Viceroy helped a lot of people see that TF was a shady character months before he made off with a bunch of BTC...
Topic: TradeFortress stole 30 of my BTC (Read 2124 times)
@giletto
Many maybes...
Ok, let me answer this: You know something, it called common sense? As some other user wrote above, me too:Many maybes...
would you put your Fiat Money in the wallet or bank account (or even under the matress) of a stranger which you met in internet and which you never met in real? I guess not, right? So why do it with BTC?
Why? This question i still want to got answered. Your common sense will protect you not to do it with your FIAT money. Why you forget the same security and own protection with BTC? I still don't get this point...
@giletto
Maybe someone new to bitcoin does not immediately understand the technical differences between the inputs.io and blockchain.info wallets.
Maybe someone new to bitcoin does not know that half the articles on Coindesk.com are complete BS.
http://www.coindesk.com/inputs-io-a-high-security-bitcoin-web-wallet/
Maybe someone new to Bitcoin does not know to trace the website to a profile on bitcointalk.org and search through said users history to find out that he is untrustworthy.
Maybe someone new to Bitcoin assumes that a website that is a Bitcoin Foundation Silver Member is not a scam
Maybe you shouldn't be so insulting and judgmental. The users of inputs.io are the victims. Coindesk (and others - plenty of others) share blame for misinforming their readers (probably for personal profit). and TradeFortress is guilty of theft and fraud.
-thehatman
PS and maybe, if a newbie asked for advice on security on these forums, it would help if s/he got solid advice and not a 30 page discussion about disconnecting computers from the net and rolling dice 100 times, compiling code, generating keys by hand, rolling more dice and locking hand written passphrases in a secret vault (climate proof, and on non acidic paper of course)
Maybe someone new to bitcoin does not immediately understand the technical differences between the inputs.io and blockchain.info wallets.
Maybe someone new to bitcoin does not know that half the articles on Coindesk.com are complete BS.
http://www.coindesk.com/inputs-io-a-high-security-bitcoin-web-wallet/
Maybe someone new to Bitcoin does not know to trace the website to a profile on bitcointalk.org and search through said users history to find out that he is untrustworthy.
Maybe someone new to Bitcoin assumes that a website that is a Bitcoin Foundation Silver Member is not a scam
Maybe you shouldn't be so insulting and judgmental. The users of inputs.io are the victims. Coindesk (and others - plenty of others) share blame for misinforming their readers (probably for personal profit). and TradeFortress is guilty of theft and fraud.
-thehatman
PS and maybe, if a newbie asked for advice on security on these forums, it would help if s/he got solid advice and not a 30 page discussion about disconnecting computers from the net and rolling dice 100 times, compiling code, generating keys by hand, rolling more dice and locking hand written passphrases in a secret vault (climate proof, and on non acidic paper of course)
Rather than attack me, follow. the link you copied.
Maybe you don't get the point of my first message, i highlighted a bit now for u:Quote
For a scam need always 2 ppl, 1 clever scammer and the idiot, who let the scam happen. WHAT exactly is the reason, to put 40 BTC in a wallet of another ppl/website/company?
Got it?
Btw, i don't attack you, i am just wondering about the idiocy in this world...would you put your Fiat Money in the wallet of a stranger which you met in internet and which you never met? I guess not, right? So why do it with BTC?
Rather than attack me, follow. the link you copied.
Do you blame the victim when they are hit by a drunk driver, too?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-tradefortress-breaking-the-law-256008
A hit by a drunken driver is an accident mate, which you can't avoid. This here is pure idiocy, which you CAN avoid. can you imagine the difference? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-tradefortress-breaking-the-law-256008
if there is something like karma, I hope it gets him
Do you blame the victim when they are hit by a drunk driver, too?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-tradefortress-breaking-the-law-256008
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-tradefortress-breaking-the-law-256008
Why would you think it's safer to store your bitcoins in someone else's wallet?
Would you hide your cash in someone else's mattress?
If so, I have a savings account that you can store your savings in...
Would you hide your cash in someone else's mattress?
If so, I have a savings account that you can store your savings in...
+10000
Nothing to say more.
For a scam need always 2 ppl, 1 clever scammer and the idiot, who let the scam happen. WHAT exactly is the reason, to put 40 BTC in a wallet of another ppl/website/company?
Sorry, i missed the point.
That's how we know it's an inside job. TF explicitly stated that most of the coins were indeed in cold storage. Of course he said that before they all disappeared in November.
Then he waited a week to report the "theft".
Then he waited a week to report the "theft".
You'd think that many coins would be mostly stored in a cold wallet.
yep, exact same thief.
personal friends with this sites admin.
personal friends with this sites admin.
Is this the same Tradefortress who plastered ads all over bitcointalk claiming Ripple is a scam and operates the web site http://ripplescam.org/ ?
I tried to want the community this guy was a theif but the site admin is butt buddies with TF.
Why would you think it's safer to store your bitcoins in someone else's wallet?
Would you hide your cash in someone else's mattress?
If so, I have a savings account that you can store your savings in...
Would you hide your cash in someone else's mattress?
If so, I have a savings account that you can store your savings in...
I have written many emails to have him and have yet to have any returned. I would accept a portion of my BTC back if that was all he could provide. I sincerely hope that TradeFortress was not behind this. Please respond to my emails TradeFortress.
He scammed everyone, tbh. I sincerely doubt that this site was "hacked."
If you look back, he was saying "Oh, we can cover all of the deposits that were hacked. Don't worry." That was obviously an outright lie.
If you look back, he was saying "Oh, we can cover all of the deposits that were hacked. Don't worry." That was obviously an outright lie.
How could anyone use inputs.io and sleep well at night remains beyond my imagination.
I did write them an email
I wrote many many emails.
Yet of my 40 btc they only refunded me 10.
The website was hacked two weeks ago. As soon as they noticed that it was hacked they should have shut down.
Keeping the website up and running in the hope of attracting new deposits is fraud. Not refund all deposits made after the hack, but using those deposits to pay users who had their funds stolen by the hacker is theft.
That is why I say TradeFortress stole my 30BTC not some hacker.
-thehatman
-cobordism
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1q3rpp/tradefortress_stole_30_of_my_btc/
I wrote many many emails.
Yet of my 40 btc they only refunded me 10.
The website was hacked two weeks ago. As soon as they noticed that it was hacked they should have shut down.
Keeping the website up and running in the hope of attracting new deposits is fraud. Not refund all deposits made after the hack, but using those deposits to pay users who had their funds stolen by the hacker is theft.
That is why I say TradeFortress stole my 30BTC not some hacker.
-thehatman
-cobordism
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1q3rpp/tradefortress_stole_30_of_my_btc/
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