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Topic: Trojan Wallet stealer be careful - page 7. (Read 180287 times)

sr. member
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August 16, 2014, 08:12:59 PM
Is the trojan only for Windows or need the rest of us be scared too? Embarrassed
In my opinion Ubuntu is safe for everything. Nothing to be afraid of while using Ubuntu.
Kindly,
        Muhammed Zakhir

Who the hell told you this? Stop spreading shit that isn't true.
hero member
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August 16, 2014, 08:08:31 PM
Thank you for this, I put up a hard password so good luck withdrawing bitches.
newbie
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August 14, 2014, 11:50:08 PM
thanks for help on it.

that's a good warning. we must beware of posibility crime on this forum, like this one. crime is not just want to do it for the reason, but some chance could make it happen.

let's keep our eyes.
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 03:37:57 AM
Thanks for the information and i will be more careful from now on...
newbie
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August 12, 2014, 12:36:14 PM
thanks for warning will be careful
newbie
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August 03, 2014, 01:41:58 PM
~~Is good to know~~
~~Thanks for the Info!~~
donator
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July 30, 2014, 10:10:57 PM
The fact of the matter is you have to use rather inconvenient safeguards to ensure, w/ certainty, your coins are safe.
Just like you have to jump through hoops to make sure your cash (whether physical or digital) is safe. I've had my physical wallet stolen twice (once in my house by a plumber, even), and lost once, but I've never had my qt/Core wallet lost or stolen, and I've been using both almost as long, being fairly young. Just to get a bank account in the US, there's a long form to fill out, requiring all sorts of government info and in some cases, a fingerprint or a "vein print." Though SOME forms of cash is supposedly safe from theft in SOME cases, the hassle of recovery is, in a good few instances, more hassle than it's worth. US high schools (including where I went, in the middle of nowhere) actually have personal finance courses to teach teenagers how to use this complex system, from writing checks and securing cash to figuring out the pros and cons of different kinds of bank accounts and figuring out what the Hell TransUnion is. -But people need a bank account because it's what everyone else is using, and like switching from the imperial to metric system, it's a PitA current adults aren't interested in taking so long as the current system can continue limping along (though still a bad long-term plan to go with). -And I STILL don't understand fiat issuance fully (along with a few grads of university Quantitative courses). THAT's a complex system almost impossible to fully wrap your head around.

I'd argue what's really putting "normal" middle-aged people off to Bitcoin is just the worry about screwing something up and losing money because they just aren't very familiar with computer software in general and think this is some type of high-level sorcery only able to be understood by basement-dwelling neckbeards and MIT grads (... assuming a difference Grin) when it's as simple as copy-pasting one string of characters (or clicking a URI), double-checking it to make sure you/it copied the string right, then clicking the button to send it off (and hopefully, entering your password in).

I think it's really just fear of the unfamiliar, and I think that's compounded when we're really paranoid because we don't want them to lose any money on our advice, so we give them really over-the-top security measures we insist they take to keep $300 in BTC secure when they'd almost certainly never run into a security issue using a lite client without any significant changes to their general browsing/use habits. We -- and I'm using "we" really loosely here, because I mean to say "I" and assume most others are paranoid when someone comes to them for advice on what to do with their wealth -- tend to basically tell them the equivalent of keeping 2+ physical wallets for their cash, one they keep on-hand with a trivial amount in but for which they still tether to a hole cut into their body with a key they keep in another compartment of their body they had cut with a waterproof-bag which only opens with your fingerprint, and one which is kept inside mini-safes under a floorboard with a significant amount of cash (or even better, with some buried under floor boards, some kept buried in the backyard, and some stuffed into a tree) with keys kept in bank safeboxes, though you obviously don't want to keep all the keys in the same box or even the same bank -- you want to use different keys, and ideally, you'll use modular key parts, where there are maybe three key parts fit together, and you need any two keys to open one box, where these various key combinations are stored on a hidden, encrypted hard drive partition which uses a n-of-m password you've written down and given to various family members and well-trusted friends to decrypt. -And really, for a casual user with a "casual" amount of cash, the paranoid advice we give is just fucking stupid. Almost nobody keeps tens of thousands of dollars under their mattress, but it's almost like we assume everyone curious about Bitcoin's going to have 100BTC just sitting around on their Android BTC wallet, though maybe this is just from too many people in the past going full-retard and investing tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars into something they just accumulated a cursory understanding of thirty minutes ago because they have some intuitive sense that it's the next big thing because young people are using it. Those people really ought to be waiting until they can just have their EdwardJones agent, or whoever, buy BTC (or a representative fund) for them, and maybe we're just too enthusiastic about BTC to tell them to wait for an established corporation to professionally handle (and insure) their life savings.
newbie
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July 30, 2014, 05:27:04 PM
BTC won't make it very long if this keeps up.

It's nothing to do with Bitcoin itself, it's stupid idiots who fuck up something on their computer and decide to blame what they're using for the problem rather than realising what happened, it's something technology has had to deal with for ages now, human stupidity, if you ever get a lot of Bitcoins the best solution is to clearly store it offline and make sure it is properly backed up. Sorry, you just reminded me of an argument I had with my dad when I was trying to tell him he needed to enter in information for the nameservers on my web host when even a support staff there said we needed to, then when he finally bloody did it, the website was working fine.

Actually, he is absolutely correct about btc not making it. You can condescendingly preach about the stupidity / ignorance of people susceptible to coin stealing malware. Pontificate all you like and continue w/ irrelevant analogies like leaving a wallet on the dashboard of your car. The fact of the matter is you have to use rather inconvenient safeguards to ensure, w/ certainty, your coins are safe. For btc to " make it " it has to be practical, secure and easy for the average Joe layman to use. It is definitely none of those things. The little issue of irreversibility is likewise a deterrent to btc proliferation. So blast away if that boosts your intellectual ego. I think, btc will continue to be relegated to it's current use and form. Perhaps though another digital currency, that nullifies btc issues, will someday go into more mainstream use.
newbie
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July 30, 2014, 03:48:42 AM
Thanks for the post
jr. member
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July 14, 2014, 02:01:46 PM
thank you for the information dude  Smiley
newbie
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June 30, 2014, 11:45:45 AM
If anything, the wallet needs to be encrypted by default
legendary
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June 23, 2014, 06:44:32 AM
I encrypted my wallet with in-built option, is it secure?  Roll Eyes Huh

Kindly,
           Muhammed Zakhir

Not if you have a trojan that spies on your keyboard. When you spend something from the wallet, the trojan will see your passphrase, and then the attacker can potentially spend the rest of your wallet contents.
But a password protected wallet is at least somewhat more secure in that a simple attack reading the wallet file will not suffice.

Onkel Paul
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June 23, 2014, 06:32:43 AM
I encrypted my wallet with in-built option, is it secure?  Roll Eyes Huh

Kindly,
           Muhammed Zakhir
hero member
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Becoming legend, but I took merit to the knee :(
June 11, 2014, 11:22:40 PM
Many still do not know about this which is sad when thier wallet just empties
newbie
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June 11, 2014, 02:36:05 AM
Hey thanks for the warning. This is why I try to only download things from the official website. I don't even use GitHub.
Upss... Dude this website is for sure a Java Drive Bay be carefull...
hero member
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June 09, 2014, 12:26:55 PM
Hey thanks for the warning. This is why I try to only download things from the official website. I don't even use GitHub.
hero member
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
June 07, 2014, 11:33:10 PM
Is the trojan only for Windows or need the rest of us be scared too? Embarrassed
In my opinion Ubuntu is safe for everything. Nothing to be afraid of while using Ubuntu.
Kindly,
        Muhammed Zakhir
legendary
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May 31, 2014, 09:21:11 AM
#99
I got 26 Bitcoin stolen in the past 3 months. NO MORE. I have all my bitcoin on Cryptsy now.
How that happened ? This is only one stealing or several times?
BR
legendary
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I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
May 19, 2014, 02:45:12 AM
#98
There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

Nefario

Is this thread an exercise in recognition of irony?

You warn us not to install anything linked to on this forum and then in the next line you link to a windows executable?

I don't run windoze so i couldn't install your trojan even if i wanted to but anway, thanks for the laughs.
legendary
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May 13, 2014, 12:43:54 PM
#97
Thank you very much for sharing such a useful and important information with us. keep it up.
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