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legendary
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January 18, 2020, 12:47:31 PM
Trade wars can be terrible for pretty much every sort of good and resource. Items can get overrated and additionally undersold. Ventures can lose access to items, undermining their business. Stocks can lose an incentive as financial specialists become terrified that a downturn is not too far off.

Bitcoin is another sort of advantage, and it might have an opposite relationship to the US/China tradee war to that of customary resources.


In the case of the American trade war with China, America controlled the currency used for trade while China dominated its trading volume. What America is doing now is to disarm China one by one so that it becomes weak, by:
- Tariff war
- quantitative tightening strategy
- dollar go home strategy
- tariff war
- instability in Hong Kong
- attacked through its industrial energy supply
- containment

If China buys Middle East oil 30% more expensive, so America attacks Chinese energy sources, automatically if the price of oil purchased by China is more expensive, then the price of Chinese manufactured goods is also more expensive. With the tariff war, the prices of Chinese products entering the US are also more expensive. The aim is to drive American domestic manufacturing and industry

The issue of a trade war has absolutely no significant effect on bitcoin, only with the signal that the trade war continues to place a slight fear of future business and stock prospects because the trade war is correlated to a slowing global economy. This momentum provides positive sentiment on crypto assets, especially bitcoin as an alternative investment trend other than gold. Market reactions correlate in various periods depending on external factors.
legendary
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January 18, 2020, 12:46:24 AM
crypto market and trade war between China vs US, I think it has no effect. Until now China is also in a trade war with other large countries. but there is no effect for the crypto market. if one day China uses Bitcoin or other crypto for payment, there might be a big effect on the crypto market. but now it still runs normally.
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January 17, 2020, 07:57:16 PM
I just want to discuss with you guys, what influences it will pose on the cryptocurrency if the trade war between US and China continues and maybe even worse. And also, what can ordinary investors do to avoid losses?

Trade wars can be terrible for pretty much every sort of good and resource. Items can get overrated and additionally undersold. Ventures can lose access to items, undermining their business. Stocks can lose an incentive as financial specialists become terrified that a downturn is not too far off.

Bitcoin is another sort of advantage, and it might have an opposite relationship to the US/China tradee war to that of customary resources.
legendary
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October 19, 2019, 04:33:28 AM
Decentralized cryptocurrency is not affected by political issues and relations between countries in the world.
Though it seems hard to believe, it is true. Politics and foreign relations do influence the market be it stocks, metals, commodities or crypto. The first three have a bigger impact than crypto, which is why the notion of bitcoin is not affected by politics has become popular, though its actually false in many cases.

But currently the trade war is more in a truce. We have seen China trying to get cheap hardware to sell to every company and consumers not looking to the longevity of the product go for such cheap products. Since many people think US controls the bitcoin market so they under this false pretense will think about selling off their bitcoin assets and invest in something else.

However the bigger impact of this is more on the stock market than crypto.
sr. member
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October 14, 2019, 09:13:32 AM
I just want to discuss with you guys, what influences it will pose on the cryptocurrency if the trade war between US and China continues and maybe even worse. And also, what can ordinary investors do to avoid losses?
They both are powerful nations and want to dominate each other on economic fronts but the trade war between them is related to fiat or legal currencies like USD so it wont have any significant effect on the prices and growth of cryptocurrencies.So we don't need to worry about it. It is political war between the currencies relating to financial matters and crypto is not a part of any government sysyem.
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October 14, 2019, 01:42:52 AM
in my opinion a trade war that occurred between China and America. will not have an impact on cryptocurrency. because the war that occurred was related to import and export tariffs between countries. this war will have an impact on the fiat currency exchange rate but not the digital currency. Decentralized cryptocurrency is not affected by political issues and relations between countries in the world.
hero member
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October 13, 2019, 07:13:50 AM
Honestly I don't think there will be any influence on the cryptocurrencies until and unless they go to the point where the war is going to be too serious and too big therefore I think it will be fine .. as far as we know they aren't breaking any laws and going too deep , it's all political and God for it we spin under war and recession where everything will go down .
Right now it's just in the papers not that much for real.
War is scary let's just call it a problem between two Nations .
legendary
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October 13, 2019, 06:46:47 AM
Cryto economy is not directly affected by the ongoing trade war between US and China. The conflict between two nations will affect most businesses specially those who are in import and exports industry commodity based products. If it gets worsen we can expect a high prices on basic products and people will suffer.
Thats, like you said would not affect the crypto market directly. However if we extrapolate this and in case the trade war remains, we might see a rise in price of common goods and the purchasing power of people will drop.

This may be both good and bad for crypto. Good in case people decide to move on to crypto marketplaces and promote their usage over fiat, not that prices would remain lower there but still its worth a try. It can be bad if governments decide to bottleneck crypto transactions and that could be worse for the merchants using crypto.
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October 08, 2019, 11:01:42 PM
Cryto economy is not directly affected by the ongoing trade war between US and China. The conflict between two nations will affect most businesses specially those who are in import and exports industry commodity based products. If it gets worsen we can expect a high prices on basic products and people will suffer.
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October 08, 2019, 06:31:11 AM


I'm not so.sure that trade war will influence on people to buy cryptocurrencies and increase demand. Trade war influence on supply of certain goods, it might start some financial crisis too but that doesn't mean that people will automaticly turn to cryptocurrency and abandon traditional investments and fiat currencies. In fact I don't think that is going to happen at all.

It's now ten years since bitcoin got released and we have a fair idea of what makes people adopt bitcoins. Recessions by themselves don't do it.

Banking crises do. The first time bitcoin went mainstream was during the Cyprus crisis where people's savings got confiscated to save the banks. The 2017 bubble was down to bitcoin becoming a fashionable investment amongst millenials.

So two things drive adoption: fashion and banking crises. Recessions and trade wars are irrelevant unless they also cause a banking crisis.
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October 08, 2019, 06:15:34 AM
Now the trade war is still not finished between the US and China. I think trade war will indirectly have an effect on cryptocurrency. How come? IMHO now the position of China in the trade war is not good, therefore it seems that the trade war is changing into a currency war https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/weaker-currency-could-have-a negative-impact-on-markets-2019-8-1028426214.
With the issue of the issue of currency war, I am sure it will affect the global economy. Here is in my opinion the crypto opportunity. demand will be more and more!
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October 08, 2019, 03:44:57 AM
~There is no specific statement yet on what is the reason of how the fire started but I smell something fishy, hmm. . . .

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/bitcoin-mining-farm-china-fire-cryptocurrency-innosilicon-a9128246.html

Interesting. Although I wrote that I doubted the Bitcoin ban in China, I thought that mining was banned there. I believe I read a year ago or so that miners moved from China to other places because of a new law. Also, after reading this

In early 2018 the People's Bank of China announced the State Administration of Foreign Exchange led by Pan Gongsheng would crack down on bitcoin mining. Many bitcoin mines in China had stopped operating by January 2018.

in Wikipedia, I thought that basically no one was mining in China any more. But apparently there were $10 million worth of mining equipment in a single place alone.
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October 08, 2019, 03:14:25 AM
I'm not so.sure that trade war will influence on people to buy cryptocurrencies and increase demand. Trade war influence on supply of certain goods, it might start some financial crisis too but that doesn't mean that people will automaticly turn to cryptocurrency and abandon traditional investments and fiat currencies. In fact I don't think that is going to happen at all.

Here is what I think about the trade war. IMO, the trade war will make a lot of people unemployed (the markets have crashed by up to 15% in the recent weeks). This will leave people with less money to spend and they will be forced to sell their savings (including cryptocurrency). As a result, there will be a selloff and the supply will once again outstrip the demand. In the end, it will be having a negative impact on the Bitcoin prices.
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October 07, 2019, 03:30:31 PM
Trade war is irrelevant to crypto and won't affect both parties. It will only impose stricter regulations for goods and restrict may restrict exchanges even with currencies they have, but crypto is out of the equation.

As mentioned, bitcoin is banned already in China. Rumors suggest that they will release their own cryptocurrency. I also don't know if its exclusive to China, but assessing the current situation where China's population isn't using bitcoin, what effect would it bring even if trade war happens? I don't see any possible effects.
Trade war will really affect the cryptocurrency in terms of demand. If the trade war get those two countries screwed up big time then that is the time for people to panic and sold their stocks and other traditional investment vehicle and they will put their money into cryptocurrencies since most of the people know that cryptocurrency is a safe haven for their money.

I'm not so.sure that trade war will influence on people to buy cryptocurrencies and increase demand. Trade war influence on supply of certain goods, it might start some financial crisis too but that doesn't mean that people will automaticly turn to cryptocurrency and abandon traditional investments and fiat currencies. In fact I don't think that is going to happen at all.
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October 07, 2019, 02:22:35 PM

As mentioned, bitcoin is banned already in China. Rumors suggest that they will release their own cryptocurrency. I also don't know if its exclusive to China, but assessing the current situation where China's population isn't using bitcoin, what effect would it bring even if trade war happens? I don't see any possible effects.

It's not for the first time I read this, but is it true that Bitcoin is banned in China? From what I can see, Bitcoin is not banned there.

Bitcoin is not banned from china, people are banned on using bitcoin in China, they also shut down their local exchanges, check it here:

https://cointelegraph.com/tags/china

and this is might be the reason why bitcoin's price resurgence continue, this is a bad news. There is no specific statement yet on what is the reason of how the fire started but I smell something fishy, hmm. . . .

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/bitcoin-mining-farm-china-fire-cryptocurrency-innosilicon-a9128246.html

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October 07, 2019, 03:53:59 AM

As mentioned, bitcoin is banned already in China. Rumors suggest that they will release their own cryptocurrency. I also don't know if its exclusive to China, but assessing the current situation where China's population isn't using bitcoin, what effect would it bring even if trade war happens? I don't see any possible effects.

It's not for the first time I read this, but is it true that Bitcoin is banned in China? From what I can see, Bitcoin is not banned there.

My first source, Wikipedia, is saying that only Banking ban exists, BTC is considered legal in China:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory

And my second source, CoinMarketCap, is saying that the pair BTC/CNY had the volume of almost 190 million USD during the last 24 hours on the TOPBTC alone:


https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/topbtc/



Regarding the influence of the trade war on the crytpo market, it remains to be seen. I can see no impact so far.
I agree with you if bitcoin is banned in China, then why does china have an exchange? I mean like bibox, I think a Chinese made that exchange, actually it is one of the top 10 exchanges based on coinmarketcap. I don't hear news so far that China regulates cryptocurrency and they are prohibits it. China does not announce that they prohibits cryptocurrency especially earning bitcoin.
legendary
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October 07, 2019, 03:42:46 AM
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Bitcoin is already down after huge sell off so i think it will not hurt bitcoin price much.However Bitcoin is performing much better when stocks are green
One is for sure for me.If tariffs wars will cause major currencies crisis then both gold and bitcoin will shine


I would not call it "shining", if the purchasing power of USD drops 3 times, while Bitcoin rises 2 times compared to USD. We don't need any crisis for Bitcoin to rise in price. You said it yourself that "Bitcoin is performing much better when stocks are green".

People hoping for Bitcoin price growth frequently forget that we can't benefit from increasing numbers. What we really need is increase in purchasing power.
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legendary
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October 06, 2019, 10:41:49 AM
I think we need to look on trade war in more complex way.First of all last economic data are showing economic slowdown .It is mostly caused by trade war.Now USA imposed new tariffs on EU goods.But look US stocks there was just one strong dump and then stocks came back.Reason is hope for rates cuts and monetary stimulus
But FED meeting is at the end of October so real reason is coming meeting between China and USA and potencial agreement.If we will see next fiasco then any rates cuts will not save economies and stocks will sharply move down
Bitcoin is already down after huge sell off so i think it will not hurt bitcoin price much.However Bitcoin is performing much better when stocks are green
One is for sure for me.If tariffs wars will cause major currencies crisis then both gold and bitcoin will shine
legendary
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October 06, 2019, 09:26:20 AM

As mentioned, bitcoin is banned already in China. Rumors suggest that they will release their own cryptocurrency. I also don't know if its exclusive to China, but assessing the current situation where China's population isn't using bitcoin, what effect would it bring even if trade war happens? I don't see any possible effects.

It's not for the first time I read this, but is it true that Bitcoin is banned in China? From what I can see, Bitcoin is not banned there.

My first source, Wikipedia, is saying that only Banking ban exists, BTC is considered legal in China:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory

And my second source, CoinMarketCap, is saying that the pair BTC/CNY had the volume of almost 190 million USD during the last 24 hours on the TOPBTC alone:


https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/topbtc/



Regarding the influence of the trade war on the crytpo market, it remains to be seen. I can see no impact so far.
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October 06, 2019, 03:39:33 AM
Trade war is irrelevant to crypto and won't affect both parties. It will only impose stricter regulations for goods and restrict may restrict exchanges even with currencies they have, but crypto is out of the equation.

As mentioned, bitcoin is banned already in China. Rumors suggest that they will release their own cryptocurrency. I also don't know if its exclusive to China, but assessing the current situation where China's population isn't using bitcoin, what effect would it bring even if trade war happens? I don't see any possible effects.
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