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legendary
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Anyone done an updated regression lately? Awe hasn't posted since December, nothing on crypto since his last update.
sr. member
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Chart was updated by Awe and Wonder:
https://twitter.com/Awe_andWonder/status/1071995130092113920


Made new video about it, enjoy  Cool

"Serious Undervaluation is Here"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9JsmelO12s&t
newbie
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From Trolololo's formula I've calculated today's % Spread based on today's actual Market Cap. of $115.7 B.

The Spread comes to -52.8 %.

See https://youtu.be/MvQzjyhtjRg for explanation.

Indeed currently 252B is trendline/fair value of all crypto's, so 115B would be -54%, today 135B is -49%, undervaluation to fair value.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10%5E(3.23720++*+ln((number+of+weeks+since+2009+Jan+09)%2Fweeks)+-+8.81809)

Great job Marc, hope you update chart. follow you.
sr. member
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From Trolololo's formula I've calculated today's % Spread based on today's actual Market Cap. of $115.7 B.

The Spread comes to -52.8 %.

See https://youtu.be/MvQzjyhtjRg for explanation.

Indeed currently 252B is trendline/fair value of all crypto's, so 115B would be -54%, today 135B is -49%, undervaluation to fair value.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10%5E(3.23720++*+ln((number+of+weeks+since+2009+Jan+09)%2Fweeks)+-+8.81809)
newbie
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From Trolololo's formula I've calculated today's % Spread based on today's actual Market Cap. of $115.7 B.

The Spread comes to -52.8 %.

See https://youtu.be/MvQzjyhtjRg for explanation.
newbie
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Awe and Wonder on twitter does a great job too with the log regression chart and other interesting stuff:
https://twitter.com/Awe_andWonder

Don't think he is doing log regression on total market cap thou
If anyone thinks Trololo's work was a bit difficult, Awe&Wonder's paper in Medium is even more so. But I think I've got the jist of what he is saying.

In my words he reckons the neutral btc price should be about $4800. Since we are already below this price at present bitcoin could now be considered to have become undervalued. For me that means now is more or less time to consider buying.
sr. member
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Where is Trolololo when you need him lol!

yup Smiley

Awe and Wonder on twitter does a great job too with the log regression chart and other interesting stuff:
https://twitter.com/Awe_andWonder

Don't think he is doing log regression on total market cap thou
sr. member
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Where is Trolololo when you need him lol!
legendary
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Is this possible that somebody or Trololo will update this chart frequently?

Donate Trololo for this amazing work. If you find it valuable donate even more.

His Bitcoin one is also very good and deserves donations for an update: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9293342
I didn't entirely understood how this is calculated at all. I am trying to see how it is and why it should work but anyway I look at it shows only upto today and nothing about the future.

If we can't really calculate the future this is jut an algorithm that shows us what the marketcap should be looking like according to this also however nothing further? If so than why not just take a look at the marketcap itself instead of this also? If it has a possibility of showing the marketcap for a future time than how it could be done? It just shows today's and that's something we can find ourselves.
newbie
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Nevermind, current trendline at 200B according to your last link to calculator:

Calculate today's trendline value HERE

Mark how do you know the input in the wolfram alpha.  could you please explain. 
I discover your channel  and Tommyworldpower on youtube.  You guys have done a great work. 
I'm assuming you are Trolololo, lol
sr. member
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Nevermind, current trendline at 200B according to your last link to calculator:

Calculate today's trendline value HERE
sr. member
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Here is the updated chart:



Calculate today's trendline value HERE

Please, consider donating to bitcoin:19sEscR9bfH2ttXb5WbcabYbRGjq2znwPi

PS: Special thanks to Marc De Mesel, again  Wink


Observing the spread chart, we are heavily overvalued, more than 5x times the estimated value.
Only 2 times we were higher: June 2011 and nov 2013...


Legendary words now already from our one and only Trololo  Cool


Send u message Trololo, would love to see new chart but especially have your confirmation that calculator is correct?

Current trendline is at 150 billion?

Calculate today's trendline value HERE

sr. member
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Here is the updated chart:



Calculate today's trendline value HERE

Please, consider donating to bitcoin:19sEscR9bfH2ttXb5WbcabYbRGjq2znwPi

PS: Special thanks to Marc De Mesel, again  Wink


Calculator Trendline used to point to $180 Billion 1 month back, but now dropped to $150 Billion, which is right previous calculation or current one (that sems updated trololo?)
sr. member
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Hi guys, talked about Trololo chart in my latest video, "Thou Shalt Not Buy Overvaluation In Downtrend!"

Enjoy  Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Z1oBjF4ig


Summary:

Current fair historical valuation of all cryptos according to Trololo chart is $180 billion so current $260 billion is still 44% overvalued (not 70% as mentioned in video). If it is trending upwards you can still make a good buck buying overvaluation but trend is now clearly downwards for half a year. Considering past bull market (2015-2017) lasted 50% longer than previous bull market (2012-2013) (3 years instead of 2), this bear market will likely also last 50% longer than last bear market of 2014-2015 so this time 1.5 year instead of 1, for the biggest coins, 3 years instead of 2 years for smallest, which is still a very long time from here, until end 2020! Also a word on real world adoption of Byteball and Bitcoin Cash.

Recently very active on Instagram, pics and vids of my dating life Wink Check it out: https://www.instagram.com/marcdemesel/

Please share with your friends on your fb or snapchat, or retweet:
https://twitter.com/marcdemesel/status/1010160840518066176

Thanks Marc!

@Trololo could you please start accepting NANO so that we can donate to help you update the chart on a periodic basis?

Thanks.
sr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 250
The Best Investment Deserves The Largest Exposure
Hi guys, talked about Trololo chart in my latest video, "Thou Shalt Not Buy Overvaluation In Downtrend!"

Enjoy  Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Z1oBjF4ig


Summary:

Current fair historical valuation of all cryptos according to Trololo chart is $180 billion so current $260 billion is still 44% overvalued (not 70% as mentioned in video). If it is trending upwards you can still make a good buck buying overvaluation but trend is now clearly downwards for half a year. Considering past bull market (2015-2017) lasted 50% longer than previous bull market (2012-2013) (3 years instead of 2), this bear market will likely also last 50% longer than last bear market of 2014-2015 so this time 1.5 year instead of 1, for the biggest coins, 3 years instead of 2 years for smallest, which is still a very long time from here, until end 2020! Also a word on real world adoption of Byteball and Bitcoin Cash.

Recently very active on Instagram, pics and vids of my dating life Wink Check it out: https://www.instagram.com/marcdemesel/

Please share with your friends on your fb or snapchat, or retweet:
https://twitter.com/marcdemesel/status/1010160840518066176
legendary
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Has anyone access to an Excel or Google Sheet / calculator where I can plug in and do a Metcalfe analysis of price vs active users (providing my own active users values)?

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.05663v1.pdf - similar to what they've done in this paper?

sr. member
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@vapourminer

Thank you very much for your donation!  Grin
legendary
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@trolololo, you're a legend! What a fantastic graph! My suspicions about the whole cryptcurrency movement slowing down have been confirmed!!!
legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
Here is the updated chart:

https://s10.postimg.org/kzlt8lhk9/log_all_coins_marketcap_18-02-2018.jpg

Calculate today's trendline value HERE

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PS: Special thanks to Marc De Mesel, once again  Wink

sent ya a tip, tx id is in a pm.
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