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Quote from: hugeblack on June 02, 2023, 01:26:29 AM

In your opinion, what are the reasons that would prompt a member to sell you the account for about $80, when he could collect that amount within two weeks? And continue to make more profits.
Logically speaking, this is illogical, so everyone who sells these accounts is either useless acc that you cannot participate in signature campaigns, or they are linked to scam.

Sorry for losing your money, but consider it a lesson for you to learn better. post in English board or your local board and continue to post for several months. If you do not get merits, PM me. If you find that you are posting accepted posts and add a value to your local community, I will give you some merits.

You've always been a coordinated and reputable influencer member in the forum. I always see how you always encourage members with merits whose posts are worth merited in the local boards.
That really feels convenient for beginners to build their accounts without feeling sidelined of being ignored to merit their quality posts.
Something those that buys accounts in the forum fails to understand the contention of appreciating oneself in building and account from scratch.
Anyone who buys a forum account will never appreciate it because they don't know the tasks involved.
The Op also need to be sanctioned of violating the forum policy because buying an account is illegal and impersonation.
Like you said, let it serve as a lesson to him and the rest but though still feels pity for him because a $40 could be a $1,000 to some persons like the poor people in my place considering the economy and the devalued of our currency.

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Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 10:30:16 PM

Now the bottom line is that the cheating cycle has been repeatedly damaged by invincible49 but in no case they have been able to retaliate. As a result, the fraud circle later compared invincible49 to me and started thinking that I (LDL) was personally invincible49 (Now inactive) and they took a kind of invisible revenge on me with their created group (nitscam420/Xavi20/Topman21....). Forcing report and sending a planned $40 bitcoin (to my LDL address) connected to (Topman21) report which was all their planned plot or animosity.

That whole post of yours is very confusing man. How do you prove that scum and his team are behind all of this just to set a trap for you in which you fell? I don't see from your post history that can even remotely points your account towards mine as an alt. I don't know if you are trying to hide something behind some other's scummy behaviors. I've got your dm a few days ago but after reading this whole thread I'm shocked that you would make up that shit. Or what else?

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on June 05, 2023, 04:00:57 AM

I have been following this thread from the start and didn’t say anything because everything about it looks suspicious and it’s kinda difficult to say what’s what in this situation. I don’t think you have to repeat your posts to be heard. Notscam420 is also doing the same on this thread, repeating evidence linking LDL to other accounts. It’s tiring to read guys, we saw your previous post, and frankly that’s not enough reason to close the case. The OP clearly wants blood and notscam420 claims to have some dirt on LDL, I’m waiting to see what they come up with.

I will say more: while these two heroes of the whistleblower threaten to catch the swindler, he, knowing that he is now being controlled, will be very attentive. I said earlier that LDL has alternate accounts, but it's not forbidden, and it's very hard to corner someone who knows they're being followed. Among other things, in the local branch of the LDL, there is clearly a transfer of merit to increase ranks, but apparently, several clans cannot reconcile with each other.

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Quote from: John Abraham on June 05, 2023, 02:41:09 AM

I believe this is the thing that happened here. I will apologize if they can prove me wrong and later discovered that LDL really tried to scam them. I am not sure if any of you guys paid attention to my previous post. I will repeat it again what I said in my previous post.

Topman was not in the forum for the last two months; how did you get his telegram account? Let's say you got his telegram from his bounty post. @OP, How did you know he is selling a full member account? Don't tell fairy tales!
Looking forward to hearing from you.

Moreover, You said $40 is big money for you. When Yahoo suggested, you give your Bitcoin Wallet and get the money from LDL. You denied it and said you don't want the money back until this is solved. What was the issue here? The issue was someone scammed you for $40. Now it is found that $40 is in LDL's wallet. If you were a real victim, you should be more than happy that you are getting back your Big Money! If you get the money back, the issues should have been resolved. But, it seems this wasn't the primary purpose. Or was it?

I have been following this thread from the start and didn’t say anything because everything about it looks suspicious and it’s kinda difficult to say what’s what in this situation. I don’t think you have to repeat your posts to be heard. Notscam420 is also doing the same on this thread, repeating evidence linking LDL to other accounts. It’s tiring to read guys, we saw your previous post, and frankly that’s not enough reason to close the case. The OP clearly wants blood and notscam420 claims to have some dirt on LDL, I’m waiting to see what they come up with.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on June 04, 2023, 01:36:05 PM

I think you did not understand what I said. Let me try it again.

Check my profile, you will find a BTC address which is bc1ql847ly3a0kaw6zhscc686a3lv7ve98qgay8422

Consider, somehow you [notscam420] have great anger against me and you want to do something it to downplay my forum reputation. OP [Xavi20] is a good friend of yours or may be OP is you [notscam420=Xavi20]. Both of you made a plan:

Create a fake conversation where Xavi20 will ask a btc address, notscam420 [pretending a forum member who have accounts or anything that is good to frame me] send Xavi20 my BTC address which is easy to find. Xavi20 sends the money.

Very simple and seems effective too in short term.

While you guys or you yourself is doing everything to ensure I am trapped, I have no idea what is going on.

Now the next phase of the plan.
Xavi20 creates a very similar topic and accuse me I am a scammer.

My question.
Do you think I am really a scammer?

Give short answer as yes or no.

I believe this is the thing that happened here. I will apologize if they can prove me wrong and later discover that LDL really tried to scam them. I am not sure if any of you guys paid attention to my previous post. I will repeat it again what I said in my previous post.

Topman was not in the forum for the last two months; how did you get his telegram account? Let's say you got his telegram from his bounty post. @OP, How did you know he is selling a full member account? Don't tell fairy tales!
Looking forward to hearing from you.

Moreover, You said $40 is big money for you. When Yahoo suggested, you give your Bitcoin Wallet and get the money from LDL. You denied it and said you don't want the money back until this is solved. What was the issue here? The issue was someone scammed you for $40. Now it is found that $40 is in LDL's wallet. If you were a real victim, you should be more than happy that you are getting back your Big Money! If you get the money back, the issues should have been resolved. But, it seems this wasn't the primary purpose. Or was it?

Answer me one Question only. How did you know Topman is going to sell an Full member account while he was not in the forum for last two months?

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 04, 2023, 03:41:49 PM

On the telegram messages between Xavi20 and Topman21, Xavi20's English was not well constructed, but after he created this topic, all his replies had a different tone and his English was more arranged.

Good observation. Xavi20's English was like;
Don't cheat me;
I am a very poor person;
Back my btc;
Don't lying to to me;

Lolx... I said it, that one if not all of them wants to confuse the community but I assure them that eyes are on the accounts now. I doubt LDL will be able to come out from this unstained

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This is not me trying to side with LDL or Xavi20 (because of the suspicion on LDL seen by other memebers), I have read from page one to this thread down, and I have seen that no one mentioned the thing I have noticed with Xavi20.

On the telegram messages between Xavi20 and Topman21, Xavi20's English was not well constructed, but after he created this topic, all his replies had a different tone and his English was more arranged.

I don't know if anyone noticed the difference. I just feel Xavi20 tried to frame LDL, but the case is not clear enough to know if he (LDL) is saying the truth. But my pa-pa would always say to me, "Dr. Nothing is ever hidden under the sun." So, if LDL truly has some carcass in his cupboard, it will one day be exposed.

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Quote from: notscam420 on June 03, 2023, 10:50:19 PM

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on June 03, 2023, 04:54:19 PM

Interesting case. So if someone send BTC to the address I have on my profile and then he posts a lot of screenshot having conversation on Telegram or discord on a topic about me scamming $40 or $400 where I have no idea what is going on then everyone will start telling me I am a scammer? I don't know how many people are upset and against me on the forum but that will be an entire new level for me to defend myself.

@LDL, I hear you but it's hard to tell which side is real and which side is making up stories. May be someone else found a nice opportunity to fool you both?

LDL's name has been reported before and it was by lovesmayfamilis. Are you implying that lovesmayfamilis is a highly reputable forum person and has a personal animosity towards shit posters like LDL?

Connection Between LDL & Rigon : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5277020

Connection Between topman21 & Rigon : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61496460

Connection Between LDL & topman21 and scam $40 from someone : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62341712

Connection Between 8 account including LDL, topman21, Rigon : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5277020

All these accounts are controlled by 1 person and I have come to know through secret sources that he has more several alt accounts. He himself exchanges merit from his alts accounts and build accounts and join signature campaigns with all accounts and sell accounts many times. this is truth. you can check it by yourself

I think you did not understand what I said. Let me try it again.

Check my profile, you will find a BTC address which is bc1ql847ly3a0kaw6zhscc686a3lv7ve98qgay8422

Consider, somehow you [notscam420] have great anger against me and you want to do something it to downplay my forum reputation. OP [Xavi20] is a good friend of yours or may be OP is you [notscam420=Xavi20]. Both of you made a plan:

Create a fake conversation where Xavi20 will ask a btc address, notscam420 [pretending a forum member who have accounts or anything that is good to frame me] send Xavi20 my BTC address which is easy to find. Xavi20 sends the money.

Very simple and seems effective too in short term.

While you guys or you yourself is doing everything to ensure I am trapped, I have no idea what is going on.

Now the next phase of the plan.
Xavi20 creates a very similar topic and accuse me I am a scammer.

My question.
Do you think I am really a scammer?

Give short answer as yes or no.

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Quote from: Xavi20 on June 03, 2023, 11:13:18 PM

I have taken your advice and i have created a new account and am now busy with my new account.

if you have done it, then your case is finished. you can lock this thread. LDL has also previously been charged with possible multiple account connections. if anyone wants to expand on the LDL case I feel the need to create another thread that will be more appropriate for the topic. while your $40 case, is now done.
I would not support LDL in this case, there are suspicions against it. as well as the scenario that you provide. now you have got your money, and now you can focus on your new account.

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Quote from: jokers10 on June 03, 2023, 05:29:14 AM

He is very suspicious. Besides he didn't want "big money" back, he made all this show first which looks very strange. If we'll look at the transaction he provided for proof of the payment it is a payment from an exchange account (what is clear from the screens as well), so we can't trace his own address. If we'll look at the chat correspondence we can see that he asked to refund his money not giving an address — to where did he want to get a refund? To an exchange address? Looks like a staging. And when he finally gave his address here for a refund we see that it is a totally new address not to be traced.

Yes, he is. Look at his posts. Do you believe he is a newbie in this forum? Someone is a newbie who wants to buy a Forum account from Topman21, which has been inactive for almost two months. I am curious how OP knows that Topman21 was selling a Full member account when Topman did not create any sell thread. Topman was not in the forum for the last two months; how did you get his telegram account? Let's say you got his telegram from his bounty post. @OP, How did you know he is selling a full member account? Don't tell fairy tales!
Looking forward to hearing from you.

Moreover, You said $40 is big money for you. When Yahoo suggested, you give your Bitcoin Wallet and get the money from LDL. You denied it and said you don't want the money back until this is solved. What was the issue here? The issue was someone scammed you for $40. Now it is found that $40 is in LDL's wallet. If you were a real victim, you should be more than happy that you are getting back your Big Money! If you get the money back, the issues should have been resolved. But, it seems this wasn't the primary purpose. Or was it?

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on June 04, 2023, 12:14:06 AM

Hmm.. What an interesting case but thank God its finally resolved but some parties doesn't seem to think so and my only suprise after reading this post was that I didn't come to see two of the forums best jury and investigators @jollygood and @pokerplayer would have been nice to hear there own opinion on this matter. Grin

Thank you for the compliment but I think I am far from being one of the best investigators. If I have not pronounced myself yet it is because I see what look to me like many alts accounts in this thread and I do not see to what extent there may be hidden interests. I think, in fact, that the best thing would be to lock the thread and if necessary open a separate one for LDL, but it is up to the OP because I don't think the moderators will lock it.

I see that LDL has a neutral tag already and in my case, if I tag him my tag will be negative, being alt from someone we can't trust, topman21. But as I don't have it clear, I don't act.

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Hmm.. What an interesting case but thank God its finally resolved but some parties doesn't seem to think so and my only suprise after reading this post was that I didn't come to see two of the forums best jury and investigators @jollygood and @pokerplayer would have been nice to hear there own opinion on this matter. Grin

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Quote from: nutildah on June 04, 2023, 12:01:17 AM

Agree with you that there is too much circumstantial evidence and not enough direct evidence. However, for me this is enough to assume topman21 and Rigon are alt accounts:

Yeah but the connection with LDL is not clear. The writing style can be close enough because there are more than 7 billion people in the world and a lot of people will have a similar type of handwriting.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on June 03, 2023, 11:21:42 PM

So, why don't you post all the proofs you got from your secret sources? Instead of asking others to check/investigate, please present it yourself because it seems you are more interested in this case than anyone else, even more, interested than the thread creator. Please go ahead and post your proofs from secret sources. Don't ask others to present it.

Agree with you that there is too much circumstantial evidence and not enough direct evidence. However, for me this is enough to assume topman21 and Rigon are alt accounts:

There is no logical way to explain this other than topman21 is Rigon. Rigon just happened to post his application using the exact same data as topman21, who shortly thereafter altered the application and then deleted it altogether? No, there's zero chance its just a coincidence.

The excuse given by topman21 here is very feeble and matches the feebleness of the excuse Rigon recently provided as to how he is the original owner of his account (he is not).

The evidence tying in the other alt accounts is less straight-forward, although it is somewhat compelling.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on June 03, 2023, 04:54:19 PM

Interesting case. So if someone send BTC to the address I have on my profile and then he posts a lot of screenshot having conversation on Telegram or discord on a topic about me scamming $40 or $400 where I have no idea what is going on then everyone will start telling me I am a scammer? I don't know how many people are upset and against me on the forum but that will be an entire new level for me to defend myself.

@LDL, I hear you but it's hard to tell which side is real and which side is making up stories. May be someone else found a nice opportunity to fool you both?

Yeah, it's that easy to make someone fool, defame someone without any effort but only a small amount of BTC sent. Also, the return of BTC is guaranteed.

Quote from: notscam420 on June 03, 2023, 10:50:19 PM

All these accounts are controlled by 1 person and I have come to know through secret sources that he has more several alt accounts. He himself exchanges merit from his alts accounts and build accounts and join signature campaigns with all accounts and sell accounts many times. this is truth. you can check it by yourself

So, why don't you post all the proofs you got from your secret sources? Instead of asking others to check/investigate, please present it yourself because it seems you are more interested in this case than anyone else, even more, interested than the thread creator. Please go ahead and post your proofs from secret sources. Don't ask others to present it.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 02, 2023, 04:18:45 AM

Quote from: Xavi20 on June 02, 2023, 03:58:42 AM

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Quote from: Xavi20 on June 02, 2023, 12:13:20 AM

topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help. At one point I was interested in buying a full member account from him. Our contract was 80$ he blocked me after I paid 40$ earlier. what can i do now help me How can I get my money back?

You have also made a big mistake for trusting someone you just met on a platform and engage dealing your money with such user, you're already behaving like a novice without being exposed because right from reading your story first paragraph, it all tells about the kind of person you could also be, secondly being a newbie and you've already got batched with a negative feedback, which is also an indication that you've been involved in some things you're not expected and merging your profile together with your experience will give a perfect match o the kind of person you are by yourself.

Don Pedro Dinero has a negative tag on my profile. Which I don't think is fair at the moment. He gave me a red tag because our conversation and my post mentioned that I went to purchase an account. Don Pedro Dinero tries to undermine the content of this topic with this Red Tag. doing because even senior members hugeblack & yahoo62278 are not deciding to tag me yet. then how can he jump to tag me.
I am a newbie so I won't get any fair trial. Does this scandal seem too trivial to yours?

Account sales are not illegal but they are discouraged by the community. What that means is, you can engage in the activity, but the community may tag you because to most of them only scammers buy accounts. Don Pedro is 1 who dislikes account sales. He is allowed to tag you (I wouldn't. I rarely tag account sellers) if he wishes.

What you can do Listen very closely is

a. Post your btc address
b. Get a refund
c. log out if your account
d. make a new account not in any way related to the 1 you are on now
e. go on with life

This is the easiest way for you to go as having multiple accounts is allowed and not discouraged. Since you are not banned, this is acceptable. If you wish to pursue fact finding on LDL you can at your own leisure.

topman21/LDL was scam my 40$. However, it was later returned after being caught. I don't want to say anything more about it. But one thing is a scammer can never be trusted.
I have taken your advice and i have created a new account and am now busy with my new account.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on June 03, 2023, 04:54:19 PM

Interesting case. So if someone send BTC to the address I have on my profile and then he posts a lot of screenshot having conversation on Telegram or discord on a topic about me scamming $40 or $400 where I have no idea what is going on then everyone will start telling me I am a scammer? I don't know how many people are upset and against me on the forum but that will be an entire new level for me to defend myself.

@LDL, I hear you but it's hard to tell which side is real and which side is making up stories. May be someone else found a nice opportunity to fool you both?

LDL's name has been reported before and it was by lovesmayfamilis. Are you implying that lovesmayfamilis is a highly reputable forum person and has a personal animosity towards shit posters like LDL?

Connection Between LDL & Rigon : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5277020

Connection Between topman21 & Rigon : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61496460

Connection Between LDL & topman21 and scam $40 from someone : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62341712

Connection Between 8 account including LDL, topman21, Rigon : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5277020

All these accounts are controlled by 1 person and I have come to know through secret sources that he has more several alt accounts. He himself exchanges merit from his alts accounts and build accounts and join signature campaigns with all accounts and sell accounts many times. this is truth. you can check it by yourself

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Interesting case. So if someone send BTC to the address I have on my profile and then he posts a lot of screenshot having conversation on Telegram or discord on a topic about me scamming $40 or $400 where I have no idea what is going on then everyone will start telling me I am a scammer? I don't know how many people are upset and against me on the forum but that will be an entire new level for me to defend myself.

@LDL, I hear you but it's hard to tell which side is real and which side is making up stories. May be someone else found a nice opportunity to fool you both?

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Op is trying to confuse the whole community but it won't last so long until everything is discovered. I have this strong feeling that there's a hidden truth that needs to be told. Either LDL or Op knows it or both.
We shouldn't forget easily that topman21 was account that was bought not long ago and it was bursted. It could be that the drama is between Topman21 (or LDL according to address link) and Op. Just speculating.

Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 10:30:16 PM

Why have I been framed?

Your story didn't sound factual although.

Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 10:30:16 PM

I have a request for you to think about it. If I (LDL) were multi of topman21 could I self harm myself.

Can you provide evidence where LDL harmmed topman21?

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Quote from: Arigatoalexis on June 03, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 10:30:16 PM

Why have I been framed?

I will tell you the whole story of this plot, so you can easily understand how I was framed here.

The incident happened a long time ago when a manager named "Kakatua" was running a forum project with his multi account group. Then a famous user of my Bengali community "invincible49" introduced the Kakatua group as a multi group. And their accounts are given negative trust for the offense of multiple accounts.
Since then, the "Kakatua" group has developed a grudge against invincible49, and the revenge of that grudge is the current event.

The Kakatua group didn't stop after getting feedback from 34 other accounts including kakatua. From then on began the "SmallRabbit" management fraud. Their journey could not go far. Invincible stops them from cheating and destroys the entire group by putting them under a penalty.

Since then he distanced himself from Bounty Manager and started his journey with a bought account "Smartaction" and he started working on a reputable campaign. But even from there invincible49 caught him and managed to get the account back to its original owner.

In each case invincible49 then plays a role in delivering the cheating cycle.

Now the bottom line is that the cheating cycle has been repeatedly damaged by invincible49 but in no case they have been able to retaliate. As a result, the fraud circle later compared invincible49 to me and started thinking that I (LDL) was personally invincible49 (Now inactive) and they took a kind of invisible revenge on me with their created group (nitscam420/Xavi20/Topman21....). Forcing report and sending a planned $40 bitcoin (to my LDL address) connected to (Topman21) report which was all their planned plot or animosity.

I have a request for you to think about it. If I (LDL) were multi of topman21 could I self harm myself. Actually I am caught in an invisible web of deception. Please think about it and then decide. I am waiting for your decision.

Proof :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54059655
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54075994
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54403983
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54448749
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57621003
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57633244
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57640947
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58402850

Kakatua(34+ accounts)
SmallRabbit
Smartaction
Topman21 (Dramatically destroyed this account just to punish LDL and Invincible49).
notscam420
Xavi20

All his schemes have been betrayed by invincible49 and he wants to take invisible revenge by thinking of me as invincible49. Kakatua/Xavi20/SmallRabbit/Smartaction/topman21/notscam420 has proof of hundreds of scams in the links above.

When you weren't under pressure, you could create better stories. You don't have any proofs that the Kakatua group believes you are invincible49.

Topman21's marking by lovesmayfamilis as a sold or hacked account in July 2022 has evidence.

Topman21 was purchased or hacked to punish LDL? Topman21 punished LDL by sending merits? Topman21 punished LDL by making it its favorite to send merits? Topman21 once more punished LDL by sending $40 six months later? What a clever way to exact revenge.

Good catch man. LDL is trying to make a lot of plays here. But again and again the plays he made are failing. and the audience is not liking it. He says that Topman21 carried out a planned attack to harm him. but a little investigation reveals that Topman21 is clearly the alt of LDL. it is very interesting

Quote from: Arigatoalexis on June 03, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

Quote from: dkbit98 on June 02, 2023, 02:03:31 PM

This address was used several times so I am assuming this is not the first time someone pretended to sell accounts.
I think there is zero chances someone would intentionally pick exactly this address posted from LDL, especially since he doesn't have any reputation in forum like he claims and he exchanged merits with topman21.
This is obviously one of his his alt accounts:

https://i.ibb.co/31NRZqp/img54773afee53d6b42b3487c72ec488703.jpg
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=LDL&from=topman21

Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 03:00:42 AM

Alhamdulillah. Today is our holy Friday Jumuah here. I was busy in namaz so I could not reply you in time. Hope I will reply you.

You were busy. Is this the reason you accidentally gave an address associated with LDL?

Yes, the incident happened here that a thief steals hard all night. and then left the stolen goods in the house of a reputable king Grin

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