Topic: Total disorder in the french forum Looking to see something done definitely. - page 5. (Read 2083 times)

So you actually expect every user to do the work, the mod is suppose to do?
Users aren't supposed to enforce rules, mods are.
Also what do we report to get a new section ? There is no function to do that.

Kindest regards

So we have to report hundreds times that our moderator don't care with the french subforum ?

"If you think that a report is incorrectly marked bad, complain about that to your local moderator or in Meta.)" its ironic because he don't care with us and never answer.

There aren't enough reports there. Here are the top reporters over the last 90 days, unhandled reports only:


Even if you look at the handled reports over the last 90 days, only a few people have more than 10 reports.

Report bad posts even if you perceive that nothing is being done, as report stats are one of the primary methods I use to look at how moderation is going in a section, and to assess potential new moderators. Pay attention to your report accuracy; I see a lot of reports marked bad in the French sections. (If you think that a report is incorrectly marked bad, complain about that to your local moderator or in Meta.)

something need to be done in french section, that's a disaster and a big disorder, we really need a good one to do something

With near one year he doesn't do anything for the french forum, why would we trust him? It's too late, we need someone else.

I could never agree with you more. I am sorry for the moderator, but either he decides to do his moderation work, or someone else does his job.

I have no other interest in being able to read comfortably without having to sort between the eternal requests for airdrop. If I abuse in another part, I am cropped, if I post something irreferent, it is deleted.

Here, just something viable, 2-3 more sections, and someone who takes care of the troublemakers.

Reports are not a solution in the french section, i don't know where all this report are lost, but it's a mess other there. I stopped posting in the french section in a regular basis due to that.
there is a lot more posting in English parts of the forum but every post are done in the right section.

I will not blame the actual modo as soy said it's a hard job and we can all understand that he don't have time or will to continue to do it.
But on the other way we deserve a local board as clean and well moderate as other local board.

I also can understand that he is a bitcoin believer and don't like alts, but why French section should be a victim of his own believe,
Alts section is available in every language, and is now probably the section with the more new content,
if he don't want to take part to it, it's his own decision
but the french community should not suffer from it.

we open this thread because we think that something as to be done from the core-team of the forum about this, and i hope that our consideration will be listen.

Hi guys, I don't come here to write a hundredth 15 lines message about our complex situation, because everything has already been said by my top buddies. I just come to claim you that NO, the current system in the local french board isn't working since the great affluence of bitcointalk last summer. Our moderator kcud_dab is no longer doing his job enough.

It's perfectly understandable that he doesn't have time or desire to do it anymore. We all have a private life with all these constraints... and no one can blame him.

But when you don't do the work anymore, you have to leave your job.

We have a lot of old users (who are very invested and who bring a lot to the bitcointalk french community since many years), who would be willing to do this work. So, for the last time, help us to make the French section as beautiful and well-ordered as yours. This is a win-win situation for the whole bitcointalk community.

soy

@hilariousetc
Thank you but reporting for what? People stopped to do it long ago when we noticed nothing is done. We can't keep clicking the report button if nothing happens after. Just to check I tried some days ago with several posts, and guess what, nothing, nada, zero, quedal...

You didn't see any reports from us because we have try to deal with our actual moderator and between us in intern.
We also did votes with 85% for a new moderator : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24947101

We are all outraged with that one WHO DON'T CARE WITH US - sorry for uppercase's but it's the only thing to say. The rest is not really important.

that's exactly what our moderator said to us in August 2017;
translation of his answer (bold part) : "that's exactly what I said : if you wonder that french forum is a juke and there is no report then no one give a damn about. start by reporting posts and when there will be too much we will see for a new moderator...". nothing moved from this time.
he adds at the end of the quote (another bold part) that "if it only depends of me, altcoins section should be closed"

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in fact, that's interesting : it draws a line between two behaviors;
we could let things go as they are right now, despite users claim (and that is what longs from now a year), we could do nothing or just satisfied ourselves with what we already have (like "report to moderator" and... that's pretty the only thing we have).
or we could try something new about, something we ask from now a relative long period, and in this exact case, just engaging new moderator, create 2/3 subsections for altcoins, and modifying 2/3 sections to make them more accurate for 80% of new threads.

I also understand that french section appears to be in good condition in surface, but our asking is real.
imo it's more important to prevent decline of our local section. New users always ask for same questions, and I understand why; just for instance, we got a thread "Frequently asked questions" pinned at top of "New users" section; it shows answers to questions that you could ask yourself in 2012!
Another instance is that we got a messy altcoin section, and that's impossible to follow anything in this section. I'm also thinking about poor new members who comes into, and just give up. (Guys, I know it's a bitcoin forum, but altcoins are here, that's a fact, and we can't subtract them from our eyes, so I'm not reconsidering bitcoin's position, just saying that our alt section deserves order to be clear and pleased users experiences).

The real thing is, and I pointed it out many times, we have a nice community, and we already do a great job by trying without any moderation to keep our forum clear, but that's not possible anymore right now.
Now about 90% of our section think the same thing, and that's pretty rough, because it's brake a lot our activity.

I can't really comment on the state of the French section as I can't speak French and rarely go in there but I also rarely see any reports coming from that section either. If you want to help out then keep reporting. If reports are going unhandled then staff will see there's demand for another mod.

I totally agree with that as well. I think we need sub-headings and someone to finally! sort through the topics.

By the way, we hope that merit solves this, but until then, can we have someone present and ready to sort it out! This is starting to get boring! Thank you

@Lauda

The French section is not very annoying and can be moderated easily, people are fine and calm but now it's even worse than the English forum. Imagine yourself.
 
It's simple when you let people doing "whatever they want" 1 time, 2 times, 3 times, no matter if they are doing something wrong it becomes "normal to do it" After 1 year of laxity this is what we get as a result...

Try to visit the section "Development & Technical Discussion" to create a topic asking where to find a bounty campaign, and wait to see what achow101 will do with it 

We aren't asking a lot, just something moderated. It doesn't take 30 minutes to move a topic, clicking few buttons. If you don't have time for some reasons (which is normal) then say it, ask for help, I don't know. But don't abandon your duty without telling us.

If a section can't be moderated then I think it's better to close it

Given that most sections are essentially broken, the trust system is being completely played by backroom collusions and whatnot, the forum is a few little steps away of being the Bitcoin-Wild-West-Talk[1]. Account farming? Fine. Spamming? Fine. Scamming? Fine. Just make sure you don't offend anyone with your posts or you will be called a lying, racist, shady, trust-whatever-farming user that should be jailed. Liberalists at their finest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[1] Therefore, nobody should be surprised that this affects your local board as the situation is similar in plenty of boards.

Why strong ? We don't have any more french moderator, so only a little bit moderation would be welcome. Not someone who say "guys you can use the report button" and that don't care with the rest, that don't deal with us, that don't want to pin any message, whatever we all ask him it's "NO" (in fact he doesn't answer).

The french moderator is like Satoshi for us, we are not sure he really exist.

+1
It's over a year the french forum isn't moderated by the moderator. Once he said he is not interested to read the altcoin section so how he can moderate without even take some minutes to read (OOOOh he waits for the members to do his job by clicking the report button which nobody is using since nothing it's done. Now it's a forum for how to Make Money Online ):

This forum would definitely need some strong moderation

totally agree with Legaulois

Look like it's too difficult for him.

It has been over 10 months that our moderator hasn't done anything and don't want anyone to help him, so we need a new one in the french subforum.

It's an unbelievable mess, nothing is at the right place, newbie can't understand how the forum or bitcoin works, old one's have to read ann in english because in french our moderator don't want to create a simple sub [ANN] (why do people pay for translation to french?), he doesn't want to pin important messages, he doesn't want anything we ask him since months and months.. and he also doesn't want anyone to help him.

He also said that if he can he would delete the ann section.. Do you believe this ?

Don't know what to say more..