Topic: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED - page 2. (Read 2192 times)

Trading is also a real job that can be learned by everyone in order to get the opportunity to profit after trying it several times through certain exchanges. Because now opening a business and selling manually is very common for everyone to do, so those who don't have the space to do it manually can try it through crypto exchanges and other exchanges in order to still have work activities and make money when they have a profit. And from the example you gave, it can actually also be good advice for those who keep complaining on the grounds that they don't have a job, even though they are the only ones who don't have the will to work.

We are not here to prevent or interfere with anyone's choices or lives because we have no right to do that. People just want to say that if we make trading our main job and depend on it as our main source of income then it is too risky, and advise people not to do this. As you know, making a profit in trading is already difficult and it will be even more difficult when you set a goal of needing to make a profit regularly every month to meet your daily needs. So, giving advice to others, especially newbies to help them avoid making mistakes is not a bad thing, and I also don't think advising others would be considered meddling with their work.

Personally, I would never consider trading as a main job because income from it is not guaranteed, it should only be a side job when we have free time.
As Dewi Aries also mentioned below, even experienced traders give similar advice, if we want to become a trader, we must first have another source of income.

I agree with you, if they can fulfill their needs from the trading they do of course this is not a problem for them and what is a problem is if someone trades and they don't have any income and also they often experience failure in trading of course This will make them financially difficult.
It is true that there is nothing wrong when they do trading as a full-time or part-time job, but if they only hope to profit from trading and have no other income, of course this is a very bad choice and I agree with you about not interfering in other people's business regarding work. Everyone has the right to determine their own fate.

A person who works is not unemployed but a person who does other work without work is unemployed if we have such thoughts then I would say this thought is completely wrong.

Every year many students complete their graduation and after completing their graduation not all of them get jobs. Some people focus on their own business and some people start production and there is a class of people who join the job. Here, just as a businessman is not unemployed, a productive person is definitely not unemployed, and one who is employed is also not unemployed. If money can be earned by trading in the right way then we definitely cannot consider this income sector as unemployed. We should take up as our career the work that we like and the work that we can do very well.

Of course, even though they are traders who are quite professional in the sense that they already have quite a lot of flying hours, they still will not be completely free from the possibility of losses, as you said, simply put, the market will not always be on our side all the time. , meaning it is too risky to be used as the only place to support all your living expenses without exception. There are quite a lot of people who have said the following by emphasizing that trading is a risky activity, and many of them also say that trading is an activity that cannot be completely predicted accurately, and that is why we should not depend on all our life's needs. income from trading.

On the other hand, recently I also watched an educational show filled with traders who are quite experienced and can be said to be successful in trading and at the end of their sentences they always say that when you become a trader you have to have another job or Open a business or business that has guarantees and certainty to produce results which will be able to keep you alive even if, for example, in trading you experience losses.

If a trader is able to cover his expenses through trading, I won't be stopping them from doing so. That only means that they know what they're doing and they're effective traders.

There's nothing wrong with what they do as long as it is sustainable whether they treat it full time or part time job.

What matters to us is we shouldn't be meddling with the work of other people that are just trying to put food to their tables.

Using trading as your main place to get money from to cover all your needs isn't going to work. The market doesn't favour you always as a trader, there's going to be times when you won't be able to win. The market isn't stable and won't give you one result always therefore you shouldn't be depending on trading. If you trade and make a money, it can be used for other businesses that you can depend on. All professional traders have other side businesses

But I think traders are employed as they're earning money from when they trade, there earning are not constant as other individuals that might be working for a privacy business or the government but they can be earning more than those other individual that you would say they're employed. A trader can make money from few trade that he can use for the rest of the month.

Because trading is already their full time job and the other hustles that they do are more than enough to cover their lifestyle.

Trading full time is a job and if others don't find it as a real job, that's their judgement and you can't change that.
Even the new types of careers nowadays like in social media, people would say still to get a job even if that's their career.

There's no such thing about being a perfect trader on which losing money is something that would really be that part as always, the key on here is on how you would really be able to make yourself that survive
and act according into the things that you do have in mind. Market is volatile then you would really be needing yourself to be versatile as much as you could so that you would really be able to sustain.
If you wont really be something like this then you cant really be able to sustain and would really be just that easily give up and this is something that you would really be normally be felt on the moment that you would really be losing money in trading.  Its never been easy but it wouldnt be impossible and also in talking about being unemployed then it would really be just that d epending on how someone would really be treating up trading and its not something that you can surely make it as your main source of income but if you could then its good.

Even those who are experienced can sometimes still make mistakes in predicting or analyzing the market. However, to be successful in this job is very difficult, of course we sacrifice many things, namely money and time. Yes, what you say is correct, of course it is very difficult for someone who does not have a main income to get involved, as we know trading requires capital to make transactions on the market, I agree with you that trading cannot be said to be a main job but only a side job. for those who are not used to trading on the market.

In fact, whatever the form of work, if the activity has the potential to make money then yes it can be called a job, or that means it is included in the class of work because it does produce money, but there are some activities that produce money that should not be used as the main income to support all life's needs. and an example is trading, because after all trading is always an activity that has risks, sometimes the level of risk can be very significant if a trader makes a mistake consciously or unconsciously.

So it's not a problem to get involved in the world of trading, but don't make it the main place to cover all your needs because the necessities of life will not be tolerated, in the sense that when you need money you have to have money at that moment, while trading is an activity. It's risky, which means that not every session you make a profit, that's why most people always choose a job that is certain with an agreement to get a monthly or weekly salary.

And this is something that they should realize and not really that making themselves that easily believe too much that trading is really just that an easy thing. It would really be taking lots of years before you would really be making yourself that sustainable or simply having that a good grasps into this market on which we know that this isnt really that simple. Somehow there are individuals who are really that good when it comes to this aspect on which they do really be able to make those good trades in just a matter of few months or even just 1 year. It would really be just that depending on a certain individual since not all would really be that fast learners. Also, when it comes on making it as a replacement for a job then better think twice and just like on what you have said that instead of earning then you would really be rather than making yourself
losing money because it is really that needing for you to make those buy and sell on which on the price of the market we do have on which its volatile then it would be understandable that instead of making money
you would really be rather be losing instead. So it would be a matter of risks taking on this manner.

I respect your opinion but I don't understand why you mean only manual labor by work. See workers earn money through their physical labor it is work just like a businessman earns money by performing business activities and sometimes incurs loss this is also work and those who do official work at institutional level also include work. But in any case everyone in the world earns their livelihood through work from their respective positions so no one is unemployed.

Yup. Gamblers also not unemployed. Buskers also, street artists, etc. I'm not looking down on anyone at all trust me as I was a 'trader' myself for a long time.

But all these jobs can be done in the side of an actual career. Pay the bills, earn enough to pay the bills and pay daddy and mummy bills too, then you can feel good about yourself. Then trade and nobody cares anymore.

It depends on what one chooses to be ,Some are full-time traders only they don't do any other jobs apart from that while others engage in other side hustles. Besides been a fulltime trader with no real job doesn't mean one is unemployed Trading on its own is a real job a really hard one.

In my long years of trading and being a tutor, I am sure to say that trading is risky and many will never be able to make money from it but to waste the little they have into it. For this, it will be so disastrous to take it as your only source of income, but instead taking it as a means to earn passive income is a very good plan. What we should consider as a means of living is what can give us a near-guaranteed income at a regular period of time and not something that is risky like trading. If at all you are so good at trading (which is an exception to this), it can still be risky to rely on it. There should be a plan B from the already earned income in case things start falling apart in trading.

I said this because there is no perfect trader and no matter how good and managerial you are in it, the test of time may fall in that will scatter all that you had gathered. This is also irrespective of how long you've been trading or the learning you have gathered, it is only about the nature of trading itself. Trading will trick you into losing even as you will fall victim due to the susceptibility of human nature to emotions and irrational decisions. The best is to have another source(s) of income and I am sure that this will lessen the issues that could arise from trading and also the pressing financial needs.

You're right, dude; you can't really do trading activity if you don't have capital. And it's also true that traders can never be employees because we don't have employers here in the crypto space. You only become an employee because you have an employer, right?

So we are clear that we are not really employed as traders, but we need to work on being traders in the crypto space. How do we do that? We must always have an understanding of trading, and to do that, we must learn trading.

If we want to make money from trading, of course we must first have expertise in trading and must also have experience in the field of trading because without having skills and experience, of course there is very little chance of making a profit and I view trading as just a side job and if so If you want to make trading a source of income, of course we have to really follow market movements and news about the assets we are trading, but I think this is very difficult and it would be better if we made it an additional source of income and must still have a main source of income for can meet our needs.

Yes, I thought that too. Trading is just a way to make money, but not something that can be categorized as a job. However, we can see it as a job, when the person has actually made money from it. However, some people actually get losses, and I think, it's not a job if it results in losses. However, I think quite a lot of people are proud when they are used to making money from trading and think that it is their job.

Money management is a very important thing in trading, I have never seen someone who was successful in trading but couldn't manage their finances well, so this is a complement, if you can manage your money well then your path in trading will be smooth

taking risks carelessly and taking risks with a mature plan are different things, many people fail because they take risks without a mature plan, the same goes for trading, you will only lose if you take risks without a mature plan