topman21 scam my 40$ help me - page 3.

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This is a very complex issues, we all knows the truth but because there's no way account will be connected without any relationship between them either by from same locality. Maybe from one group, because I believe too well that there are lot of people who were introduced to this forum through a friend, brother and so on but due to their ignorant one might send funds to each other thinking is a free place without knowing they are endangering themselves.
The truth is from some post shared here you would know there is something phishy about the whole story but I am glade he LDL has refunded the op.

Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 06:19:02 PM

Hello Xavi20 here your funds..
Tx: 41cd90f5888210e4503cd8c7061e86d4a60e94ded56cefd4870c0b5e5ffc9fc5

Sometimes you need to very mindful

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Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 09:18:04 PM

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on June 02, 2023, 09:08:24 PM

Sir I will tell you something whether you believe it or not, you must know the truth.

If I (LDL) and Topman21 were the same user, would I (LDL) have harmed myself? I almost lost my account as a hero member. Why should I use my own account which is already entered in the campaign of Hhampuz reputed manager sir. I told all my true story to my community's biggest trusted user Little Mouse brother. I know you won't believe me right now. But the truth is that I was just a victim of a conspiracy. Analyze the matter more deeply with your wise judgment and protect me from this conspiracy.

Well, I haven't tagged you because I see reasonable doubts and the only tag I can see in your profile is a neutral one, so it doesn't do harm. Even if you get just one or maybe up to two negative ones it will depend on Hhampuz's judgement on the case if he lets you stay in the campaign. But just as I have reasonable doubts on one side, I have reasonable doubts on the other, just by your explanations I cannot know that you are innocent.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on June 02, 2023, 09:08:24 PM

Sir I will tell you something whether you believe it or not, you must know the truth.

If I (LDL) and Topman21 were the same user, would I (LDL) have harmed myself? I almost lost my account as a hero member. Why should I use my own account which is already entered in the campaign of Hhampuz reputed manager sir. I told all my true story to my community's biggest trusted user Little Mouse brother. I know you won't believe me right now. But the truth is that I was just a victim of a conspiracy. Analyze the matter more deeply with your wise judgment and protect me from this conspiracy.

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Quote from: Xavi20 on June 02, 2023, 06:47:05 PM

You got caught cheating so returned the bitcoins. If you could hide the crime, would you decide to return them? why did you tried to deceive me? I want to know the answer from you. I will forgive you on my behalf but I am curious to know what is the secret behind your deception. please tell

I still don't know what else you are trying to get here op, your Money has been returned please kindly lock this thread as I don't think anyone would be interested in continuing this discussion. You can maybe continue your chat with him on telegram if you so want to speak with him and consider locking this thread okay

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Quote from: Xavi20 on June 02, 2023, 06:47:05 PM

You got caught cheating so returned the bitcoins. If you could hide the crime, would you decide to return them? why did you tried to deceive me? I want to know the answer from you. I will forgive you on my behalf but I am curious to know what is the secret behind your deception. please tell

You have been given very good advice above and another colleague has repeated it. I wouldn't have done it, as it's easy to find out for yourself and I'm not in favour of making it easy for those who want to cheat on the forum from the start to make money.

However, I see that you are not following the good advice you have been given, which is that now that you have been returned the money, you log out, forget about this account and go on with your life.

If LDL has cheated the community will take care of him. He's already have a neutral tag so far, and the problem for him is that it is not the same to create an account again if you are a newbie like you, than if you are a Sr Member who is monetising it like him, as it can take you at least 10 months to create an account again and start getting paid the same amount if everything goes well.

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Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 06:19:02 PM

Quote from: Xavi20 on June 02, 2023, 06:01:30 PM

Here is my Bitcoin address : 33cvKN2B3nrntP3uYA1eVGfqiQtCK6xRuG

Hello Xavi20 here your funds..

Tx: 41cd90f5888210e4503cd8c7061e86d4a60e94ded56cefd4870c0b5e5ffc9fc5

You got caught cheating so returned the bitcoins. If you could hide the crime, would you decide to return them? why did you tried to deceive me? I want to know the answer from you. I will forgive you on my behalf but I am curious to know what is the secret behind your deception. please tell

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Quote from: Xavi20 on June 02, 2023, 06:01:30 PM

Here is my Bitcoin address : 33cvKN2B3nrntP3uYA1eVGfqiQtCK6xRuG

Hello Xavi20 here your funds..

Tx: 41cd90f5888210e4503cd8c7061e86d4a60e94ded56cefd4870c0b5e5ffc9fc5

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Quote from: hugeblack on June 02, 2023, 12:37:38 PM

Quote from: Little Mouse on June 02, 2023, 04:54:57 AM

I can't see anything LDL has left to explain.

After a little thought, I think that @OP should get his money, so I stand with Yahoo's comment.
Follow these instructions, post your refund BTC add, get your money, and create a new account if you want to continue in the forum.

Good Morning

Sorry for the delay reply. i was sleep Because here was night. I agree with you and I am giving my bitcoin address here to get my bitcoin back. But my question is where, there is clear evidence that the recent LDL by the name of topman21 stole my money, will he have no punishment here?
Here we can see that a person called notscam420 has given clear proof that LDL is totally connected with topman21 and he has been doing various activities in this forum with Hugh account. But here I was cheated and I was given red tag but topman21/LDL was a thief and everything was forgiven. what kind of judgment.

Here is my Bitcoin address : 33cvKN2B3nrntP3uYA1eVGfqiQtCK6xRuG

Quote from: dkbit98 on June 02, 2023, 03:03:31 PM

Coins should be returned to original sender, BUT that doesn't mean everything should end with that.

Such incident may happen again with someone else so it needs appropriate punishment. I am a newbie so you guys know which one would be better. I leave it up to you. But do something so that no one else who sees this incident dares to do such a thing. Thanks for your visit and oversight

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Quote from: Cuenta Alternativa on June 02, 2023, 01:44:34 AM

Quote from: Xavi20 on June 02, 2023, 01:13:20 AM

At one point I was interested in buying a full member account from him.

That is cheating. And I wouldn't be surprised if you end up getting some nice red paints on your profile because of it. Just because you are poor doesn't mean you have to cheat, because we have many poor people in the forum that acting in an honest way have managed to earn money with signature campaigns and other activities that is above the average salary of their country.

I do frown at the idea of having to buy an account but if we're to be logical following forum rules there's no illegality in the purchasing of an account only that the forum discourages members from doing so. And I sense that part of the reasons for that among others is to encourage originality amongst forum members.

As for the young man that has ended up falling victim of account sell scam I believe you have all it takes to build an account of yours from the scratch wether you're poor or not isn't an excuse, it's just quite unfortunate that you had to lose money that you don't even have. A lesson learnt!

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Quote from: hugeblack on June 02, 2023, 04:09:44 AM

Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 04:00:42 AM

The above address is mine but today someone sent 40 dollars (BTC) using my address.
But surprisingly someone has used my address to destroy my reputation. I know nothing about this.

Can you explain more details? How can someone use your address to ruin your reputation? Has your wallet been emptied, or is it that $40?
It's a strange coincidence, so try to explain in detail, otherwise you will be accused.

Huge, there are different kinds of drama in Bitcointalk, but stumbling on this post has exposed me to a totally different and new drama.
An address was used for scam, the address was rightly funded and has been in use and we are saying about someone wanting to ruin his reputation?
Well, LDL would have escaped this but more evidences and connections are unfolding.

Another drama is a newbie wanting to buy account, got scammed and was lucky to get this money back Grin

Obviously the luckiest person I have seen in Bitcointalk.
Even yahoo62278 had to tell him the process to start again with a new account. Indeed BTT is now very lenient and accommodating. I remember how tough it was in my newbie days.

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Coins should be returned to original sender, BUT that doesn't mean everything should end with that.

Quote from: Cantsay on June 02, 2023, 02:29:48 AM

I just searched the wallet address you provided and I was shocked to see that it was connected to a different account, I search scanned Blockchain.com to see if the wallet had only one transaction history or more and to also try to check if I'd see any connections with Topman but unfortunately it was connected to someone else.

This address was used several times so I am assuming this is not the first time someone pretended to sell accounts.
I think there is zero chances someone would intentionally pick exactly this address posted from LDL, especially since he doesn't have any reputation in forum like he claims and he exchanged merits with topman21.
This is obviously one of his his alt accounts:

https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=LDL&from=topman21

Quote from: notscam420 on June 02, 2023, 05:43:22 AM

It took a while longer to post because I thought about this for a long time and did some investigation. I find a lot of similarities here with topman21 with LDL. I'm posting some evidence here so you can check it out a bit.

Sorry for ruining someone religious day, but this is clear evidence of multi-accounting and probably similar scamming cheating behavior.

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on June 02, 2023, 12:57:06 PM

The way you reacted to the pumpkin carving accusation compared to the way you're reacting here are very different, almost polar opposites. From one extreme to the other, but both reactions point to guilt. I don't see any compelling evidence to justify a red-tag just yet, but I'm starting to believe you deserve one.

Please don't tell me he participated in Pizza contest as well? Roll Eyes

Oh wait a minute, he did ^{someone want to check hand witting styles?}:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62316058

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I tried to go through LDL's post history to see if he's active in bursting multiple accounts and scammers here in the forum, because that could be one of the reasons why someone would want to try to ruin another person's reputation here in the forum for some kind of a petty revenge or so.

So from everything that has transpired here today, it is possible for someone to just go through my profile pickup of the addresses I have posted here in the forum, create two telegram account named it "Cantsay" and then forged a conversation as if I went into trade with him adding the address in the conversation (just as in Op) and then deliberately send money to the account, This could be what possibly occured here.

It's kind of scary if this hypothesis was to be true, about scammers forging proof to get you tagged by others.

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Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 04:00:42 AM

Alhamdulillah. Today is our holy Friday Jumuah here. I was busy in namaz so I could not reply you in time. Hope I will reply you.

Why is it that scammers often take refuge in religious proclamations when exposed? Insha'allah you're are telling the truth, but I'm sorry to say that when I first saw this post I suspected you were lying. Then notscam420 posted some very compelling circumstantial evidence, and so did lovesmayfamilis. If you'll notice neither of those members are in my trust inclusions because I often think they are over zealous in their search for cheaters, and I tend to be very cautious and distrusting of their reports. In this case, however I think they might be on to something.

The way you reacted to the pumpkin carving accusation compared to the way you're reacting here are very different, almost polar opposites. From one extreme to the other, but both reactions point to guilt. I don't see any compelling evidence to justify a red-tag just yet, but I'm starting to believe you deserve one.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on June 02, 2023, 04:54:57 AM

I can't see anything LDL has left to explain.

After a little thought, I think that @OP should get his money, so I stand with Yahoo's comment.
Follow these instructions, post your refund BTC add, get your money, and create a new account if you want to continue in the forum.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 02, 2023, 05:18:45 AM

What you can do Listen very closely is

a. Post your btc address
b. Get a refund
c. log out if your account
d. make a new account not in any way related to the 1 you are on now
e. go on with life

As for @LDL, I think that something strange is happening, but it is not the appropriate place for such discussions. Either someone creates a new topic related to this story, or the current proof is sent to the campaign manager.

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Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 04:13:29 AM

Someone send me BTC by damaging my reputation and I obviously refund him .
But why did he ruin my reporation? I know nothing about this.

Reputation Roll Eyes

do you know what is reputation? who know you on the forum. only some of shit poster on your local board like you know you.You just make some shit post and up your rank quickly by taking merit from your other alt accounts, it's called reputation?

Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 04:13:29 AM

Here hash of transaction: bd17673364e3247eb57d8853aa4ff024a0926d7afbd789a1142d99e7a046085d

Op already post the txID so you don't need to post it again. just explain how did it happen. you are completely connected with topman21. I have already post a valid proof.

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Quote from: Cuenta Alternativa on June 02, 2023, 09:17:05 AM

Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 08:39:47 AM

I have spent over 34 days with this account in just a few months. If it takes me so long to manage one account, how do you believe it is possible for me to run multiple accounts?

That doesn't mean anything, because it counts the time even if you are logged in without doing anything on the forum and you have your computer open doing other things. In the last few weeks you have made about 25-28 weekly posts with this account, which is the average that most of us do. That gives you enough time to manage an alt or two if you have a job, or lots of alts if you don't have other jobs. I have a 40 hour a week job and it gives me enough to manage two accounts, counting that I have a few things going on in my life apart from work and my time on the forum.

Your words are true. But you can trust me and I have never learned to be complacent in my education. If I have ever adopted a dishonest way, God himself will judge it. And please bless me so that I can serve bitcoin forum as honestly as you in future.

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Quote from: LDL on June 02, 2023, 08:39:47 AM

I have spent over 34 days with this account in just a few months. If it takes me so long to manage one account, how do you believe it is possible for me to run multiple accounts?

That doesn't mean anything, because it counts the time even if you are logged in without doing anything on the forum and you have your computer open doing other things. In the last few weeks you have made about 25-28 weekly posts with this account, which is the average that most of us do. That gives you enough time to manage an alt or two if you have a job, or lots of alts if you don't have other jobs. I have a 40 hour a week job and it gives me enough to manage two accounts, counting that I have a few things going on in my life apart from work and my time on the forum.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on June 02, 2023, 08:25:17 AM

LDL, you see the truth come out against your will. I said you were a scammer from the very beginning of the pumpkin contest, and you really are. You have spawned your alternate accounts by passing merit to your alternate accounts in your local section, and now that you can't handle them, what are you forced to sell?
I know you're lying, but after I caught those early accounts, I know all your new accounts, and I'm waiting for the hour when you're wrong. Shit always pops up.

You may have looked at me with suspicion from the beginning but you are very experienced and wise so how do you believe I can manage multiple accounts with so much time spent on this account. It is definitely impossible. I always believe in honesty and I never take dishonest path. If I ever take a wrong path, I will surely get the punishment for it.

I have spent over 34 days with this account in just a few months. If it takes me so long to manage one account, how do you believe it is possible for me to run multiple accounts?

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LDL, you see the truth come out against your will. I said you were a scammer from the very beginning of the pumpkin contest, and you really are. You have spawned your alternate accounts by passing merit to your alternate accounts in your local section, and now that you can't handle them, what are you forced to sell?
I know you're lying, but after I caught those early accounts, I know all your new accounts, and I'm waiting for the hour when you're wrong. Shit always pops up.

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Quote from: Xavi20 on June 02, 2023, 04:43:20 AM

I agree with you. I will not take the money back now. Until we get a clear solution to this problem. I have some personal questions

1. Why a person can use LDL wallet address to damage their reputation. Where $40 is a large amount. And no scammer wants to miss out. So I don't think any way a scammer would send $40 to someone else's address. I want a clear explanation of this. Because if we ignore it as a simple problem, someone else may face a bigger financial loss in the future

2. Why is LDL only excited to return btc without explaining anything here. and he seems to think it's a common thing

You could have established the fact that its topman if you only send him a confirmation message account here, this is the established procedure to check if the one you are talking to on telegram is the right guy on the forum, but unfortunately, you missed it and you failed to establish the connection.

You just take the fund move on and learn from this this is all you want to get your money back aren't you asking for help?

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