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Quote from: MagicSmoker on March 09, 2018, 01:26:03 PM

Hmm... quite the drama here. It seems the simplest solution would be to make the OP a moderator in the French language sections and see if things improve. He's been here for almost 3 years and seems to be quite motivated to get things done so What's The Worst That Could Happen?

Yes, that's the simplest solution.

We report since theymos tell us to do it, nothing is done. Also we ask for pinned message : Our moderator doesn't care

We ask for sub-forum : he doesn't care.

Our actual moderator doesn't care about us at all.

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Quote from: asche on March 09, 2018, 11:42:28 AM

I have been reporting for weeks now. And most reports aren't handled accordingly. For instance several threads had been made with a google translation, they are still up and running after several reports.

The Chinese local board are also having this issue at the moment, the local moderator in charge is fairly inactive, I guess the only way you could do now is to keep on reporting those threads and wait for the local moderator in charge to come online and handle those reports.

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Hmm... quite the drama here. It seems the simplest solution would be to make the OP a moderator in the French language sections and see if things improve. He's been here for almost 3 years and seems to be quite motivated to get things done so What's The Worst That Could Happen?

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I forgot more than you will ever know.

I have been reporting for weeks now. And most reports aren't handled accordingly. For instance several threads had been made with a google translation, they are still up and running after several reports.

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Quote from: CodyAlfaridzi on March 02, 2018, 07:20:49 AM

Quote from: Saint-loup on February 23, 2018, 03:35:32 PM

Does anyone know how we can see if a report is marked "good" or "bad" ?
Is there a special link for that?

None at the moment. Admins are the only one who could see it, I guess.

Quote from: JohnUser on March 02, 2018, 06:26:53 AM

The others local sub-forum have child boards, they pinned the important messages, many of them have 2 moderators, we are the last one with so much mess and without any moderator.

It must be bad to have a messy local section. Keep doing theymos' hint (reporting the mess) and push this thread every once in a while to keep everyone (including the staffs) updated.

Thank you

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Quote from: Saint-loup on February 23, 2018, 03:35:32 PM

Does anyone know how we can see if a report is marked "good" or "bad" ?
Is there a special link for that?

None at the moment. Admins are the only one who could see it, I guess.

Quote from: JohnUser on March 02, 2018, 06:26:53 AM

The others local sub-forum have child boards, they pinned the important messages, many of them have 2 moderators, we are the last one with so much mess and without any moderator.

It must be bad to have a messy local section. Keep doing theymos' hint (reporting the mess) and push this thread every once in a while to keep everyone (including the staffs) updated.

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The others local sub-forum have child boards, they pinned the important messages, many of them have 2 moderators, we are the last one with so much mess and without any moderator.

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So...our modo doesn't need help...ok.

But it's always a total disorder in our altcoins section, it's normal, there aren't any child boards. Discussions, ann, mining, ...everything in the same bag !
Everyone can see there are 10 différents boards in the english altcoins section !

Yes, i know, it's an english forum. Yes, i know it's a bitcoin forum.
Yes, our modo say altcoins section is the "forum thrash can" and if he could, he'll delete it.

I'm sure everyone here love bitcoin, but sometimes we want to see others things in crypto, we want to see evolution of cryptos, new ideas, new concepts....
Not everyone speaks english (me first, look how i write Cheesy

), local sections are needed.

If admins (and modo) don't want french and altcoins, erase them, for now it's more and more difficult to read.

But I'm sure someone will help us. Thanks !

(sorry for my bad english)

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Quote from: theymos on February 19, 2018, 02:33:07 PM

There aren't enough reports there. Here are the top reporters over the last 90 days, unhandled reports only:

Code:

+-------+-----------+----------------+
| count | ID | reporter |
+-------+-----------+----------------+
| 9 | 1056600 | baba0000000000 |
| 7 | 1007192 | JeremyB |
| 7 | 1082600 | kenzawak |
| 3 | 1456247 | eklA |
| 2 | 225121 | franckuestein |
| 2 | 1580039 | asche |

Even if you look at the handled reports over the last 90 days, only a few people have more than 10 reports.

Report bad posts even if you perceive that nothing is being done, as report stats are one of the primary methods I use to look at how moderation is going in a section, and to assess potential new moderators. Pay attention to your report accuracy; I see a lot of reports marked bad in the French sections. (If you think that a report is incorrectly marked bad, complain about that to your local moderator or in Meta.)

Hello

Theymos talked about bad marked reports above.

Does anyone know how we can see if a report is marked "good" or "bad" ?
Is there a special link for that?

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Quote from: scutzi128 on February 20, 2018, 11:29:56 AM

a little more order in the altcoins section of FRA local section (with 2 or 3 sub-sections, to split ANN/bounties/general discussion about altcoins) and nothing else...

Nothing else.. We are hundreds to ask 15-30 mn work, since months and months, it's sound crazy but it's real.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on February 20, 2018, 07:42:17 AM

You just expect us to choose a French person at random to become a mod? What makes you think whoever we chose would do the job adequately? The person who is actively reporting would be the best candidate but if you're discouraged from reporting then that person will likely be discouraged from moderating as well.

There is almost "no moderation" in the French forum so it's not difficult to do better than the current guy. I am going to repeat again but: Reporting for what Hilariousetc? To see the reports marked as bad? Why do you want people to continue to report if nothing is done, honestly would you do it yourself? I bet NO.

There are several Legendary members in the French section who could manage the forum. It's not that the rank matter but just to say, there are a lot of people who are old members of Bitcointalk and active for years and know very well the French section.

No need to reply, nothing against you, but I think I am done -.-

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Listen man I am french and I Know slang if you want to gossip with that ignorant crap do it on on of your own time not on a forum to educate and be educated.

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@CYFRPNK :

Next time don't use google translate 1st !

2nd : explain us what is racist in his post, he only say he don't want to report as French's did with Jews.

3rd : leave us (at least on this thread), we never see you in the french sub-forum, you've got no idea what we are talking about

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 20, 2018, 07:42:17 AM

Quote from: JohnUser on February 19, 2018, 03:23:32 PM

So we have to report hundreds times that our moderator don't care with the french subforum ?

No, not hundreds, but as theymos and I have mentioned reporting is the best way to choose a candidate. If you're not willing to report then I'm not sure why you would be willing to moderate the section. Besides, if the French section is such a mess as people are claiming then reporting hundreds should be easy, but if nobody is willing to out in the effort then you can't complain.

Ok, we will reports many posts. Then we will see if any results come. Also as we said many times in this thread how can we report that our moderator doesn't want to to pin the important posts neither create sub sections, it's a mystery.

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Check out this racist guys post in the french forum

Bah en 40 tu aurais donné des juifs et les bons coins à champignons. Moi pas.

De tous les forums que j'ai fréquenté (petits ou grands), je n'ai jamais eu à reporter à un modo. S'il a signé, c'est qu'il avait la foi, car tu sais que tu vas en chier (ou alors tu es très naif).

Qu'il n'ait plus le temps, ça arrive. Qu'il n'ait plus la foi, ça arrive. Qu'il pense que les Altcoins sont de la merde c'est son droit. Mais je ne suis pas son nègre pour rapporter les posts à modérer et il y en a... Entre le newbie qui pose la même question qu'un post un peu plus bas et le chien galeux qui vendrait une couille pour placer son referal.

Le truc qui m'étonne (en général, pas seulement la section Fr), c'est le peu de modo par section locale. Je ne sais pas comment ça se passe dans les autres langues, mais ce forum n'est qu'au début d'une grande vague de nouveaux venus, et le laisser dans l'état actuel (à l'abandon ou presque), c'est aller dans le mur. Y'a pas de honte à demander de l'aide, il doit y avoir une équipe de modos. Non, je ne postule pas

TRANSLATES TOO

"Well in 40 you would have given Jews and [url = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = ehq8TxJDe10] good mushroom wedges [/ url]. Not me.

Of all the forums I attended (big or small), I never had to postpone a modo. If he signed, he had faith, because you know you're going to shit (or you're very naive).

That he does not have time, it happens. That he no longer has faith, it happens. That he thinks Altcoins are shit is his right. But I'm not his nigger to report posts to moderate and there are ... Between the newbie who asks the same question as a post a little lower and mangy dog who would sell a ball to place his referal.

The thing that surprises me (in general, not just the Fr section) is the lack of modo by local section. I do not know how it happens in other languages, but this forum is only at the beginning of a big wave of newcomers, and leave it in the current state (almost abandoned), c is going to the wall. There is no shame in asking for help, there must be a team of mods. No, I do not apply

"

These are the kind of messages I have been seeing in there

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Quote from: JohnUser on February 19, 2018, 03:23:32 PM

So we have to report hundreds times that our moderator don't care with the french subforum ?

No, not hundreds, but as theymos and I have mentioned reporting is the best way to choose a candidate. If you're not willing to report then I'm not sure why you would be willing to moderate the section. Besides, if the French section is such a mess as people are claiming then reporting hundreds should be easy, but if nobody is willing to out in the effort then you can't complain.

Quote from: asche on February 19, 2018, 03:25:11 PM

So you actually expect every user to do the work, the mod is suppose to do?
Users aren't supposed to enforce rules, mods are.

Most mods are chosen this way. Think of it like a trial for a job, but people make reports to help the community. No staff member should be expected to patrol their sub board constantly all day looking for things to do. If you spot something that breaks the rules then report it and help out, but if you don't want to then fine but don't complain when other staff members can't see the need for another mod when there's no reports coming in from that section.

Quote from: LeGaulois on February 19, 2018, 06:05:18 PM

Discouraged, members stopped to report posts a long time ago, it's what I was explaining, see yourself with the table you posted it's a good example. Why are we supposed to report when we know nothing is done? come on. I do use the report button on the different forums but why should I waste my time doing it in the french forum? Report marked as bad because it's is a way to tell us, I do what I want. (my accuracy is fine with 99%, but I am not going to waste my time anymore in the french forum, I even stopped to be active in for obvious reasons)

You just expect us to choose a French person at random to become a mod? What makes you think whoever we chose would do the job adequately? The person who is actively reporting would be the best candidate but if you're discouraged from reporting then that person will likely be discouraged from moderating as well.

Quote from: CYFRPNK on February 20, 2018, 04:32:02 AM

I Speak fluent french and do not mind helping in any way possible. If someone could kindly let me know the order in which things get dealt with I would be more than happy to assist.

Then start reporting.

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I Speak fluent french and do not mind helping in any way possible. If someone could kindly let me know the order in which things get dealt with I would be more than happy to assist.

Best,

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Quote from: theymos on February 19, 2018, 02:33:07 PM

There aren't enough reports there. Here are the top reporters over the last 90 days, unhandled reports only:

Code:

+-------+-----------+----------------+
| count | ID | reporter |
+-------+-----------+----------------+
| 9 | 1056600 | baba0000000000 |
| 7 | 1007192 | JeremyB |
| 7 | 1082600 | kenzawak |
| 3 | 1456247 | eklA |
| 2 | 225121 | franckuestein |
| 2 | 1580039 | asche |

Even if you look at the handled reports over the last 90 days, only a few people have more than 10 reports.

Report bad posts even if you perceive that nothing is being done, as report stats are one of the primary methods I use to look at how moderation is going in a section, and to assess potential new moderators. Pay attention to your report accuracy; I see a lot of reports marked bad in the French sections. (If you think that a report is incorrectly marked bad, complain about that to your local moderator or in Meta.)

Discouraged, members stopped to report posts a long time ago, it's what I was explaining, see yourself with the table you posted it's a good example. Why are we supposed to report when we know nothing is done? come on. I do use the report button on the different forums but why should I waste my time doing it in the french forum? Report marked as bad because it's is a way to tell us, I do what I want. (my accuracy is fine with 99%, but I am not going to waste my time anymore in the french forum, I even stopped to be active in for obvious reasons)

Members are dealing with a forum looking like 4chan, you don't know where to go. Soon you will see in the dev section a lady with a makeup tutorial or how to get pregnant.
It's not like if I was the only asshole complaining out there, almost every French agree. It does mean there is a real problem to look at and a reassessment may be necessary

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Quote from: theymos on February 19, 2018, 02:33:07 PM

There aren't enough reports there. Here are the top reporters over the last 90 days, unhandled reports only:

Code:

+-------+-----------+----------------+
| count | ID | reporter |
+-------+-----------+----------------+
| 9 | 1056600 | baba0000000000 |
| 7 | 1007192 | JeremyB |
| 7 | 1082600 | kenzawak |
| 3 | 1456247 | eklA |
| 2 | 225121 | franckuestein |
| 2 | 1580039 | asche |

Even if you look at the handled reports over the last 90 days, only a few people have more than 10 reports.

Report bad posts even if you perceive that nothing is being done, as report stats are one of the primary methods I use to look at how moderation is going in a section, and to assess potential new moderators. Pay attention to your report accuracy; I see a lot of reports marked bad in the French sections. (If you think that a report is incorrectly marked bad, complain about that to your local moderator or in Meta.)

Strange...franckuestein seems to be more spanish than french.

Thanks LeGaulois (and the others) for trying to solve the problem...

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