, 11:07:26 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 27, 2015, 10:53:18 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on January 23, 2015, 11:39:39 PM

Quote from: Rawted on January 23, 2015, 11:25:41 PM

Not sure how, but I somehow managed to make V Kodoff's trust go from -10 to -1263. Either way, well deserved.

When someone gets a lot of negative trust at one time the weight to additional negative trust ratings is increased.

Oh, now nice. A mob mentality pile-on effect. Exactly like the angry bee pheromone.

http://www.nzbees.net/forum/threads/can-you-smell-the-angry-bee-pheromone.1967/

Can we please be more accurate and change the name from Trust Rating to Popularity?

The reason for this is to warn others when one person scams several people all at once and to prevent others from being scammed in the near future. For example if someone who is trusted were to scam 5 people all at once then they would potentially still have a net positive trust feedback if all negatives were weighed equally, on the other hand under the current system scamming 5 people all at roughly the same time will result in a score of roughly 600 less then their previous trust score (pre scam).

Is there evidence the Popularity Rating System prevents scams?

OTOH, I can see how it could easily be (ab)used to aid them. Cheesy

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 27, 2015, 10:53:18 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on January 23, 2015, 11:39:39 PM

Quote from: Rawted on January 23, 2015, 11:25:41 PM

Not sure how, but I somehow managed to make V Kodoff's trust go from -10 to -1263. Either way, well deserved.

When someone gets a lot of negative trust at one time the weight to additional negative trust ratings is increased.

Oh, now nice. A mob mentality pile-on effect. Exactly like the angry bee pheromone.

http://www.nzbees.net/forum/threads/can-you-smell-the-angry-bee-pheromone.1967/

Can we please be more accurate and change the name from Trust Rating to Popularity?

The reason for this is to warn others when one person scams several people all at once and to prevent others from being scammed in the near future. For example if someone who is trusted were to scam 5 people all at once then they would potentially still have a net positive trust feedback if all negatives were weighed equally, on the other hand under the current system scamming 5 people all at roughly the same time will result in a score of roughly 600 less then their previous trust score (pre scam).

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: Quickseller on January 23, 2015, 11:39:39 PM

Quote from: Rawted on January 23, 2015, 11:25:41 PM

Not sure how, but I somehow managed to make V Kodoff's trust go from -10 to -1263. Either way, well deserved.

When someone gets a lot of negative trust at one time the weight to additional negative trust ratings is increased.

Oh, how nice. A mob mentality pile-on effect. Exactly like the angry bee pheromone.

http://www.nzbees.net/forum/threads/can-you-smell-the-angry-bee-pheromone.1967/

Can we please be more accurate and change the name from Trust Rating to Popularity?

chronicsky

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Just looking for peace

WTF! what an asshole , i just saw it now , this guy gave me feedback as Scammer , with reference to this Thread
And i don't even know what is going on here.
I think he thought neg rep is good thing and started giving everyone free neg rep... Cheesy

[Not funny] Tongue

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Quote from: the joint on January 25, 2015, 06:04:05 PM

Quote from: picolo on January 25, 2015, 09:45:20 AM

Quote from: V.Kodoff on January 23, 2015, 02:26:38 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tomatocage-37522

This kid is totaly retarded
After i show him how many feedback offsite i got offsite to realize his mistake,he still continue to fake lies and abusing the trust system.
If the moderators/escrows are as him,this community/forum is cancer.
He realized that he did mistake,and obviously i'n not only not a scammer but more trusted than him,he blocked the messages i can send to him.
He realize he did mistake but still don't want to remove it abusing the trusted system.
People like you is cancer to all online trading
How come escrows start lying and posting negative feedback randomly and abusing the trust system?
You know what carma is right? you will end someday poor and useless glassed fat scum begging for food in the street oneday
And i will still continue to be more trusted and 10000x more rich than you
Lets everyone see what a retarded cunt you are,accepting your mistake but still abusing the trust level.
Moderatos here are shits to trust you and to accept you as escrow consider you are lier.
https://i.imgur.com/b64nsBo.png

P.S: Its not like i can't buy account for less than 30 dollars and continue my shits.But i don't like lying faggots like you.
Lets everyone see what escrow bitcointalk got and how he lying around

I had a good experience with tomatocage, could you show a proof that he admitted that he made a mistake? You just show a post where he says he will not remove his negative trust ratings. Thanks.

At this point, his proof doesn't matter. He's just going around giving people negative feedback and falsely accusing others of being scammers for either no good reason or no reason at all.

Ok I see that. You cannot please everyone, can you?

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Nice another free neg rep wth is going on here with this guy?

the joint

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Quote from: picolo on January 25, 2015, 09:45:20 AM

Quote from: V.Kodoff on January 23, 2015, 02:26:38 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tomatocage-37522

This kid is totaly retarded
After i show him how many feedback offsite i got offsite to realize his mistake,he still continue to fake lies and abusing the trust system.
If the moderators/escrows are as him,this community/forum is cancer.
He realized that he did mistake,and obviously i'n not only not a scammer but more trusted than him,he blocked the messages i can send to him.
He realize he did mistake but still don't want to remove it abusing the trusted system.
People like you is cancer to all online trading
How come escrows start lying and posting negative feedback randomly and abusing the trust system?
You know what carma is right? you will end someday poor and useless glassed fat scum begging for food in the street oneday
And i will still continue to be more trusted and 10000x more rich than you
Lets everyone see what a retarded cunt you are,accepting your mistake but still abusing the trust level.
Moderatos here are shits to trust you and to accept you as escrow consider you are lier.
https://i.imgur.com/b64nsBo.png

P.S: Its not like i can't buy account for less than 30 dollars and continue my shits.But i don't like lying faggots like you.
Lets everyone see what escrow bitcointalk got and how he lying around

I had a good experience with tomatocage, could you show a proof that he admitted that he made a mistake? You just show a post where he says he will not remove his negative trust ratings. Thanks.

At this point, his proof doesn't matter. He's just going around giving people negative feedback and falsely accusing others of being scammers for either no good reason or no reason at all.

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