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November 10, 2023, 07:08:07 AM
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I have read many articles exaggerating bitcoin price prediction's from both those who claim to be professionals and diverse bitcoin enthusiasts which I felt the necessity within to drop this piece figuratively.

We are expecting too much from bitcoin in just a short time of about 13years since it's creation. By logic bitcoin is just a teenager who has not yet attained the status of adulthood like the forex market for example, yet it has penetrate and saturate the financial market (global economy) becoming the talk of the town in the internet like it has been here 50 years ago.

The high expectations should be moderated so we can be able to appreciate the milestone growth bitcoin price has made. Commensurable with its age bitcoin price is doing great and only those who are not highly expectant setting their price  scale at a great distance of 100k, 150k, 200k will care to appreciate the feat, some even predict as high as $1M in the next bull run and when the price doesn't go even close as expected they complain that the performance of bitcoin has been poor.

And this can be so discouraging for investors that planned on long term hodling with such a high expectancy. Learn to treat bitcoin like a teenager that's just coming up and still has its future ahead of it and stop the unequal comparison with other financial instruments like gold that have been around for decades.


A number of persons might suggest i move the topic to speculation board, however, I fondle it also suites here because the topic is not giving a prediction for BTC price but otherwise.   

When you go to Twitter, the predictions get funnier. I could remember when Bitcoin was at $31k and almost all the professional traders as they tag themselves claimed that BTC would fall from there. All of a sudden BTC rose to $34k.

The moral of this is to make sure you make your informed decision.. There are a couple of news apps and even some exchanges are doing well in giving out some daily news insights. So rather than listening to their speculations, make your prediction and be prevented from expectations
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November 10, 2023, 07:00:01 AM
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Just because bitcoin can go from $0.01 to $69k, they think bitcoin will be able to do it again easily and that going to $1 million is very easy. But they forgot to look at the market capitalization of bitcoin and that is why in recent years bitcoin no longer brings x100, x1000 profits like before, the profits that bitcoin brings are only x5, x10, and this number will get smaller and smaller as bitcoin gets bigger and bigger.
It's actually not easy, Bitcoin can reach an ATH of $69k, but there are many obstacles and even pros and cons.
It has been 14 years since Bitcoin was present which was initially only underestimated and considered useless digital money, no one even accepted Bitcoin.

But in the end, everything changed and gradually Bitcoin began to be accepted and the price began to soar until now, of course, it was a difficult road for Bitcoin.

About making x100, x1000 or even reaching $1 million is just a speculation that might be quite crazy for now.
x5 or x10 is already a pretty extraordinary increase, people who are still lacking with the increase are indeed too greedy.

Of course, anyone wants bitcoin to cost $1 million but we need to be realistic and it won't happen soon and it won't be easy. Even the goal of 100k USD that we have cherished for so long, but bitcoin still cannot be achieved, thinking about further goals is really too delusional.
Just need to wait and be patient on Bitcoin's journey.
See how past history has made bitcoin stronger until now.

The $100k goal is still quite reasonable and will certainly be achieved, but it takes time.
Nothing runs instantly, everything needs a process.
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November 10, 2023, 06:10:27 AM
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It's true that the price of Bitcoin has been a dream since its inception. When we buy a product we choose a brand. The higher the visibility of the brand, the higher the value. I think Bitcoin is a brand. Ever since we created Bitcoin, its visibility is so high, so its value is so high. Bitcoin is set to become a global financial medium. There are many who consider Bitcoin to be a bullish future, which I find to be an inspiration for Bitcoin to move forward. Due to such high expectations of the future, Bitcoin investment is increasing day by day.I think Bitcoin will one day surpass its human expectations.
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November 10, 2023, 05:54:43 AM
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Bitcoin is still a young currency, but, considering that it doesn't really have any agency of its own, I'm not sure how relevant comparison to human development is. Bitcoin is what people make of it, it doesn't do anything itself, so if we are treating it as immature, I suppose it kind of makes it so, but that's on us, not on Bitcoin. It remains to be seen whether Bitcoin will ever get stable in terms of the price and stop having long bearish and short bullish phases. Perhaps we should just accept it instead of expecting it to 'grow up'.

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November 10, 2023, 05:22:10 AM
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I have read many articles exaggerating bitcoin price prediction's from both those who claim to be professionals and diverse bitcoin enthusiasts which I felt the necessity within to drop this piece figuratively.
For me, people who have popularity definitely have an impact when talking about bitcoin, including predicting the price of bitcoin in the future. Although sometimes their predictions are off the mark and the price is too high.

More people predicting the price of bitcoin will create positive news for bitcoin and this will make it work organically and more people will do it interested in holding bitcoin. Influential people like Robert Kiyosaki and Elon Mask often exert significant influence when talking about Bitcoin or predicting Bitcoin prices.
I believe you do not understand the market psychology, there must be a strong and true value shared by your so-called influential persons before Bitcoin would react to their view. Take, for example, Elon Musk, he was so influential in the crypto space simply because he added value as a very rich man and used his company as leverage by dealing with crypto.

And you can't see him analyzing/predicting like those people the OP is trying to point to, he will never call a certain market price, but he could say it's going to the moon. Those people who have an asset in crypto and have a working company dealing with crypto have a huge say in the space, but not the normal investors and speculators who will just be calling prices that are mainly outrageous.

This applies to whales as well, their analysis means nothing unless they act with their money in relation to crypto. Even if they are influential, their analysis will not move a pin especially if they are unrealistic and unreasonable. This is how the market can preserve its sanctity.
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November 10, 2023, 04:19:54 AM
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Your logic is quite interesting, but it is what it is. Bitcoin is still young, but many people wants it to be worth a million even before it turns 18 years old, when we can actually consider it a full adult. Although it's just a lot of speculation for some people, for those who actually take those predictions so seriously, they end up getting disappointed if the price actually doesn't get to what they had expected. For me, I accept my faith in whatever outcome I get and am not very bet on resting my hope on one thing. Let's assume that Bitcoin doesn't get to $100k this coming bull market.
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People who only speculate about the price of Bitcoin that can reach $1 million or even more because they are too obsessed with Bitcoin and want Bitcoin to reach that price. For me, I don't really expect an unreasonable price for now.

Just $100k if it is really achieved is my first target point.
But if as you said, Bitcoin is not able to reach the ATH of $100k and tends to be below that is certainly not a problem,
$80k-$90k is a good enough price to take some profits.



I agree with you on this, too many people are haunted by bitcoin's past. Just because bitcoin can go from $0.01 to $69k, they think bitcoin will be able to do it again easily and that going to $1 million is very easy. But they forgot to look at the market capitalization of bitcoin and that is why in recent years bitcoin no longer brings x100, x1000 profits like before, the profits that bitcoin brings are only x5, x10, and this number will get smaller and smaller as bitcoin gets bigger and bigger.

Of course, anyone wants bitcoin to cost $1 million but we need to be realistic and it won't happen soon and it won't be easy. Even the goal of 100k USD that we have cherished for so long, but bitcoin still cannot be achieved, thinking about further goals is really too delusional.
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November 10, 2023, 03:26:45 AM
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It seems hesitant and overprotective. Bitcoin is only 13 years old, but in tech, thats a lifetime. Digital assets like Bitcoin mature faster than traditional assets due to rapid technological and market changes. Its a prodigy entering adulthood waiting to shake up the status quo.

Many are distracted by gold and forex comparisons. Bitcoin is uniquely different. This is a technological revolution in decentralisation and blockchain technology, not just another financial instrument. Its unfair to compare its growth to centuries-old assets.

High price forecasts are sometimes unrealistic. But arent innovation and market disruption always disruptive? Big dreams drive big results. Despite constant scepticism, Bitcoin has always proven them wrong. Not simply price, but underlying worth and revolutionary potential. That should be prioritised.
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November 09, 2023, 11:15:08 PM
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Your logic is quite interesting, but it is what it is. Bitcoin is still young, but many people wants it to be worth a million even before it turns 18 years old, when we can actually consider it a full adult. Although it's just a lot of speculation for some people, for those who actually take those predictions so seriously, they end up getting disappointed if the price actually doesn't get to what they had expected. For me, I accept my faith in whatever outcome I get and am not very bet on resting my hope on one thing. Let's assume that Bitcoin doesn't get to $100k this coming bull market.
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To be precise, Bitcoin is now 14 years old and this is still very young for Bitcoin.
But seeing the many impacts that occur in the economic sector Bitcoin plays a role as the most desirable digital asset,
Bitcoin is growing well until now with several adoptions made.

People who only speculate about the price of Bitcoin that can reach $1 million or even more because they are too obsessed with Bitcoin and want Bitcoin to reach that price. For me, I don't really expect an unreasonable price for now.

Just $100k if it is really achieved is my first target point.
But if as you said, Bitcoin is not able to reach the ATH of $100k and tends to be below that is certainly not a problem,
$80k-$90k is a good enough price to take some profits.

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November 09, 2023, 11:07:42 PM
#21
The ones that expect too much from bitcoin and complain if they don't get what they expect are the new ones. I mean, they've entered bitcoin lately because of the hype. They joined it and invested in it, thinking that in an instant they could earn a lot from it, but it's not. That's why they are the ones that complain too much about bitcoin, but for those who're in bitcoin even at its lowest price, they understand a lot about bitcoin, like what the OP says's bitcoin still has a lot of potential in the future. Imagine that bitcoin is still strong after several years, indicating that bitcoin will still be strong and has the potential to grow. What I'm referring to is its technology; bitcoin can still be used in many things; we never know. That's why I don't listen to the people who complain too much about bitcoin, because I know they are the inpatient ones.
Can't blame them though, they've probably heard of bitcoin from people that have hyped it up and probably have told them that the returns in investing in bitcoin is probably pretty high and that they can multiply it in such a speed that they got into it out of fear of missing out on potential profits and then they get in and they end up getting paying the wrong price which is experiencing losses because they bought at the wrong time. Don't close too quickly your mind in regards to people who complain, you can always listen to them complain but always take their words with a grain of salt.
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November 09, 2023, 10:56:47 PM
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Learn to treat bitcoin like a teenager that's just coming up and still has its future ahead of it and stop the unequal comparison with other financial instruments like gold that have been around for decades.


I don't see any inequality in bitcoin when people compare it to assets like gold or real estate. Many people even confidently believe that bitcoin is better than everything and superior in every aspect from profits to safety, no asset can surpass bitcoin. LAUGH!

You're right, not only do people have too high expectations for bitcoin, but many people even over-exaggerate about bitcoin. They not only expect bitcoin to reach 1 million dollars or 1 satoshi will be equal to 1 USD, but they also want bitcoin to save the world from poverty, reduce unemployment and bring peace to the world...they ask for too many things that are beyond what bitcoin is capable of.
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November 09, 2023, 10:15:43 PM
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I have read many articles exaggerating bitcoin price prediction's from both those who claim to be professionals and diverse bitcoin enthusiasts which I felt the necessity within to drop this piece figuratively.
Believe in yourself and to have solid belief, you must have knowledge about Bitcoin. Most important thing to master is Bitcoin's Controlled supply.

From Wiki, you can expand your knowledge about it with How is the 21 million Bitcoin cap defined and enforced? and Bitcoin Equivalent Network Time

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We are expecting too much from bitcoin in just a short time of about 13years since it's creation. By logic bitcoin is just a teenager who has not yet attained the status of adulthood like the forex market for example, yet it has penetrate and saturate the financial market (global economy) becoming the talk of the town in the internet like it has been here 50 years ago.
Consider Bitcoin as Bitcoin and don't try to consider it as a teenager or adolescent or elderly.

The bullish case for Bitcoin.

Talk about Bitcoin and Internet, Bitcoin has a sharper adoption curve than Internet.
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November 09, 2023, 07:54:28 PM
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I have read many articles exaggerating bitcoin price prediction's from both those who claim to be professionals and diverse bitcoin enthusiasts which I felt the necessity within to drop this piece figuratively.

We are expecting too much from bitcoin in just a short time of about 13years since it's creation. By logic bitcoin is just a teenager who has not yet attained the status of adulthood like the forex market for example, yet it has penetrate and saturate the financial market (global economy) becoming the talk of the town in the internet like it has been here 50 years ago.

To be honest, I treat it as still in it's infancy, and as much as we predicted the price based on it's past performance, in just like 13 years of age, the data is still inadequate in my opinion.


Yep. While Bitcoin may be a teenager in human time scale, at 15 years now, in terms of its own maturity it is still far from adolescence. I'd say its not quite an infant anymore, I'd say it broke out of infancy in 2017, but definitely like little kid stage haha. By the mid-2030s, when the average person doesn't think Bitcoin is a scam, or doesn't think the last peak was the highest Bitcoin will ever go, or thinks its going to zero, or its outdated old tech, or its illegal, and when it becomes normalized to own Bitcoin, then we could say Bitcoin is reaching is in its teenage years. Adulthood for Bitcoin would be when its actually normal and common to buy things with Bitcoin, but that'd probably like 20 years out from now. It's still a little kid for now.
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November 09, 2023, 06:57:10 PM
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The ones that expect too much from bitcoin and complain if they don't get what they expect are the new ones. I mean, they've entered bitcoin lately because of the hype. They joined it and invested in it, thinking that in an instant they could earn a lot from it, but it's not. That's why they are the ones that complain too much about bitcoin, but for those who're in bitcoin even at its lowest price, they understand a lot about bitcoin, like what the OP says's bitcoin still has a lot of potential in the future. Imagine that bitcoin is still strong after several years, indicating that bitcoin will still be strong and has the potential to grow. What I'm referring to is its technology; bitcoin can still be used in many things; we never know. That's why I don't listen to the people who complain too much about bitcoin, because I know they are the inpatient ones.
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November 09, 2023, 06:45:08 PM
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Your logic is quite interesting, but it is what it is. Bitcoin is still young, but many people wants it to be worth a million even before it turns 18 years old, when we can actually consider it a full adult. Although it's just a lot of speculation for some people, for those who actually take those predictions so seriously, they end up getting disappointed if the price actually doesn't get to what they had expected. For me, I accept my faith in whatever outcome I get and am not very bet on resting my hope on one thing. Let's assume that Bitcoin doesn't get to $100k this coming bull market. I don't see myself getting affected in any way unless the fact that I might not actually achieve the profit I was expecting means that if I don't get the profit, I could still sell off some holdings and wait for the bear market to buy more.
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November 09, 2023, 06:16:37 PM
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And this can be so discouraging for investors that planned on long term hodling with such a high expectancy. Learn to treat bitcoin like a teenager that's just coming up and still has its future ahead of it and stop the unequal comparison with other financial instruments like gold that have been around for decades.

This is what we call speculation and I don't know why it is discouraging for investors.  Since many investors see huge potential in the Bitcoin market, being a teenager as discussed, it has huge potential to grow way more than our expectation.  Like a promising genius teenager, parents and people who knows this genius teenager will also predict and expect great things from this teenager. 

In short, it is normal to expect something great if the performance of Bitcoin shows great things.  It should not be a discouragement for investors but rather it should be an encouragement to hodl and accumulate more Bitcoin to get more profit in the future.
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November 09, 2023, 06:07:55 PM
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We can't stop the prediction now because it from the onset. And it is this high expectancy of prediction that making people to have hope and invest in it. So the prediction is necessary as for me. That expectation is interesting part of bitcoin. Yes as you said, bitcoin is still in it teenage age but it matured pass it colleagues in the ecosystem. I don't think the prediction can be moderated because there is a freedom of speech and everyone has the right to predict any amount of their choice.

It is the predictions that making Investors to come more so it will not discourage them but instead it bring more people to invest in it.

that’s true
but it could also drive away beginners thinking it’s too good to be true especially if the price is way too high or maybe even think that cryptocurrency in general is a scam 

i think we all should aim to teach new investors the risks and how they should manage their expectations or lest they make the wrong decisions
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November 09, 2023, 05:56:34 PM
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While the time passes by, you'll see more high price speculations especially when it starts to hit the 6 digits mark. That's where most of the gurus, crypto experts and even normal enthusiasts will be happy to predict their own numbers and it's going to be everywhere. This is one of the great beauty of this market, we're all free here, free to come, free to go, free to predict, free to listen but taking those it's all up to us.
You forgot another free thing to do and that is free to buy any amount we want. I do agree with you that some people do say that it is expensive for them to buy but I think they are not thinking that you may buy in smaller amount and doesn't have to be a Bitcoin when they want to buy.
Yeah, thanks for adding that. We're free to buy any amount at any time. That's also one of the best things that we can always remember about Bitcoin. People think of the high price but they don't want to dive in and believe that they can buy at any price that they wish to when they have the money ready to buy in for the market.

I am sure you know what I mean about it and if they bought Bitcoin like $1000 then that's what they will have but the amount won't be the same as it depends on the price.
Yeah mate, no worries. I understand it and that's what they're also missing when they just look at the projection of the price of Bitcoin and then forget everything about it. They can buy cheaply but of course they'll only get a certain quantity of Bitcoin since the price is higher but they're forgetting that many times Bitcoin got into a bearish turn and they did just ignored it.

Well see what they will do when it happen.
What they like to do is to buy when it's moving up because FOMO is real by that time.
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November 09, 2023, 05:48:07 PM
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While the time passes by, you'll see more high price speculations especially when it starts to hit the 6 digits mark. That's where most of the gurus, crypto experts and even normal enthusiasts will be happy to predict their own numbers and it's going to be everywhere. This is one of the great beauty of this market, we're all free here, free to come, free to go, free to predict, free to listen but taking those it's all up to us.
You forgot another free thing to do and that is free to buy any amount we want. I do agree with you that some people do say that it is expensive for them to buy but I think they are not thinking that you may buy in smaller amount and doesn't have to be a Bitcoin when they want to buy. I am sure you know what I mean about it and if they bought Bitcoin like $1000 then that's what they will have but the amount won't be the same as it depends on the price. Well see what they will do when it happen.
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November 09, 2023, 05:32:48 PM
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It is okay to speculate and predict with high predictions and that's what freedom of expression is. We all know that Bitcoin is still young considering that many people think that it's highly priced already and way too expensive for them to buy. But that's not the point, we're basing its performance in the past and those high speculations are basing it from there.

And it is a normal thing because bitcoin is highly speculative and this is what this market is all about, a speculative market just as how its main asset is in. I understand the point and people shouldn't expect a lot so when it isn't reached, you don't get hurt with your feelings. That is a good concern.

While the time passes by, you'll see more high price speculations especially when it starts to hit the 6 digits mark. That's where most of the gurus, crypto experts and even normal enthusiasts will be happy to predict their own numbers and it's going to be everywhere. This is one of the great beauty of this market, we're all free here, free to come, free to go, free to predict, free to listen but taking those it's all up to us.
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November 09, 2023, 05:31:31 PM
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We can't stop the prediction now because it from the onset. And it is this high expectancy of prediction that making people to have hope and invest in it. So the prediction is necessary as for me. That expectation is interesting part of bitcoin. Yes as you said, bitcoin is still in it teenage age but it matured pass it colleagues in the ecosystem. I don't think the prediction can be moderated because there is a freedom of speech and everyone has the right to predict any amount of their choice.

It is the predictions that making Investors to come more so it will not discourage them but instead it bring more people to invest in it.
The high expectations predictions sure can be moderated provided we all respectively decides to be intentional with our predictions and not out of a freedom of speech as you stated and not using bitcoin price prediction as a medium to sell our personality and institution to public notice. Because I observe these millionaires we classify as whales pull up some of these figures from nowhere just to sell their name in the news.

Whether we predict the price so high or moderate new and more investors will continue to resurface bitcoin doesn't need our high predictions to attract in new investors. A good investor would have to do his own research and know for himself to invest in a project or not and not by what the crowd are chanting.
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