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Quote from: MWesterweele on December 06, 2016, 10:59:01 AM

Quote from: densuj on August 01, 2016, 06:46:33 AM

There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?

Trading actually is hardest thing you can do in internet because you can't predict what will be the coins price will be. And it will cost you too much when you buy the wrong coin and it will be died in a week my method is i always joined in group chat in facebook to get updated on what coins they going to buy.

It is why I propose a trade system where you can trade without investing satoshi from your poket.
You can only risk from what you get for free.

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Quote from: densuj on August 01, 2016, 06:46:33 AM

There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?

Trading actually is hardest thing you can do in internet because you can't predict what will be the coins price will be. And it will cost you too much when you buy the wrong coin and it will be died in a week my method is i always joined in group chat in facebook to get updated on what coins they going to buy.

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on December 05, 2016, 11:11:00 AM

trading is a very challenging job and also bring in huge profits. trading the same as an ordinary job. we must focus and continue to work with passion to get the desired results. trading is a normal job. we could be happy with being a traders.

Yes its very hard to predict most of the time because fluctuation is there always and so unpredictable. We cannot decide immediately when to buy or sell due to its erratic trend and you need more analysis specially when it goes down frequently and seldom it goes up. A lot of challenges with trading may encounter and if your lack of information inputs a possibility of failures will happen.

That's right. It will require a lot of analyzation, May it be quite comfortable with it. The expert can do it. As this time there are no people will predict bitcoin will always shoot ups(a little maybe).
Every information in the trading job was vulnerability it's not a definite information. We need a lot of research for do this.

Yes only the analysis and researches will get as some chances to predict bitcoin price movements. A lot of people are struggling in this part and they are not finding time to learn the technical analysis. As long as people are failing to learn technical analysis, they will keep on saying trading as an unpredictable job.

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on December 05, 2016, 11:11:00 AM

trading is a very challenging job and also bring in huge profits. trading the same as an ordinary job. we must focus and continue to work with passion to get the desired results. trading is a normal job. we could be happy with being a traders.

Yes its very hard to predict most of the time because fluctuation is there always and so unpredictable. We cannot decide immediately when to buy or sell due to its erratic trend and you need more analysis specially when it goes down frequently and seldom it goes up. A lot of challenges with trading may encounter and if your lack of information inputs a possibility of failures will happen.

That's right. It will require a lot of analyzation, May it be quite comfortable with it. The expert can do it. As this time there are no people will predict bitcoin will always shoot ups(a little maybe).
Every information in the trading job was vulnerability it's not a definite information. We need a lot of research for do this.

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on December 05, 2016, 11:11:00 AM

trading is a very challenging job and also bring in huge profits. trading the same as an ordinary job. we must focus and continue to work with passion to get the desired results. trading is a normal job. we could be happy with being a traders.

Yes its very hard to predict most of the time because fluctuation is there always and so unpredictable. We cannot decide immediately when to buy or sell due to its erratic trend and you need more analysis specially when it goes down frequently and seldom it goes up. A lot of challenges with trading may encounter and if your lack of information inputs a possibility of failures will happen.

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Quote from: serjent05 on December 05, 2016, 12:12:52 PM

Quote from: 8Habits on December 05, 2016, 07:35:50 AM

Quote from: Invulner on December 05, 2016, 03:32:15 AM

Trading in my opinion is by definition taking advantage of something and is based pretty much on human psychology. So it is dead right to say that it is an unpredictable job. For example it might be dead obvious that USD is going to fall but it might just go the other way.

Just like trading altcoins. It's all expectations and speculation.

Yeah, I agree that it is based on human psychology and if a trader can interpret the graph according to human or social psychology, then that trader will have many winning trades than losing ones. Why? Because that trader can capitalize on buying when people are scared and selling when people are greedy and on those processes, that trader will going to profit.

But not all predicted by human brain is bound to happen. There are x factors and y variables that is out of the traders hands. X factors can be seen but the problem is Y is the variable that will greatly affect the trader prediction. And as far as I know that saying does not always bound to be successful especially in altcoin world.

Once upon a time there was a large hedge fund called LTCM (stands for Long-Term Capital Management), which board of directors included even two Nobel Prize laureates. They were thinking along similar lines ("there are x factors and y variables") and even developed some quantitative models to "scientifically" predict the outcome of the problem, but ended up being bailed out by the Fed to prevent the collapse of the financial markets due to their inevitable default. On this account, such approach can be fatal in trading...

Unless you are another LTCM or otherwise too big to fail, of course

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Quote from: Invulner on December 05, 2016, 03:32:15 AM

Trading in my opinion is by definition taking advantage of something and is based pretty much on human psychology. So it is dead right to say that it is an unpredictable job. For example it might be dead obvious that USD is going to fall but it might just go the other way.

Just like trading altcoins. It's all expectations and speculation.

Yeah, I agree that it is based on human psychology and if a trader can interpret the graph according to human or social psychology, then that trader will have many winning trades than losing ones. Why? Because that trader can capitalize on buying when people are scared and selling when people are greedy and on those processes, that trader will going to profit.

But not all predicted by human brain is bound to happen. There are x factors and y variables that is out of the traders hands. X factors can be seen but the problem is Y is the variable that will greatly affect the trader prediction. And as far as I know that saying does not always bound to be successful especially in altcoin world.

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trading is a very challenging job and also bring in huge profits. trading the same as an ordinary job. we must focus and continue to work with passion to get the desired results. trading is a normal job. we could be happy with being a traders.

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Quote from: Invulner on December 05, 2016, 03:32:15 AM

Trading in my opinion is by definition taking advantage of something and is based pretty much on human psychology. So it is dead right to say that it is an unpredictable job. For example it might be dead obvious that USD is going to fall but it might just go the other way.

Just like trading altcoins. It's all expectations and speculation.

Yeah, I agree that it is based on human psychology and if a trader can interpret the graph according to human or social psychology, then that trader will have many winning trades than losing ones. Why? Because that trader can capitalize on buying when people are scared and selling when people are greedy and on those processes, that trader will going to profit.

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Trading in my opinion is by definition taking advantage of something and is based pretty much on human psychology. So it is dead right to say that it is an unpredictable job. For example it might be dead obvious that USD is going to fall but it might just go the other way.

Just like trading altcoins. It's all expectations and speculation.

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Quote from: densuj on August 01, 2016, 06:46:33 AM

There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?

I think all three is necessary, because if you do not like the motor that is not his brakes diingikan then something is definitely happening.

Hello dude, thanks you for your example using motor Cheesy

, on trading we must have rules of trading, discipline do cut lost and following our rules that be made by our self, because there are no people who know what will happen even though one minute later. That is why i said trading was unpredictable job.

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Quote from: densuj on August 01, 2016, 06:46:33 AM

There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?

I think all three is necessary, because if you do not like the motor that is not his brakes diingikan then something is definitely happening.

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Quote from: richardsNY on December 04, 2016, 07:48:00 PM

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Quote from: Amadues on December 03, 2016, 09:48:55 AM

trading is unpredictable job because people in the vast majority of case doesn't know anything about trading.
So become just a waste of time and money, it's more similar to gamble.
Anyway trading with altcoins is really a big risk because 90% of that are just created to inflate the price and then crash for developer advantage.

In fact, if there is lack of knowledge, the chances of losses are quite high. Many users expect to make big profits overnight, this ends up causing them to lose the small opportunities, and selling with the wrong timing, often suffering a loss for it. But once the individual get experience, it's possible to decrease the chances of this happening.

People expecting high returns in a matter of days in extreme cases, are mostly the type of people gambling away their precious Bitcoins in the altcoin market. For these people Bitcoin is too boring as it doesn't move like 25-50% several times a month. But it's quite funny that as soon as the price of Bitcoin shoots up, they start selling their crappy altcoins like there is no tomorrow. At the long run, just like is the case with gambling, these people are only losing.

You can't blame them, they believe that investing in bitcoin can give them lucrative income like the others are experiencing. Actually our goal should be measurable and realistic therefore the most important thing to consider is putting up a decent amount of capital.

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Quote from: Amadues on December 03, 2016, 09:48:55 AM

trading is unpredictable job because people in the vast majority of case doesn't know anything about trading.
So become just a waste of time and money, it's more similar to gamble.
Anyway trading with altcoins is really a big risk because 90% of that are just created to inflate the price and then crash for developer advantage.

In fact, if there is lack of knowledge, the chances of losses are quite high. Many users expect to make big profits overnight, this ends up causing them to lose the small opportunities, and selling with the wrong timing, often suffering a loss for it. But once the individual get experience, it's possible to decrease the chances of this happening.

People expecting high returns in a matter of days in extreme cases, are mostly the type of people gambling away their precious Bitcoins in the altcoin market. For these people Bitcoin is too boring as it doesn't move like 25-50% several times a month. But it's quite funny that as soon as the price of Bitcoin shoots up, they start selling their crappy altcoins like there is no tomorrow. At the long run, just like is the case with gambling, these people are only losing.

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Quote from: Amadues on December 03, 2016, 09:48:55 AM

trading is unpredictable job because people in the vast majority of case doesn't know anything about trading.
So become just a waste of time and money, it's more similar to gamble.
Anyway trading with altcoins is really a big risk because 90% of that are just created to inflate the price and then crash for developer advantage.

In fact, if there is lack of knowledge, the chances of losses are quite high. Many users expect to make big profits overnight, this ends up causing them to lose the small opportunities, and selling with the wrong timing, often suffering a loss for it. But once the individual get experience, it's possible to decrease the chances of this happening.

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Quote from: densuj on August 01, 2016, 06:46:33 AM

There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?

I think trading is unpredictable for those who doesn't have proper knowledge about trading or those who are new on trading.I think people who have the actual skills of trading, who have proper knowledge about market they could certainly predict.

If people are focused on trading coins with less volumes then the possibility of losing money is high and that comes back to knowledge of how trading is to be conducted.I am sure many people lost money with scam coins and ico's .just trade coins which is having high volumes which is about a million dollars and then check the graph and volatility level and most certain you wont lost much

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Quote from: PokerFace3 on December 03, 2016, 12:00:29 PM

Yes trading with new altcoins are absolutely an unpredictable job. Because, they are not following any news and only some insiders decide the fluctuations so it is highly risky to trade new altcoins. Moreover trading new altcoin is just a gambling.

Not just with altcoins, whenever you are dealing with less resourced stocks/commodity, you might face the problem of unpredictability. Only when you are having all available news and affecting factors we will be able to predict the price movement of them easily.

Usually altcoins are controlled by few people that is the reason most of the time it remains unpredictable job.

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Quote from: Amadues on December 03, 2016, 09:48:55 AM

Anyway trading with altcoins is really a big risk because 90% of that are just created to inflate the price and then crash for developer advantage.

Yes trading with new altcoins are absolutely an unpredictable job. Because, they are not following any news and only some insiders decide the fluctuations so it is highly risky to trade new altcoins. Moreover trading new altcoin is just a gambling.

I stick within bitcoin trading and I do trade very few well established altcoins. So usually I do not feel trading as an unpredictable job.

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Quote from: Amadues on December 03, 2016, 09:48:55 AM

trading is unpredictable job because people in the vast majority of case doesn't know anything about trading.
So become just a waste of time and money, it's more similar to gamble.
Anyway trading with altcoins is really a big risk because 90% of that are just created to inflate the price and then crash for developer advantage.

you are right...
but you have to do with...
you can not say it is unpredicable because "other traders" do not know about...
show them that you have more knowledges about.

On my U2 system it is possible to trade and the "no knowleges from some members" does not matter to trade.

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trading is unpredictable job because people in the vast majority of case doesn't know anything about trading.
So become just a waste of time and money, it's more similar to gamble.
Anyway trading with altcoins is really a big risk because 90% of that are just created to inflate the price and then crash for developer advantage.

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