Topic: [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits - page 23. (Read 38401 times)

Thanks for the information. As far as I understand, Vod voluntarily decided to be excluded from the list of merit sources. Therefore, he will not be marked in bold in the next update of this TOP-200.



Yes, I know about these former merit sources. You forgot digaran.

Also, QuestionAuthority I believe was removed from being a merit source, as was stingers. Neither of them are bold in the OP, so I am not sure if you already know this or not

All tables and chart on the first page have been updated.

This week the analysis has detected Coolcryptovator as a new merit source.

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You're right. The previous week, Coolcryptovator wasn't detected as a merit source because he earned a lot of merits before being appointed to the new status. As I can see, he sent dozens of sMerits this week and now his generosity index is 24, so the detection algorithm can spot him.

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I will exclude a member from the list of detected merit sources if this information is confirmed.

You see Loyce.     You are showing that I am on a streak to be wrong in this thread, once again. 

The numbers are even higher than 400 to 500 source smerits per month because some members are sending more than 500 smerits in a month.. and over 1,000 as you show in this list from last month presumably a vast majority of those smerits are coming from their source allocation.

Most generous recent merit senders:

Usually the generous users in giving merits were active. It  is a common sense that it is not easy to rewards merit to a quality post and it is not also easy to spot a post that is worth for merits. So, if one wishes to know how active those generous merit source will be then just get the basis on how frequent they rewards merit to the users here in the forum. The more users they merited in the forum meaning the more active they are as a source-member.

Though not all active merit source users since they too have their reason and we cannot deny the fact they are not oblige to be here at all times. A merit source is just a privilege to them given by the admin and they are being trusted.

200 source smerits per month is surely NOT the top of the range.

Clearly there are a few members who have in the neighborhood of 400 to 500 smerits per month.  You can look at the top merit senders to reasonably make such calculation about the top merit senders.

It seems to me that theymos would not want to limit himself regarding too specific of criteria (such as activity level) to determine how large to make each of the source's monthly supply, and I suppose that he uses a decent amount of discretion to determine who to pick and whether to increase or decrease their monthly allocation.

 I recall that he has made some posts that generally discuss some criteria that he might use to determine source status, including the thread that I believe you attempted to follow when you applied for source status, and maybe if a source is NOT active enough or is not spending monthly source allotments, he might choose to reduce their source, so you are likely correct that activity level might be one of the things that he considers... besides some of the other disclosures that he made about the preference for no self dealing and stuff like that. 

Anyone else have a better assessment of how theymos might balance criteria and determine source smerit levels, since I have not been batting too high in this particular thread in the past couple of days?   

Could the source supply also been given on how active a source-member is at the forum?

Or mainly where the source is active?

Cause from around 15 to 200 and more is a big difference?

hahahaha

Surely 25 source smerits per month is lower than my speculation of 50... So, yeah, case in point.  Do you believe that there is (or was) any 15(s) out there?    


Edit: Second time in a week, in this thread, that I have had to take everything back.  A member has just sent me a direct message asserting a source of smerits that is 15 per month... There you have it....  .

I started-off with 25 per 30 days back in September 2018. That went on for some months until there was a Merit Source reallocation at the beginning of this year, moving up to a much more handsome figure (which I’ve currently exhausted and I’m now running through my personal earned sMerit backlog).

Edit: I think there are lower starting points is some local boards. I recall reading someone stating a lower amount than 25. Let's see if I can find it.
Ok, I can stop searching now .... I've got an old PM that hints a Merit Source with a lower amount back then, but still in the two digits.

I do understand that from time to time, theymos might change the monthly quantity of smerits that any source receives, but I did not imagine that such monthly allotment would have gone as low as 15 smerits per month. 

Of course, I understand that theymos can do whatever he wants in terms of quantity of source smerits, and I doubt the algorithm would require him to have any number higher than 1 source smerits per month, if he were to so chose, and perhaps some low number merit sources, like 15 source smerits per month, would be either a way of trying someone out or an attempt to get smerits distributed more widely.  I would have imagined that in real practice the real lowest of any source is in the 50 source smerits per month territory... but i don't know any specific examples that are lower than 50 (it is hard to prove a negative), so if anyone knows of any actual examples of a source (without necessarily naming names) who has lower than 50 source smerits per month, then, to me, that would be an interesting revelation of an actual case.   

By the way, the monthly quantity of any smerit source would be difficult to determine, by inference on the lower end, because the source might not be spending all of the source smerit allotment, yet on the upper end, it would be a bit more easily determined, especially if the smerit source is spending a high quantity of smerits that go beyond his/her initial allotments and what s/he is gaining through regular received merits from other members.

Yes, also the amount of merit available for sources are different.

Some source can have 200+ merits to send others can have 15+, it's easier to spend 15 merits than 200+.

Unlikely, let's call it "misunderstood"

I meant you were out of sMerit before you were a source, then you started sharing more, which much mean you're a source now.

The total amount of sMerit transfered is very close to the total amount that sources have to spend. So not all sources empty theirs.

You are mistaken my friend. Merit spent when you have available source merit comes from your source merit balance, not your sMerit balance. As such, I have some available sMerit that remains unspent.

I am not sure if most merit sources spend more than their source merit each month, but if not, I would imagine many merit sources have considerable sMerit if they earn a decent amount of merit. The way things are looking, I will run out of both source merit and sMerit before the end of the month, but I plan on addressing this by earning more merit.

     Oh boy, if this is true, this is going to cause a good deal of controversy. I guess theymos wants the dark side to have a hand in who gets merit as well.  We will see how this goes over. Making sure to put popcorn on my grocery list.

Yep, 200 was the max for legendaries. AFAICT the formula is lacking a division by 2 since values for the other ranks are double of the actual amounts as well.

I got 200 sMerit airdropped, even though it should have been 400 based on theymos' formula.

From what I've read, QuickSeller had exhausted his sMerit supply, and has been sharing more sMerit than he earned since theymos added 8 Merit sources. So I believe he's a Merit source now.

I believe he actually added 8 new merit sources because one was removed.

I believe that the maximum that any Legendaries could have received on the initial airdrop would have been 200, so Quickseller has spent an excess of 12 merits which would explain why he has been detected as a merit source.

By the way, it does appear that as of last week, theymos added an additional 7 merit sources (raising the total merit sources from 123 to 130)

Edit:   I take back everything that I said above, and I suppose that my memory is going bad because it seems that I had erroneously recalled that my initial airdrop of smerits was 200.

I’ve just checked it on the Merit Dashboard and @Quickseller (as of last Friday) had earned 552 non-airdropped Merits, while having sent 488 sMerits. The 552 earned merits would account for 276 sent sMerits out of the 488 sent sMerits. The remaining 212 sent sMerits could be part of the initial sMerit airdrop (or not):
 
Since Legendries could have received up to 400 sMerits depending on their activity (see re:Initial sMerit for every rank?), those 212 sent sMerits may have come from the initial sMerit airdrop, from being a Merit Source, or a combination of both. Just by looking at the numbers I don’t think we can determine that he is a Merit Source yet.

You can assert that someone is a Merit Source of the total amount or sent sMerits > (Received floor(sMerits/2) + Max potential airdropped sMerit for the rank), but just before this value there is a grey area due to not knowing the exact amount of airdropped sMerits.


Many appointed Merit Sources tend to have small allowances to start-off with. They also are often people that earn merits (thus generating sMerits), so during the first months, the awarded sMerits from the Merit Source allocation may not exceed the generated/unspent sMerits, and thus remain undetected (as is the case of @Coolcryptovator I presume).

Edit: @JayJuanGee, apparently the max is 400 for Legendries:

Edit 2:
Then again:
That would mean that the 212 before referenced sMerits > 200 sMerits, placing @Quickseller as a Merit Source.