Topic: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT - page 96. (Read 157162 times)

Yes, currently. But your DBF-destroy by fee/segwit softfork junk code will never ever be activated before a capacity hardfork upgrade.

Yes, I have noticed it coming from a bunch of classic supporters.(Clarify -Not All, Gavin, Jeff, Ver all appear reasonable) . I don't want to appear paranoid , but it does give a bit of credence to the potential of some Agent provocateurs with old accounts attempting to subvert and disrupt our ecosystem.



P.S... No I am not insinuating Franky is an Agent  provocateur ... there is no way for me to know what motivates his resistance to having a rational discussion and addressing the facts.

In short, even without Bitmain there is currently zero chance of activating Classic. In other words, Classic is DOA.

He does this all the time. Have you not noticed it before?

Again my post has nothing to do with the core scalability map, altcoins or the Lightning network. Even after being corrected you seem impervious to reading and taking in new information regardless of that new information being a solution that is available now which directly addresses the capacity you so demand. Instead of reading the link and understanding the information, and using the code to increase your capacity when using the bitcoin network you assume that there is no other innovation that is possible outside of increasing the blocksize. You are plugging your ears, making assumptions, and repeating offtopic comments.... It is rather quite sad.

Here are some other solutions that existed prior which you probably won't acknowledge or read-


https://bitcore.io/api/channel/
https://bitcoinj.github.io/working-with-micropayments
https://github.com/streamium/streamium
https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-guide#micropayment-channel

The Payment channel I was referring to was a slight improvement on the above. Bitcoin Payment channels do not use altcoins if you haven't figured that out yet.

well this topic is for the core fanboys.. to advertise their love for core and their hate for anything not core..
so your "we" i assumed and thought was the royal 'we' of core fanboy trying to promote cores roadmap.
im guessing your talking about some other altcoin that is not bitcoin.

if its related to bitcoin.. meaning your payment channel is LN.. then that also adds bytes to a tx..
if your talking about an altcoin. then i am sorry to confuse you with the core fanboys

Wow , completely off topic, and unrelated to my post. Segwit and CT has absolutely nothing to do with the new micropayment channel I am discussing that dramatically increases capacity. I am seriously concerned for your mental state.

have you actually looked at the data..

signatures =70bytes

changing the flags and other stuff add bytes.. changing the OP_return from 40 to 80 bytes to allow confidential payments.. adds bytes..
thats just 2 examples of the multitude of things that are going to add bytes to the main block.

so dont expect larger capacity for long.. by the time people have seen segwit running for a few months to trust it has no bugs. and then update their clients.. the new features would have bloated up any saving the signatures would have made.

segwit is not a capacity increase. its a diversion of data to allow for more features..

says the blockstream crew who want people to use side chains(100% premined altcoins)..

Good thing we have better solutions than simply increasing the blocksize. The blocksize limit is already inspiring innovation to increase capacity without costly tradeoffs and we haven't even seen a fee market event occur yet....

yes maybe you should leave bitcoin since you cannot fork it into an altcoin. just buy ethereum

You mean the pump & dump that lost 20% overnight 

in short 1MB holding strong.
hardforking bitcoin impossibru.

Bitmain statement regarding "A Call for Consensus"

2016/02/11

"BITMAIN/Antpool chose to abstain from signing the statement, “A Call for Consensus,” that was released yesterday by representatives of several bitcoin companies. The statement was produced as the result of extensive discussions between the Core team and key industry players over the past several weeks.

We applaud the Core team’s increased communication and willingness to find compromise, but we do not wish to bind ourselves to a document that does not contain concrete technical proposals. We look forward to reviewing Bitcoin Core’s updated roadmap and evaluating it on its technical merits, but we do not believe that this should be done to the exclusion of other development efforts.

Like those who signed the Call for Consensus document, we share the common goal of seeing bitcoin succeed. The bitcoin network has proven resilient in the face of many challenges over the years, and we do not believe that testing different implementations of the software poses a threat to the network. If support for a hard fork fails to reach majority consensus, then bitcoin’s built-in voting mechanism works as intended.

Bitcoin has always been free software, and in line with open source philosophy, we encourage and welcome all code proposals irrespective of the team proposing." - Bitmain Technologies, Ltd.

Archived: https://archive.is/HWQUy

1. It is not guaranteed and you are a fool to state such.
2. What is a "important node"?
3. So according to you every merchant and user that doesn't upgrade is irrelevant? 

This is what happens when you have to resort to nonsense. They've run out of decent arguments.

What's this gorilla math based on? WTF is an important node?

We have only 6000+ full nodes, where does that millions number come from? It is almost guaranteed that if 100 most important nodes upgraded, 99% of the bitcoin users will be fine. In fact if you reduce that number to 20 most important nodes, I think still over 95% of users will not be affected

Dear franky1,

You are not welcome to shitpost in my self-moderated threads.  I warned you not to say "community" again.  You are now in my (very exclusive) killfile, as I no longer GAS about your opinion.

Most people would have figured that out by now, given the numerous repetitive deletions your shitposts.

But since you ride the short bus with Team Classic, I'll give you ample fair notice before escalating the reversion war you've started.

0.12 hasn't been released yet.

When it does come out it is faaast and smooth, anybody still running crassic would be masochistic to persevere.

Nodes are one thing that anyone can easily fire up for numbers. The miners are not going to mine Classic...just let it die already.

just remember the bitcoin-core nodes category is filled with all nodes 0.8-0.12 .. so if you actually count just the 0.11.2 and 0.12 as voting for 1mb.. and leave the rest as undecided.. you would get a fairer grasp of the reality