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Topic: [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits - page 24. (Read 39050 times)

legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 11105
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200 source smerits per month is surely NOT the top of the range.

Clearly there are a few members who have in the neighborhood of 400 to 500 smerits per month.  You can look at the top merit senders to reasonably make such calculation about the top merit senders.
Most generous recent merit senders:
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1339: dbshck
1152: suchmoon
963: chimk
811: Vod
689: Foxpup
534: Flying Hellfish
527: bones261
461: LoyceV
459: DarkStar_
311: frodocooper
293: qwk
285: TMAN
281: Halab
233: DdmrDdmr
229: ETFbitcoin
223: OgNasty
209: JayJuanGee

You see Loyce.   Shocked  You are showing that I am on a streak to be wrong in this thread, once again. 

The numbers are even higher than 400 to 500 source smerits per month because some members are sending more than 500 smerits in a month.. and over 1,000 as you show in this list from last month presumably a vast majority of those smerits are coming from their source allocation.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
200 source smerits per month is surely NOT the top of the range.

Clearly there are a few members who have in the neighborhood of 400 to 500 smerits per month.  You can look at the top merit senders to reasonably make such calculation about the top merit senders.
Most generous recent merit senders:
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1339: dbshck
1152: suchmoon
963: chimk
811: Vod
689: Foxpup
534: Flying Hellfish
527: bones261
461: LoyceV
459: DarkStar_
311: frodocooper
293: qwk
285: TMAN
281: Halab
233: DdmrDdmr
229: ETFbitcoin
223: OgNasty
209: JayJuanGee
full member
Activity: 924
Merit: 221
Could the source supply also been given on how active a source-member is at the forum?

Or mainly where the source is active?

Cause from around 15 to 200 and more is a big difference?
Usually the generous users in giving merits were active. It  is a common sense that it is not easy to rewards merit to a quality post and it is not also easy to spot a post that is worth for merits. So, if one wishes to know how active those generous merit source will be then just get the basis on how frequent they rewards merit to the users here in the forum. The more users they merited in the forum meaning the more active they are as a source-member.

Though not all active merit source users since they too have their reason and we cannot deny the fact they are not oblige to be here at all times. A merit source is just a privilege to them given by the admin and they are being trusted.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 11105
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Could the source supply also been given on how active a source-member is at the forum?

Or mainly where the source is active?

Cause from around 15 to 200 and more is a big difference?

200 source smerits per month is surely NOT the top of the range.

Clearly there are a few members who have in the neighborhood of 400 to 500 smerits per month.  You can look at the top merit senders to reasonably make such calculation about the top merit senders.

It seems to me that theymos would not want to limit himself regarding too specific of criteria (such as activity level) to determine how large to make each of the source's monthly supply, and I suppose that he uses a decent amount of discretion to determine who to pick and whether to increase or decrease their monthly allocation.

 I recall that he has made some posts that generally discuss some criteria that he might use to determine source status, including the thread that I believe you attempted to follow when you applied for source status, and maybe if a source is NOT active enough or is not spending monthly source allotments, he might choose to reduce their source, so you are likely correct that activity level might be one of the things that he considers... besides some of the other disclosures that he made about the preference for no self dealing and stuff like that. 

Anyone else have a better assessment of how theymos might balance criteria and determine source smerit levels, since I have not been batting too high in this particular thread in the past couple of days?   Wink
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 13168
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Could the source supply also been given on how active a source-member is at the forum?

Or mainly where the source is active?

Cause from around 15 to 200 and more is a big difference?
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 11105
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
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I started-off with 25 per 30 days back in September 2018. That went on for some months until there was a Merit Source reallocation at the beginning of this year, moving up to a much more handsome figure (which I’ve currently exhausted and I’m now running through my personal earned sMerit backlog).


hahahaha

Surely 25 source smerits per month is lower than my speculation of 50... So, yeah, case in point.  Do you believe that there is (or was) any 15(s) out there?    Shocked


Edit: Second time in a week, in this thread, that I have had to take everything back.  A member has just sent me a direct message asserting a source of smerits that is 15 per month... There you have it....  Wink.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
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I started-off with 25 per 30 days back in September 2018. That went on for some months until there was a Merit Source reallocation at the beginning of this year, moving up to a much more handsome figure (which I’ve currently exhausted and I’m now running through my personal earned sMerit backlog).

Edit: I think there are lower starting points is some local boards. I recall reading someone stating a lower amount than 25. Let's see if I can find it.
Ok, I can stop searching now .... I've got an old PM that hints a Merit Source with a lower amount back then, but still in the two digits.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 11105
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

The total amount of sMerit transfered is very close to the total amount that sources have to spend. So not all sources empty theirs.

Yes, also the amount of merit available for sources are different.

Some source can have 200+ merits to send others can have 15+, it's easier to spend 15 merits than 200+.

I do understand that from time to time, theymos might change the monthly quantity of smerits that any source receives, but I did not imagine that such monthly allotment would have gone as low as 15 smerits per month. 

Of course, I understand that theymos can do whatever he wants in terms of quantity of source smerits, and I doubt the algorithm would require him to have any number higher than 1 source smerits per month, if he were to so chose, and perhaps some low number merit sources, like 15 source smerits per month, would be either a way of trying someone out or an attempt to get smerits distributed more widely.  I would have imagined that in real practice the real lowest of any source is in the 50 source smerits per month territory... but i don't know any specific examples that are lower than 50 (it is hard to prove a negative), so if anyone knows of any actual examples of a source (without necessarily naming names) who has lower than 50 source smerits per month, then, to me, that would be an interesting revelation of an actual case.   

By the way, the monthly quantity of any smerit source would be difficult to determine, by inference on the lower end, because the source might not be spending all of the source smerit allotment, yet on the upper end, it would be a bit more easily determined, especially if the smerit source is spending a high quantity of smerits that go beyond his/her initial allotments and what s/he is gaining through regular received merits from other members.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1517
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The total amount of sMerit transfered is very close to the total amount that sources have to spend. So not all sources empty theirs.

Yes, also the amount of merit available for sources are different.

Some source can have 200+ merits to send others can have 15+, it's easier to spend 15 merits than 200+.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
You are mistaken my friend.
Unlikely, let's call it "misunderstood" Tongue

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Merit spent when you have available source merit comes from your source merit balance, not your sMerit balance.
I meant you were out of sMerit before you were a source, then you started sharing more, which much mean you're a source now.

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I am not sure if most merit sources spend more than their source merit each month
The total amount of sMerit transfered is very close to the total amount that sources have to spend. So not all sources empty theirs.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2371
I take back everything that I said above, and I suppose that my memory is going bad because it seems that I had erroneously recalled that my initial airdrop of smerits was 200.
I got 200 sMerit airdropped, even though it should have been 400 based on theymos' formula.

From what I've read, QuickSeller had exhausted his sMerit supply, and has been sharing more sMerit than he earned since theymos added 8 Merit sources. So I believe he's a Merit source now.
You are mistaken my friend. Merit spent when you have available source merit comes from your source merit balance, not your sMerit balance. As such, I have some available sMerit that remains unspent.

I am not sure if most merit sources spend more than their source merit each month, but if not, I would imagine many merit sources have considerable sMerit if they earn a decent amount of merit. The way things are looking, I will run out of both source merit and sMerit before the end of the month, but I plan on addressing this by earning more merit.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1828
I take back everything that I said above, and I suppose that my memory is going bad because it seems that I had erroneously recalled that my initial airdrop of smerits was 200.
I got 200 sMerit airdropped, even though it should have been 400 based on theymos' formula.

From what I've read, QuickSeller had exhausted his sMerit supply, and has been sharing more sMerit than he earned since theymos added 8 Merit sources. So I believe he's a Merit source now.

     Oh boy, if this is true, this is going to cause a good deal of controversy. I guess theymos wants the dark side to have a hand in who gets merit as well.  We will see how this goes over. Making sure to put popcorn on my grocery list.

legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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I got 200 sMerit airdropped, even though it should have been 400 based on theymos' formula.

Yep, 200 was the max for legendaries. AFAICT the formula is lacking a division by 2 since values for the other ranks are double of the actual amounts as well.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
I take back everything that I said above, and I suppose that my memory is going bad because it seems that I had erroneously recalled that my initial airdrop of smerits was 200.
I got 200 sMerit airdropped, even though it should have been 400 based on theymos' formula.

From what I've read, QuickSeller had exhausted his sMerit supply, and has been sharing more sMerit than he earned since theymos added 8 Merit sources. So I believe he's a Merit source now.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2371
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I’ve just checked it on the Merit Dashboard and @Quickseller (as of last Friday) had earned 552 non-airdropped Merits, while having sent 488 sMerits. The 552 earned merits would account for 276 sent sMerits out of the 488 sent sMerits. The remaining 212 sent sMerits could be part of the initial sMerit airdrop (or not):
 
Since Legendries could have received up to 400 sMerits depending on their activity (see re:Initial sMerit for every rank?), those 212 sent sMerits may have come from the initial sMerit airdrop, from being a Merit Source, or a combination of both. Just by looking at the numbers I don’t think we can determine that he is a Merit Source yet.

You can assert that someone is a Merit Source of the total amount or sent sMerits > (Received floor(sMerits/2) + Max potential airdropped sMerit for the rank), but just before this value there is a grey area due to not knowing the exact amount of airdropped sMerits.


Many appointed Merit Sources tend to have small allowances to start-off with. They also are often people that earn merits (thus generating sMerits), so during the first months, the awarded sMerits from the Merit Source allocation may not exceed the generated/unspent sMerits, and thus remain undetected (as is the case of @Coolcryptovator I presume).

I believe that the maximum that any Legendaries could have received on the initial airdrop would have been 200, so Quickseller has spent an excess of 12 merits which would explain why he has been detected as a merit source.

By the way, it does appear that as of last week, theymos added an additional 7 merit sources (raising the total merit sources from 123 to 130)
I believe he actually added 8 new merit sources because one was removed.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 11105
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
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I’ve just checked it on the Merit Dashboard and @Quickseller (as of last Friday) had earned 552 non-airdropped Merits, while having sent 488 sMerits. The 552 earned merits would account for 276 sent sMerits out of the 488 sent sMerits. The remaining 212 sent sMerits could be part of the initial sMerit airdrop (or not):
 
Since Legendries could have received up to 400 sMerits depending on their activity (see re:Initial sMerit for every rank?), those 212 sent sMerits may have come from the initial sMerit airdrop, from being a Merit Source, or a combination of both. Just by looking at the numbers I don’t think we can determine that he is a Merit Source yet.

You can assert that someone is a Merit Source of the total amount or sent sMerits > (Received floor(sMerits/2) + Max potential airdropped sMerit for the rank), but just before this value there is a grey area due to not knowing the exact amount of airdropped sMerits.


Many appointed Merit Sources tend to have small allowances to start-off with. They also are often people that earn merits (thus generating sMerits), so during the first months, the awarded sMerits from the Merit Source allocation may not exceed the generated/unspent sMerits, and thus remain undetected (as is the case of @Coolcryptovator I presume).

I believe that the maximum that any Legendaries could have received on the initial airdrop would have been 200, so Quickseller has spent an excess of 12 merits which would explain why he has been detected as a merit source.

By the way, it does appear that as of last week, theymos added an additional 7 merit sources (raising the total merit sources from 123 to 130)

Edit:   I take back everything that I said above, and I suppose that my memory is going bad because it seems that I had erroneously recalled that my initial airdrop of smerits was 200.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
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I’ve just checked it on the Merit Dashboard and @Quickseller (as of last Friday) had earned 552 non-airdropped Merits, while having sent 488 sMerits. The 552 earned merits would account for 276 sent sMerits out of the 488 sent sMerits. The remaining 212 sent sMerits could be part of the initial sMerit airdrop (or not):
 
Since Legendries could have received up to 400 sMerits depending on their activity (see re:Initial sMerit for every rank?), those 212 sent sMerits may have come from the initial sMerit airdrop, from being a Merit Source, or a combination of both. Just by looking at the numbers I don’t think we can determine that he is a Merit Source yet.

You can assert that someone is a Merit Source of the total amount or sent sMerits > (Received floor(sMerits/2) + Max potential airdropped sMerit for the rank), but just before this value there is a grey area due to not knowing the exact amount of airdropped sMerits.


Many appointed Merit Sources tend to have small allowances to start-off with. They also are often people that earn merits (thus generating sMerits), so during the first months, the awarded sMerits from the Merit Source allocation may not exceed the generated/unspent sMerits, and thus remain undetected (as is the case of @Coolcryptovator I presume).

Edit: @JayJuanGee, apparently the max is 400 for Legendries:
While specific formula is not given, theymos wrote that the initial sMerit is not solely determined by rank, but determined by rank and activity points obtained in the last year.

The exact formula was:

Code:
yearActivity = activity in the last ~year, max 378
freeMerit = the merit (not sMerit) you started with
modifier =
  0.1 if member
  0.2 if full member
  0.25 if sr member
  0.35 if hero
  0.4 if legendary

return (yearActivity/378) * modifier * freeMerit

So the most you could get is if you were a Legendary who maxed out your activity points in the last year, in which case you would get 1 * 0.4 * 1000 = 400 sMerit.

Edit 2:
Then again:
I got 200 sMerit airdropped, even though it should have been 400 based on theymos' formula.

Yep, 200 was the max for legendaries. AFAICT the formula is lacking a division by 2 since values for the other ranks are double of the actual amounts as well.
That would mean that the 212 before referenced sMerits > 200 sMerits, placing @Quickseller as a Merit Source.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1166
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I just want to say that the detection algorithm has spotted the following members as new merit sources:
1) Quickseller
How do I down merit this cancerous move? Roll Eyes
Algorithms are sometimes wrong Smiley Maybe there is a some mistake on Coin-1's detection, just like Coolcryptovator he is one of the Sources now as he said it himself but the algo hasn't detected his presence.
Is there anything I can do to deny the claim Tongue
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
I just want to say that the detection algorithm has spotted the following members as new merit sources:
1) Quickseller
How do I down merit this cancerous move? Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 2618
Merit: 2304
I haven't updated my posts on the front page this week.

I just want to say that the detection algorithm has spotted the following members as new merit sources:
1) Quickseller
2) cabalism13
3) CryptopreneurBrainboss
4) micgoossens

I will update all tables and chart later. Wink
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