Traders Don't easily lend out money.

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on October 17, 2021, 03:33:56 AM

Quote from: Rruchi man on May 12, 2021, 02:32:57 PM

If you happen to be an active trader or know people that trade actively, you will notice that traders do not easily give out money ( i.e lend out money) not because they don't have to give but because their capital is actively and most times always involved a trade.

You have to understand as a friend to traders that even in times when big wins are celebrated, it is not still a time to ask them to help you with money for your needs with the thought that they are in profit, because if you do you will get yourself disappointed nine times in ten chances.

Work for your own money, nobody owes you anything.

not all are and there are times when traders keep their money without buying a single coin. usually they set aside their profits unless the trader is risking all their money.
such matters return to certain people and to whom they lend the money. it all regardless of their work as trader.

lending money in any form even though it's our friend, I think something is not good. because in hindsight it will be a problem with our friends until the breakup of the friendship that has been established. but if we make a profit from trading and want to help friends, of course we must follow the procedure, namely there is a guarantee for the debt

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Op, you are some how correct because one of my friend who know fully well that I have money but all in Bitcoin. This person has been begging me for a loan in our faith currency of which I don't want to convert any of my holding in crypto currency because I usually feel am losing money any time I sell.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on May 12, 2021, 02:32:57 PM

If you happen to be an active trader or know people that trade actively, you will notice that traders do not easily give out money ( i.e lend out money) not because they don't have to give but because their capital is actively and most times always involved a trade.

You have to understand as a friend to traders that even in times when big wins are celebrated, it is not still a time to ask them to help you with money for your needs with the thought that they are in profit, because if you do you will get yourself disappointed nine times in ten chances.

Work for your own money, nobody owes you anything.

not all are and there are times when traders keep their money without buying a single coin. usually they set aside their profits unless the trader is risking all their money.
such matters return to certain people and to whom they lend the money. it all regardless of their work as trader.

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A trader is always conscious of any active project which he is not taking part in and his capital at time is not always enough when he is still fighting to survive the losing zone as trading is not always a win win zone at all time. Traders finds it difficult to lend money because they spend lots of time losing money in the trade market, which is a hard way to make money, with few wins, lending is not going to be easy. Though, it could depend on whom the person is and to what purpose is the lending for, the reason could be worth it, and the person asking for would also determine if it will be possible, cause within every pair group, there is the possibility of one knowing whom the next person's actions are when it comes to such event.

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Quote from: Anguwa on October 16, 2021, 12:21:59 PM

This is a plane truth about traders in general. Traders always maintain their capital and also always trying to increase the capital, they have the belive that the higher your capital, the more profit you earn, so lending out money will reduce their target and might make them loose alot of profits they expect from the market, that's why they don't lend out money easily.

I understand how traders value the importance of money because they are earning it in a hard way through trading. And trading is really a hard way to generate profits especially if you don't have the skills, otherwise you will only keep on losing huge amount.

However, its always a case to case basis when it comes to money lending. It depends on the reason of the borrower itself. If it needs immediate money for emergency cases, then i know you cannot refuse a borrower knowing there is an emergency matters to attend to.

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This is a plane truth about traders in general. Traders always maintain their capital and also always trying to increase the capital, they have the belive that the higher your capital, the more profit you earn, so lending out money will reduce their target and might make them loose alot of profits they expect from the market, that's why they don't lend out money easily.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on October 16, 2021, 02:25:07 AM

Traders don't easily lend out money because they know the risk involved in trading.Most atimes when they lose money,it affects them so badly that when someone comes to borrow,they find it very difficult to give it out.

And secondly,the risk of not giving them back is another reason they find it very difficult to lend money,nobody will want to give out money that he suffered to get so easily,forgeting that the borrower might not return it quickly. Since making money is not easy,giving out money is not also easy too.

That kind of thinking that instead of giving lend to their friends or relatives they choose to use the money to their investment, in believe that they can multiply or grow the money dealing inside this business, traders most of the time have a clear mindset that the intention in dealing with this business is to succeed and make more money out from their money.

It's difficult to ask for help or to loan with this kind of people, even you are their friend or relatives they are not valuing anything than the chances to earn from the business.

And following your answer, traders are not willing to take the risk of not being paid by the people who ask for help and lend money to them.

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It depends on a trader and on those who are asking them to provide a loan. If it's a close or trusted friend, that trader might have a high chance to lend money. But for a not that close or total stranger, even borrowers will provide collateral, it's still subject to approval and probably, rejected.

If we know the person is a trader, it's good not to disturb them. We don't know if they are in winning or losing status the moment we will ask for a loan. Let's respect them and instead, go to other choices.

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Hm, I am not sure if this reference is really necessary but on an average every person has their priorities. When it comes to money each of us will be little worried or overprotective about it. The main reason is, we know that we have it because we earned it and we also have various expenses rather than just “trading” or “investing” the money.

Yes, traders do need money all the time but everyone can actually have a break and spend some money on other stuff too. Also, that’s the whole point of earning the money whether it’s trading or by some other means.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on May 12, 2021, 02:32:57 PM

If you happen to be an active trader or know people that trade actively, you will notice that traders do not easily give out money ( i.e lend out money) not because they don't have to give but because their capital is actively and most times always involved a trade.

It is good to have that mindset that nobody owes you anything, and indeed nobody owes you at all in any way. People work very hard to make their money and you can’t expect them to be giving you money at all times, even when they are not in the position to give you that kind of money, everyone should focus on working hard and making their money instead of having to be begging for money at all times.

But, then we as traders should also understand that we have to help others as well whenever we can, because success in this world is measured by people you’re able to bless. So being stingy is not good, but you also have to be careful and not give too much to the extent that you will be destabilized.

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Traders don't easily lend out money because they know the risk involved in trading.Most atimes when they lose money,it affects them so badly that when someone comes to borrow,they find it very difficult to give it out.

And secondly,the risk of not giving them back is another reason they find it very difficult to lend money,nobody will want to give out money that he suffered to get so easily,forgeting that the borrower might not return it quickly. Since making money is not easy,giving out money is not also easy too.

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Quote from: sulendra12 on October 14, 2021, 05:18:22 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on May 12, 2021, 02:32:57 PM

If you happen to be an active trader or know people that trade actively, you will notice that traders do not easily give out money ( i.e lend out money) not because they don't have to give but because their capital is actively and most times always involved a trade.

Sounds like what beggars usually do. When people being a beggar I would bet they will just throw away their money to the void without knowing how to work with it.
Just don't be a beggar, I would rather to learn in hard way to learn something rather than asking someone who owns big money to lend you some. That's not my type of thing

Quote from: Rruchi man on May 12, 2021, 02:32:57 PM

You have to understand as a friend to traders that even in times when big wins are celebrated, it is not still a time to ask them to help you with money for your needs with the thought that they are in profit, because if you do you will get yourself disappointed nine times in ten chances.

That just sounds so rude and makes your friends disappointed.

On many occasions when a loan is requested, most of the time it is for emergencies, especially when it comes to saving someone's life, in that case I think it is a trader or not, they are things that should be put aside and help, it is a life, it's something different, I have friends who are like that, at university I helped him pass the most difficult subject, and at a time when I was vulnerable, I had a need, I knew I could lend it and he told me I didn't have it, So I said to myself, if I hadn't helped him at the time, maybe this was the date and he wouldn't have graduated, what was that "friend" doing right now? Sometimes the human is what we must highlight the most, not all are bad pay, not all are on the same level, some just need a push or friendly help, money comes and goes, money is paid ...

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Quote from: chanler on October 12, 2021, 04:44:44 PM

a trader doesn't even know whether to make a profit or fail so lending money especially trading capital to other people is wrong. assets for trading should be specific to trading only and not disturbed for other purposes. as it is said that the capital for trading is always rotating and active so if it experiences a stop then it will result in failure.

There are many risks to taking a loan to trade in the crypto market the market is not stable. When prices fall all capital is lost and it is difficult to repay the loan capital is needed to start and run a business, and many small and medium-size businesses have to rely on it for capital it is better to go ahead with your own little.

It's may also the same as a sword that has a double edge. There's a potential risk that may occur when we will lose. Trading is the same as gambling, gambling is just because it hoping that it will double your money after a session but in fact that involves risk. Just spend the amount that you can afford and don't bother your 1 month budget. If ever you will lose, it is not going to hurt your pocket.

Even that is a little amount of your capital as long as you can afford to it, that is found, just roll again when your profit once there gain.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on May 12, 2021, 02:32:57 PM

If you happen to be an active trader or know people that trade actively, you will notice that traders do not easily give out money ( i.e lend out money) not because they don't have to give but because their capital is actively and most times always involved a trade.

Sounds like what beggars usually do. When people being a beggar I would bet they will just throw away their money to the void without knowing how to work with it.
Just don't be a beggar, I would rather to learn in hard way to learn something rather than asking someone who owns big money to lend you some. That's not my type of thing

Quote from: Rruchi man on May 12, 2021, 02:32:57 PM

You have to understand as a friend to traders that even in times when big wins are celebrated, it is not still a time to ask them to help you with money for your needs with the thought that they are in profit, because if you do you will get yourself disappointed nine times in ten chances.

That just sounds so rude and makes your friends disappointed.

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Quote from: Patigi on October 14, 2021, 03:24:21 PM

It truth that trader doesn't easily lend out money. For an active and good trader it will find it difficult to give it money out because they all believed that the more you have your capital the more you can make your profit. For example for a trader that invest 100usd and the one that have 100usd and lend 30usd out and invest 70usd when Bitcoin 30usd. which one will make more profit? it will surely be the one that invest 100usd.this is main point why trader doesn't found it easy to lend out it money

I may agree on you because you also have some point but its not all the time that a trader will definitely make use all of his money to trade. I know even if he's an active trader, he should have always an extra money on his pocket for any immediate purposes. And when it comes to lending out money, for me it will always depend on what purpose will the money intended to use? If its for an emergency reasons, i won't be hesitant to lend out some money because i know how it feels to be helpless. But if its just for such unreasonable excuses, well its a big no for me. Money is always worth every cent so it should be used only for valuable reasons.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on October 14, 2021, 09:51:36 AM

This should be tagged your perception and yeah, I respect it, but on the contrary, I do think this depends on some factors
* How successful the trader is.
* How well the market is doing
* Who is involved and also
* The trader's willingness to giving.

This is something involved with own perception and decisions towards your finances because it might not be all willing to give out those lending of money in other people neither on friends because of some common aspect.
Neither he doesnt have that money much or would tend to re-roll their profits for expanding out their capital.This is situational on which neither you do really have some extra money to spent on
lending out money to others or would just stick out on making your capital even way more bigger.Its your choice.

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It truth that trader doesn't easily lend out money. For an active and good trader it will find it difficult to give it money out because they all believed that the more you have your capital the more you can make your profit. For example for a trader that invest 100usd and the one that have 100usd and lend 30usd out and invest 70usd when Bitcoin 30usd. which one will make more profit? it will surely be the one that invest 100usd.this is main point why trader doesn't found it easy to lend out it money

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This should be tagged your perception and yeah, I respect it, but on the contrary, I do think this depends on some factors
* How successful the trader is.
* How well the market is doing
* Who is involved and also
* The trader's willingness to giving.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on October 13, 2021, 06:29:58 PM

Its a personal kind of view because not all would really be having that behavior and would just focus out on their funds and wont tend to help out another people who are in need.

This; yeah as simple as like this. Just a personal view; it means not all the traders necessarily to have some opinion. It will definitely vary traders to traders. In my opinion, when traders are easily going for availing loans, why not we could expect them to understand other people's timely need. This way lending in and lending out may not have differences for a trader.

Quote from: Rruchi man on May 12, 2021, 02:32:57 PM

because their capital is actively and most times always involved a trade.

If you are a successful trader then you will have excess funds which incurred as your profits and moreover, re-investing your profits for next trade is highly discouraged as it will apply extra risks to your trading plans. This way, you must have excess fund if you are a successful trader.

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Quote from: Alisha FR on October 13, 2021, 05:13:36 PM

This depends on the personality of each trader, not always the profit generated is used as capital for further trading. If a trader already has a lot of advantages in every trade, and is willing to help his friend who is in trouble and feels sorry for his friend's financial problems, this is not a problem for me. We as traders who are already earning must have a social sense to help each other, in life we cannot predict that in the future we will also need the friends we are currently helping.

But not all would really be having that kind of mindset and do end up on being too selfish and would mind off for themselves because they don't really believe on something like future help into those people who had been helped out by them.

Its a personal kind of view because not all would really be having that behavior and would just focus out on their funds and wont tend to help out another people who are in need.

When it comes to diversification on other businesses or possible financial help then its out of their own considerations.

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