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Quote from: Ridwan Fauzi on March 19, 2021, 05:27:31 PM

You can feel having a high capital although you have small amount. I mean, as an example you just have $50 in your initial capital but you still have a chance to feel as you have $500 as your capital.

Yeah, you can use future market and using leverage, have you use it? This feature can help you to earn a lot of money by using small amount but in one note you have understood and have known the technical and fundamental analyst.

But, if you haven't known about these strategies and you use future market using high leverage then you aren't trade but you are in gambling. That is an advantages and disadvantages of future market. Trading is not about you spend money than you can afford to lose but more than that you have to know what you trade on.

Using leverage to trade to earn huge profits can also be counterproductive, a loss mean might likely rekt the capital invested. Trading is not gambling a trader is expected to have a working strategy of course their is no perfect strategy andcsuch a trader is expected to manage a trade to earn profits despite the fact that losses are bound to be incurred.
Trading with $50 capital as a full time trader is too small to sustain such a trader expenses because the trader is bound to withdrawing the profits Everytime.

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Quote from: Cling18 on March 16, 2021, 08:32:16 AM

The bigger the risk, the higher the profit.

This is true, but also do not forget that the bigger the risk, the more important for you to use a very good stop loss % that will make your loss minimal if things go south. Also you cannot be desperate to take profits; because some chart play out in few days, and some weeks. Always do your own research and remember that trading is not gambling.

Don't forget that in every trade you only put at least 1% of your capital, but in $50 capital I think it's not good to apply it but still depends on your trading plans. It still depends on someone's capital that he plans to put in trade. Small capital is a good start for trading rather than putting too much money with no background on how trading works.I know a person who put them all money without knowing the risk management. Feel bad to him then give him advice that don't put too much money and start learning things about cryptocurrency first.

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You can feel having a high capital although you have small amount. I mean, as an example you just have $50 in your initial capital but you still have a chance to feel as you have $500 as your capital.

Yeah, you can use future market and using leverage, have you use it? This feature can help you to earn a lot of money by using small amount but in one note you have understood and have known the technical and fundamental analyst.

But, if you haven't known about these strategies and you use future market using high leverage then you aren't trade but you are in gambling. That is an advantages and disadvantages of future market. Trading is not about you spend money than you can afford to lose but more than that you have to know what you trade on.

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As much as trading capital plays a major role in determining the amount of profits made at the end of the day, it would be wrong to believe it's the only major factor necessary to make profits.
Much more than being a game of capital, I believe trading is a game of strategies that work and consistency. Even if you have the most capital to trade and your strategies always end in a loss, you'd eventually lose it all and back out of trading.
If you have a good strategy or strategies and you're consistent with trading, you can build your account from as low as $10 to as high as anything

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Quote from: Shasha80 on March 19, 2021, 05:04:08 PM

I agree that trading is how we play our capital properly, the smarter we are in utilizing the capital we have. It should be easier to make profit,
the most important thing is how our strategy is to allocate the capital we have in the right coins. If our choice of coins is good, the capital we have
should continue to grow. Of course crypto trading is a risky activity, if we are afraid of losing money, it's best to avoid trading. Because for traders
losing money is a common thing, it must happen if the market suddenly changes not according to what we planned. Because trading is not
always profitable, but if the amount of loss we experience is still below the income we get. Trading is still worth doing.

It requires a lot of knowledge in order to be profitable in trading, if you have that and you are confident on making yourself profitable, then there's no limit as crypto trading is open 24/7 and you can enjoy every opportunity that you can spot.

Personally, I not more into daily trading because I think it requires more time and I can't give that now since I'm busy with my personal life and my business as well.

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I agree that trading is how we play our capital properly, the smarter we are in utilizing the capital we have. It should be easier to make profit,
the most important thing is how our strategy is to allocate the capital we have in the right coins. If our choice of coins is good, the capital we have
should continue to grow. Of course crypto trading is a risky activity, if we are afraid of losing money, it's best to avoid trading. Because for traders
losing money is a common thing, it must happen if the market suddenly changes not according to what we planned. Because trading is not
always profitable, but if the amount of loss we experience is still below the income we get. Trading is still worth doing.

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Quote from: cytpoway121 on March 13, 2021, 03:06:34 AM

The minimum capital that is required to trade effectively and compound profit is 50$; anything below that means that you are literally wasting your own calls, signals; because without a good capital; the only way to make money is if you are making over 100% profit which is not sustainable. Your profit is someone else trade capital; so i implore us to twice your trading capital.

And once again, if you are to scared to loose money; then don't trade, it is not for you

I also don’t feel to succeed if I’m just going to trade with that kind of capital, it might not cover all the fees I have to pay so that capital might not last longer.

Trading requires the right knowledge and it also requires capital. I’ve started my trading journey with a $200 capital, and it works for me perfectly so I suggest that at least $200 should be your starting capital to fully enjoy trading.

trading is a tough job fraught with dangers. Still, if the idea of making quick money attracts you, here are a few tips to help you on your way.How many times have you bought a stock on someone's advice to make a quick buck and waited for months, may be years, to just recover your cost? Share trading, experts warn, is a risky game. However, it's possible to play it smartly and make a quick buck as well, they say.

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Quote from: cytpoway121 on March 13, 2021, 03:06:34 AM

The minimum capital that is required to trade effectively and compound profit is 50$; anything below that means that you are literally wasting your own calls, signals; because without a good capital; the only way to make money is if you are making over 100% profit which is not sustainable. Your profit is someone else trade capital; so i implore us to twice your trading capital.

And once again, if you are to scared to loose money; then don't trade, it is not for you

You're right! For effective trading you need capital and the more the better. I remember my first experience in trading, when I tried to trade for a small amount, all this is a waste of time, the maximum you can get a little experience, but you can never make good money. The main thing in trading is to make a profit, and this profit should be tangible so that you have the motivation to make more profit, but this requires capital.

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"The main attraction of trading is that people feel they can make quick money. But there are no free lunches. Trading requires a lot of discipline." many times have you bought a stock on someone's "The main attraction of trading is that people feel they can make quick money. But there are no free lunches. Trading requires a lot of discipline."advice to make a quick buck and waited for months, may be years, to just recover your cost? Share trading, experts warn, is a risky game.

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Quote from: cytpoway121 on March 13, 2021, 03:06:34 AM

The minimum capital that is required to trade effectively and compound profit is 50$; anything below that means that you are literally wasting your own calls, signals; because without a good capital; the only way to make money is if you are making over 100% profit which is not sustainable. Your profit is someone else trade capital; so i implore us to twice your trading capital.

And once again, if you are to scared to loose money; then don't trade, it is not for you

You're right! For effective trading you need capital and the more the better. I remember my first experience in trading, when I tried to trade for a small amount, all this is a waste of time, the maximum you can get a little experience, but you can never make good money. The main thing in trading is to make a profit, and this profit should be tangible so that you have the motivation to make more profit, but this requires capital.

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Quote from: jostorres on March 19, 2021, 11:54:29 AM

If you know what you are doing and how you plan it, then whether you trade with millions of hundreds of dollars it doesn't matter. I think a lot of traders when they fail in trading they get an easy excuse that their capital wasn't sufficient. I hope they realize that the problem was either with the planning or the execution because no capital is small or big, if you have the right plan and able to execute, you will do good.

Yeah

The crucial part is the execution and management of the trade with higher risk. From a psychological standpoint it's a difference if you're risking 10$ or 10k$. The experienced trader is just capable of handling the 10k$ risk and stick to the plan in any way. If a not experienced trader ups his risk from 100$ to 1000$ at once, his psychology will most likely crush him.

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Quote from: airdata on March 13, 2021, 08:24:17 AM

More fund means more portfolio, more profit, if you have low amount of Capital then you make very small amount form trading and if you have large amount of Capital then you can make good profit form Crypto trading.

But more capital means more loss too. If you can profit with $10 capital and somehow manage to earn $1 per week or month then you can do the same with $1000 also and I don't understand why bigger amounts are needed to test your own capabilities. Whether you play soccer in your garden or you play for your country, the skills remain the same. Similarly, trading skills cannot enhanced just because you are trading with bigger amounts because the plan and knowledge remain the same. Sometimes with big capital, you actually become more tentative and avoid risks, which is crucial in the bitcoin trading market.

Quote from: Lucius on March 13, 2021, 09:04:54 AM

$50 or $10 000, does it mean anything at all if the trader has no idea what he is actually doing? Everyone would want to get rich overnight by sitting in front of a computer and buying something cheap, and then selling the same x100 more expensive - but where would the crypto market end up in that case? Your profit is someone's loss and vice versa - which means that there must always be a lot more losers than winners.

Exactly

If you know what you are doing and how you plan it, then whether you trade with millions of hundreds of dollars it doesn't matter. I think a lot of traders when they fail in trading they get an easy excuse that their capital wasn't sufficient. I hope they realize that the problem was either with the planning or the execution because no capital is small or big, if you have the right plan and able to execute, you will do good.

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I think a trade if our capital is big would be quicker to make large profits medium with small capital would certainly make small profits.. That is, logically, however, any trade would require knowledge and experience flying hours on the journey would not be as easy as turning a palm of the hand not necessarily with big capitals. we would get big outcomes, and if we didn't have them all could be we could be falling into huge losses but perhaps a failure that would make us a successful person without feeling the falling process In the trade maybe that makes us even better in the future

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on March 19, 2021, 02:32:51 AM

That kind of mindset only happens if you just throwing money into random coins, there are many coins out there that could give profit and you can see that by only seeing what kind of projects they are and whether they partnered with some big VC, by that alone you can trade long term and make proper profit.
Although I know that most of traders keep saying to only use the money that we can afford to lose but atleast the money should be properly traded with analyzation.

Money used to buy a coin which is profitable coin like cryptocurrency in not throwing money maybe that friend of yours mate have no idea about cryptocurrency yet. If this is somewhat a kind of definition for this then does taking the risk to put up a business was also some kind of gambling right, it is somewhat buying those services or product which has no perfect assurance if it will going to give you a return of investment.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on March 18, 2021, 05:50:17 PM

A friend of mine once said that any money you use in buying a coin should no longer be considered as money you have. lol, because it is a gamble, and it is best you prepare yourself with that mindset, so that even if you loose some money along the way, you won't consider the loss so much.

That kind of mindset only happens if you just throwing money into random coins, there are many coins out there that could give profit and you can see that by only seeing what kind of projects they are and whether they partnered with some big VC, by that alone you can trade long term and make proper profit.
Although I know that most of traders keep saying to only use the money that we can afford to lose but atleast the money should be properly traded with analyzation.

It definitely not right to say "just to trade the amount of money that you can afford to lose". Because if I'm going to trade, I should be doing something to make it more, not to lose them all. That kind of mindset never works, and that word "can afford to lose" means that we are willing to lose it easily. because if we do something, that loss means nothing, and we surely don't end up like that.

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Quote from: cytpoway121 on March 13, 2021, 03:06:34 AM

The minimum capital that is required to trade effectively and compound profit is 50$; anything below that means that you are literally wasting your own calls, signals; because without a good capital; the only way to make money is if you are making over 100% profit which is not sustainable. Your profit is someone else trade capital; so i implore us to twice your trading capital.

And once again, if you are to scared to loose money; then don't trade, it is not for you

I'd say the main problem with trading with very small amount of money is the fact that even 10-20% would not be significant enough for most traders to get out of a trade and most traders that fall into that category just want that 50-100% or more which is not that easy unless you're buying small cap tokens/coin which have their own risk even if it's in a bull market.

But then again if you just started trading you should not risk much any way and around 50-100$ would be a good capital to start with, but to avoid getting stuck in a trade because you didn't take profit because your gain wasn't enough Fiat wise, start looking at your profit in gained percentage(%) instead of Fiat which will help you to concentrate in the success/fail outcome instead of how much in fiat you gained/lost, the same strategy could be used for those that are not just testing out trading but those who happen to not take profit because they look at the USD value of their profit too much.

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Quote from: cytpoway121 on March 13, 2021, 03:06:34 AM

And once again, if you are to scared to loose money; then don't trade, it is not for you

This is the most important sentence about trading... and it's why often say how trading is not for everyone! Simply losing money affect people in different ways, and some (many) people can't deal with that in the right way, so after losing money people make more mistakes and of course more losses!

Trading is a game of capital, math is simple! Making $100 daily/weekly/monthly is 100% for a trader with $100 capital, it's 10% for a trader with $1000 capital, and it's 1% for a trader with $10k... and it's easy to understand how risky can be to aim for %100 and %1! The point is the more you have you can risk less to earn nice, the less you have you need to risk more and when you risk more chances for making a wrong move are higher!

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It goes in both ways, either you trade with small capital or with big capital it still ball down to the same thing. to accumulate huge profits trading with big capital is at advantage but in the time of lose small capital will not hot you much. What i do is to trade in percentage I don't put all my capital into one trade I reserve some incase my trade ends in an unexpected direction I can easily have fund to start over again.

No advantage in terms of percentage really, once you get past minimum trades. Keep all your trades on exchange and don't wthdraw often to save on fees and you're really just on the same level playing field if you have $1000 or $1million.

I would even argue having a too big capital hurts your strategies. Imagine having $1 billion so 1% of your bankroll is already $10M. Most exchanges wouldn't fulfill any of your orders immediately.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on March 18, 2021, 05:50:17 PM

A friend of mine once said that any money you use in buying a coin should no longer be considered as money you have. lol, because it is a gamble, and it is best you prepare yourself with that mindset, so that even if you loose some money along the way, you won't consider the loss so much.

That kind of mindset only happens if you just throwing money into random coins, there are many coins out there that could give profit and you can see that by only seeing what kind of projects they are and whether they partnered with some big VC, by that alone you can trade long term and make proper profit.
Although I know that most of traders keep saying to only use the money that we can afford to lose but atleast the money should be properly traded with analyzation.

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Quote from: uelque on March 18, 2021, 06:02:44 AM

Actually for me, trading is a game of Mind and Capital.

Let's say you have a bigger capital but you can't play the game wisely; assuming you don't even know how to analyze the market, and that you are just simply putting your money in a down trend hoping that you'll make a profit once the price reverse. Now, how much do you think you'll earn when the price reversal happens? or if it's actually gonna happen? You are not sure, and I'm sure of it! Simply because you are playing through luck and that your decisions aren't backed by trading knowledge. Remember that a wise trader predicts when to buy and when to sell, they do not simply depend on luck and bigger capitals.

Capital only determines how much you can earn through trading, it doesn't guarantee's a good profit alone.

How do you think someone has a big capital without the mind? Plus no matter how smart you think you are, if you have no money, you can't make a profit from it neither. I have seen some people who have turned 100 dollars into 100k or that type of return but those are VERY rare, like super rare, one in a billion people, so there are like less than 10 of them, or at least that's how many shows itself. That is why I think not everyone should aim to be like that, if everyone starts trying to be a trader that turned 100 dollars into 100k they would fail and lose that 100 dollars as well.

It means you need to know how to trade so your brain matters but capital is way more important than anything else. You can have 100k and make only 10% profit and have 10k more money whereas if you have 100 bucks making 10k would be 100x profit and that is quite difficult as it is.

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Quote from: Traderbtcc on March 15, 2021, 06:11:50 PM

Personally I don't think trading is a clash of capital, I mean someone could have a large amount of money in their exchange wallet and yet they can't even get a trade right rather they keep losing on all trades they make, I think it solely depends on how you manage your capital and how well you forecast the market, you can make a $1million from just $50 with the right trading strategy, and you can also lose from $1million to $50 with the wrong trading strategy, again it all depends on how you manage and forecast the market.

Yes and no, some capital is needed to trade the markets we know that, however going from 50 to 1 million most of the time is not going to be a matter of skill but luck and when it comes to investing you cannot rely on that to win in the markets, however it is entirely possible to go from 1 million to 50 relatively quickly if you do not know what you are doing, which is why I have always thought that the most important aspect that should be mastered as fast as possible is to learn how to manage your money on each trade.

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