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March 25, 2021, 01:07:11 AM
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can I bet with you, that a lot of capital without knowledge is tantamount to lose!
why doesn't everyone trade? because it is not easy, and many billionaires lose because of wrong steps in choosing an investment. experience - capital - and confidence is a great composition.
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March 24, 2021, 06:30:53 PM

I do leverage trading x10 with 50$ which become 550$ in total. I try to be around 10$ a day in profit. I don't have much money but with this amount I'm comfortable to play. Somedays I win somedays I lose but at the end all is learning to be better in the future.
Losing and winning is common, and if we are not comfortable with the outcomes of our trades, then we have to decide about leaving or continuing. Trading is not the place for emotional people, nor it is for the weak hands, and also we don't force ourselves if we are not fully interested in it because this will only give us huge losses.
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March 24, 2021, 05:54:48 PM
Capital, in my opinion, is the basic thing that we can use for trading. And we must also ensure that we can afford to lose the capital. Never use the money that is not free or loan as the capital for trading.
We know that trading has high risks of losing but also has a great chance of getting profits. However, never only pay attention to the profits. ABout capital itself, it is better to differentiate the capitals into several coins. Of course, it will depend on what we are going to do, for trading, short investment, or long term investment.
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March 24, 2021, 03:56:04 PM
Making a benefit will likewise rely upon each dealer, and in the event that they can see the benefit, they need to take benefit before the risk is no more. So it is critical to chip away at expanding your exchanging abilities prior to exchanging with more capital. I have seen numerous brokers who need more exchanging abilities to do well in any event, with regards to exchanging with their large capital. So I think exchanging abilities are a higher priority than capital.
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March 24, 2021, 12:50:23 PM
You can trade crypto futures and even use leverage so it is very possible nowadays. I think trading capital ultimately depends on the trader and how much they are willing to lose per trade.

With futures trading you can trade with more capital which you have but the future trading is also risky and it can make your portfolio to zero if the trade gone wrong.
Better to do spot trading with low capital and slowly grow your trading portfolio.
I do leverage trading x10 with 50$ which become 550$ in total. I try to be around 10$ a day in profit. I don't have much money but with this amount I'm comfortable to play. Somedays I win somedays I lose but at the end all is learning to be better in the future.
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March 23, 2021, 12:39:15 PM
The minimum capital that is required to trade effectively and compound profit is 50$; anything below that means that you are literally wasting your own calls, signals; because without a good capital; the only way to make money is if you are making over 100% profit which is not sustainable. Your profit is someone else trade capital; so i implore us to twice your trading capital.

And once again, if you are to scared to loose money; then don't trade, it is not for you

how you define that $50 as the minimum capital that is required for trading? also, how's your trading proportion with that money?
do you use that $50 for trading in 1 coin/token only?
let's use binance as the benchmark for the exchange that we will use.
$50 means we can trade 5x 10usd.
1x initial trade + 4x accumulation during the dip.

but, if you use contract trading, even $10 is enough to double your money instantly.
(ofc it can be zero instantly too  Grin)
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March 22, 2021, 02:03:26 PM
For a trader 50$ start-up capital is a very small amount. It will take a lot of time for him to make a good profit from this money, so it’s better to invest more. When I just started trading my start-up capital was 2000$ and it took me for more than half a year of day by day trading to managed to double them. That is how unskillful newbie traders usually trade. In fact, more unlucky newbie traders lose everything.
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March 22, 2021, 12:03:37 PM
if we take into account the period of the end of 2020 and the beginning of 2021, then thanks to $ 50, it was possible to earn very good money through investments for a long period. Trading even with day trading, with a starting capital of $ 50, is very difficult to earn something. But some projects showed more than 1000 percent growth in several months and, accordingly, you can calculate what kind of profit you get.
It would still be quite difficult to turn 50 dollars into 5000 dollars, was it technically possible? Sure, if you got in at every bottom and got out at every peak and kept doing that daily few times every single day for few months you would make a lot of money. However, the reality is that we do not believe that we can pick the bottom and the peak every single day for months right?

I mean I do not believe that could happen. This is why I think it is obvious that we will probably not make that kind of money, 50 bucks can be turned into 500 dollars if we are lucky, and that is in many months, that is the only thing we should be hoping for, and in the next bull run (years later, whenever we get another 10x bull run like this year) we could turn that into 5000 dollars, it won't be on this bull run because finding 10x is already near impossible, finding it twice is just impossible.
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March 22, 2021, 08:58:26 AM
I thought you only invest at a certain amount you can afford to lose. I have traded before with just a small amount of fiat money, it was less than $50 at that time and I did gain more than what I had expected 4 years ago. Up until now, I still do not that much because I wouldn’t want to risk my cash money in case I need them for emergencies.
if we take into account the period of the end of 2020 and the beginning of 2021, then thanks to $ 50, it was possible to earn very good money through investments for a long period. Trading even with day trading, with a starting capital of $ 50, is very difficult to earn something. But some projects showed more than 1000 percent growth in several months and, accordingly, you can calculate what kind of profit you get.
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March 22, 2021, 08:02:40 AM
I thought you only invest at a certain amount you can afford to lose. I have traded before with just a small amount of fiat money, it was less than $50 at that time and I did gain more than what I had expected 4 years ago. Up until now, I still do not that much because I wouldn’t want to risk my cash money in case I need them for emergencies.
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March 22, 2021, 01:58:31 AM
Good thing that there is now what we call futures or leverage trading. It is a high risk high reward type of trading but if you are really good at predicting the price and you have proper risk management, you can earn big from this. I know someone who started with a 100$ capital but everytime he trades, he only puts 1-5$ per position. With this bull market he managed to earn a good amount of money. Trading is not only a game of capital because even if you have tons of it but you are greedy then you will slowly lose it.
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March 22, 2021, 01:04:52 AM
It goes in both ways, either you trade with small capital or with big capital it still ball down to the same thing. to accumulate huge profits trading with big capital is at advantage  but in the time of lose small capital will not hot you much. What i do is to trade in percentage I don't put all my capital into one trade I reserve some incase my trade ends in an unexpected direction I can easily have fund to start over again.
Not putting all your money in trading is a good idea, that should be something everyone does and will always be that much valuable. Obviously speaking we are not talking about the investments, I do support putting all your savings 100% into crypto, I am talking about trading and per trade, that is something different.

The point here is that if you only have 50 bucks, what are you going to do, not like you could put that aside and just trade with small portion of it, the whole thing is small itself, which means you have to trade the whole of it, and you will not be happy about it. Hell even the best possible 10x is still just 500 bucks and not a good enough capital but let's assume it is, you just took the whole bull run and still didn't do much. That is why if you do not have a proper capital you should not start trading and hope for much, first you should "earn" decent capital.
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March 21, 2021, 02:21:22 AM
The minimum capital that is required to trade effectively and compound profit is 50$; anything below that means that you are literally wasting your own calls, signals; because without a good capital; the only way to make money is if you are making over 100% profit which is not sustainable. Your profit is someone else trade capital; so i implore us to twice your trading capital.

And once again, if you are to scared to loose money; then don't trade, it is not for you
For a beginner, low amount of capital is okay because they don't have experience and enough knowledge on trading. With small amount, they will be able to learn trading properly. But for a professional person, $50 is not a good amount of money for trading.
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March 21, 2021, 02:18:56 AM
Investing huge capital is not issue, issue is to effectively utilize that capital and earn profit. If you are newbie and don't know much about trading then don't jump straight away with huge capital just invest as much you can afford to lose.
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March 21, 2021, 01:53:00 AM
You can trade crypto futures and even use leverage so it is very possible nowadays. I think trading capital ultimately depends on the trader and how much they are willing to lose per trade.

With futures trading you can trade with more capital which you have but the future trading is also risky and it can make your portfolio to zero if the trade gone wrong.
Better to do spot trading with low capital and slowly grow your trading portfolio.
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March 20, 2021, 11:36:25 PM
You can trade crypto futures and even use leverage so it is very possible nowadays. I think trading capital ultimately depends on the trader and how much they are willing to lose per trade.
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March 20, 2021, 07:28:33 PM
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I think trading capital ultimately depends on the trader and how much they are willing to lose per trade. There are traders who can take a $10 or $20 trading accounts to the highs of $5000 - $10000. Anybody can do it if they know what they're doing. It's very much possible these days since you can trade crypto futures and even use leverages. Your patry $20 capital would be $200 when on a 10x leverage account.

Anyway, I'm not here to talk about leverage trading. The point I'm trying to drive home is that any trading capital should be fine as far as the trader is comfortable with it and knows what they're doing. But one thing is clear those, the more the capital, the more you're likely to profit per trade if it goes well - for instance, gaining 500% on an $10 account doesn't seem to be worth it considering you only get $40 as profit. Compare that with a $500 - $5000 trading account.

I am very much agreed to your explanation Sir, there is really no problem with the capital whether it is small or big.
The really thing important is that the individual traders knows what they are doing inside the trading platform were in the end
they could get a nice profit of course. In fact, in my experienced I started with a small capital amounting 20$ then within a week I can make it turn into 50$ - 100$ or more something like that even up to the present.
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March 20, 2021, 12:39:16 PM
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The minimum capital that is required to trade effectively and compound profit is 50$; anything below that means that you are literally wasting your own calls, signals; because without a good capital; the only way to make money is if you are making over 100% profit which is not sustainable. Your profit is someone else trade capital; so i implore us to twice your trading capital.

And once again, if you are to scared to loose money; then don't trade, it is not for you
Yes you’re right, unless the person just feels like playing around with a small amount and not minding whatever comes out of it. For example when I was into forex trading, most of the forex trading platforms I know wouldn’t let you invest anything less than 250 dollars, your investment has to be from that 250 dollars and upwards, and anything less than that is not allowed. It was after that I started seeing some new sites, especially options trading platforms, that will be allowing their customers to be investing from 10 dollars. You will see people who will invest and lose it all at once.

Trading is always best to start with a good amount of money and make better profit, and this amount should be something you trade and be ready to take the loss in case it should happen.
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March 20, 2021, 11:51:20 AM
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As much as trading capital plays a major role in determining the amount of profits made at the end of the day, it would be wrong to believe it's the only major factor necessary to make profits.
Much more than being a game of capital, I believe trading is a game of strategies that work and consistency. Even if you have the most capital to trade and your strategies always end in a loss, you'd eventually lose it all and back out of trading.
If you have a good strategy or strategies and you're consistent with trading, you can build your account from as low as $10 to as high as anything
Agreed, no matter how low you capital is, even if it's just a tip given from you or just bonus from the trading site itself, you may still be able to earn big as long as you have the strategy and the right research about it.
Your capital can grow big along the way if you compound all the earnings you get from it. What's important in trading is the right researches and strategies. If you can manage your earnings, losses and funds way better than those who have higher capital then you are more likely to earn than those who started big. I'm not saying that the capital isn't important because you can earn way higher if you have high capital but rather you can achieve and achieve higher funds and capital if you have the right materials, researches and put your time and effort unto trading.
But we can't argue that it takes more time to earn $1000 if you have just $10 capital than you start with $1000. We can see a huge difference and ain't that a big problem if we are able to have that patient to grow and double our money.

That is why, if we can able to start with a big amount that will be great and we never lose a lot of time waiting to grow it. And another reason is that we might miss some good prices which will make us regret it. Perhaps, time is so precious, we have to maximize it if we can.
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March 20, 2021, 09:40:36 AM
#96
As much as trading capital plays a major role in determining the amount of profits made at the end of the day, it would be wrong to believe it's the only major factor necessary to make profits.
Much more than being a game of capital, I believe trading is a game of strategies that work and consistency. Even if you have the most capital to trade and your strategies always end in a loss, you'd eventually lose it all and back out of trading.
If you have a good strategy or strategies and you're consistent with trading, you can build your account from as low as $10 to as high as anything
Agreed, no matter how low you capital is, even if it's just a tip given from you or just bonus from the trading site itself, you may still be able to earn big as long as you have the strategy and the right research about it.
Your capital can grow big along the way if you compound all the earnings you get from it. What's important in trading is the right researches and strategies. If you can manage your earnings, losses and funds way better than those who have higher capital then you are more likely to earn than those who started big. I'm not saying that the capital isn't important because you can earn way higher if you have high capital but rather you can achieve and achieve higher funds and capital if you have the right materials, researches and put your time and effort unto trading.
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