OP is not owner of mybitcoin.com thread frozen.
Topic: [TROLL] Important Announcement Regarding the Mybitcoin.com Downtime (Read 12083 times)
August 02, 2011, 05:44:33 AM
August 02, 2011, 05:21:58 AM
mods should close this thread imo
August 02, 2011, 05:04:03 AM
This idea was conceived on the somethingawful forums. One member outlined a plan to make this post if someone could get him a mybitcoin logo. So no, its not Tom Williams.
But there's stairs in this thread.
But there's stairs in this thread.
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Where? I don't remember seeing any mention of this, but I haven't looked hard and it sounds plausible...
A poster on page 366 of the GBS thread came up with the idea and said to PM him the logo and he would edit out that part of the post. He apparently got the logo and the post was indeed edited.
August 02, 2011, 05:00:29 AM
Is this a system you have physical access to? Chances are you could use something like recuva or encase to recover a wallet.dat file since in most cases "deleting" something doesn't really delete anything at all... Depends on the filesystem/OS/etc of course, and it certainly wouldn't count as "touching" the system since you're only reading data.
As far as I know, my utility for recovering bitcoin private keys is probably still the best option - though it doesn't recover any other information from the wallet.dat like account information, and obviously it can't recover any external databases used to store account details. A lot of recovery tools are based on file magic numbers, and BDB doesn't seem to have any obvious ones. (Of course, that would only help in the unlikely event the original post isn't a troll.)This idea was conceived on the somethingawful forums. One member outlined a plan to make this post if someone could get him a mybitcoin logo. So no, its not Tom Williams.
But there's stairs in this thread.
Where? I don't remember seeing any mention of this, but I haven't looked hard and it sounds plausible... But there's stairs in this thread.
August 02, 2011, 04:53:40 AM
This is not the owner of mybitcoin.
August 02, 2011, 04:51:57 AM
Guys please... Think about the real Tom Williams skilled enough to create a website such as "mybitcoin" and has been running this site for a long time now, In other words he knows how bitcoin works and has the skills. Do you really believe there is no backup and buy into the FBI story?? come on he has probably been around bitcoin longer than most of us here going by the amount of time the site has been up and running. Sorry im not buying this at all....
He called the CYBERPOLICE
conseguences will never be the same
August 02, 2011, 04:50:06 AM
Guys please... Think about the real Tom Williams skilled enough to create a website such as "mybitcoin" and has been running this site for a long time now, In other words he knows how bitcoin works and has the skills. Do you really believe there is no backup and buy into the FBI story?? come on he has probably been around bitcoin longer than most of us here going by the amount of time the site has been up and running. Sorry im not buying this at all....
Exactly. It's far more plausible he ran with them
August 02, 2011, 04:48:22 AM
Guys please... Think about the real Tom Williams skilled enough to create a website such as "mybitcoin" and has been running this site for a long time now, In other words he knows how bitcoin works and has the skills. Do you really believe there is no backup and buy into the FBI story?? come on he has probably been around bitcoin longer than most of us here going by the amount of time the site has been up and running. Sorry im not buying this at all....
August 02, 2011, 04:46:20 AM
Luckily i have 0 bitcoins in these online services and what else.
Also if an attacker get access to wallet.dat it can simply move them to another wallet
Also if an attacker get access to wallet.dat it can simply move them to another wallet
August 02, 2011, 04:40:24 AM
I think the point is, if you understand bitcoin and understand how to setup a service like this, backing up the bitcoin wallet would be the least of their concern... There's simply no excuse and believing that it could actually be true is an insult to these people's intelligence.
Not that I want to give them too much credit, its still hard to believe someone would't have at least a couple backups..
Not that I want to give them too much credit, its still hard to believe someone would't have at least a couple backups..
August 02, 2011, 04:39:26 AM
This idea was conceived on the somethingawful forums. One member outlined a plan to make this post if someone could get him a mybitcoin logo. So no, its not Tom Williams.
But there's stairs in this thread.
But there's stairs in this thread.
August 02, 2011, 04:36:00 AM
It's kind of ironic that the community doesn't trust Joe average to back up his wallet properly but has blind faith that Bitcoin related services will keep multiple back ups of their data.
Honestly, backing up your wallet.dat is not that hard. Anyone can get three cd's and make three copies. There is no excuse.
Being a business is harder because new addresses are created and you have to do it regularly but still, its nothing specially complicated.
For being so technologically intelligent, I think what you said is completely idiotic. This kind of naivete only adds to peoples' reluctance to join Bitcoin. Yep, everyone knows how to back-up a hidden file and recover it without risk of losing their BTC in the event something goes wrong. Sure. Sure they do.
Edit: I'll give you being a business is harder.
So you think copying a file (wallet.dat) into a couple of cd's or usb drivers or whatever is something only people with a computer science degree can do? How hard is to copy a file in a couple of cd's?
First of all, flash drives are very unreliable. I copied mine to a flash drive and the thing broke and I didn't even have to touch it. That's what happens when a USB has a poor soldering job.
Second of all, ask my mom or dad how easy it is to do. Go ahead. I dare you. Then tell them that depending on your computer's settings the file might be hidden when you search for it. Then tell them how to uncover the file. Then tell them how to retrieve the coins in the event that the original wallet is lost. See how 'easy' it is for them to understand. And these are middle class citizens who have had a computer in their home for ~ 20 years -- the 'average' population. Contrary to what you think, many people don't even own computers let alone have a clue how to begin to navigate one. You just lost most of the 50+ generation if they were to read that.
August 02, 2011, 04:23:20 AM
It's kind of ironic that the community doesn't trust Joe average to back up his wallet properly but has blind faith that Bitcoin related services will keep multiple back ups of their data.
Honestly, backing up your wallet.dat is not that hard. Anyone can get three cd's and make three copies. There is no excuse.
Being a business is harder because new addresses are created and you have to do it regularly but still, its nothing specially complicated.
For being so technologically intelligent, I think what you said is completely idiotic. This kind of naivete only adds to peoples' reluctance to join Bitcoin. Yep, everyone knows how to back-up a hidden file and recover it without risk of losing their BTC in the event something goes wrong. Sure. Sure they do.
Edit: I'll give you being a business is harder.
So you think copying a file (wallet.dat) into a couple of cd's or usb drivers or whatever is something only people with a computer science degree can do? How hard is to copy a file in a couple of cd's?
August 02, 2011, 04:20:34 AM
I give him a shot, what we have to lose? at list there is a try!
August 02, 2011, 04:14:28 AM
I'd bet good money that some of the Bitcoin related services still have inadequate security and back ups.
True. But online wallet services not having a backup of their wallet.dat? I'll never buy that.
If you run an online wallet, you already have to interface with the bitcoind anyway. There's a nifty little command for it, called "backupwallet". backupwallet /path/to/your/backupwallet.dat is literally all you need. And if nothing else, just go ahead and download that backup file to your local workstation's hard disk or email it to your gmail account, whatever.
Any online wallet service provider claiming not to have a single backup of their wallet.dat is a plain liar.
August 02, 2011, 04:14:01 AM
Then the question is who whitelisted him?
August 02, 2011, 04:06:38 AM
C'mon guys, obvious troll is obvious.
The actual owner of MyBitcoin PGP signs his messages.
The actual owner of MyBitcoin PGP signs his messages.
August 02, 2011, 04:04:41 AM
No, you never said you had 30 years of experience, but you did just make fun of someone for getting hacked. The fact you were taunted and made fun of and accused of being a thief and all the other crap associated with the intrusion to Mt.Gox, though, means that maybe you should actually understand what it feels like, and be an adult. Instead of taking the first opportunity you get to try and publicly humiliate someone else to get yourself a little payback.
pointing a lie is not making fun, its just pointing a lie
August 02, 2011, 03:59:33 AM
I highly doubt this is the real Tom Williams. Quoting again from https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/from-the-desk-of-tom-williams-operator-of-mybitcoincom-22221 :
I have completely lost access to the files that were hosted on the website and did not have a local backup of that data.
August 02, 2011, 03:59:02 AM
Prove that you are the owner of MyBitcoin.
+1
I have a hard time believing MyBitcoin had no off line backups of its wallet.
It's frighteningly common for small businesses not to have any backups at all of their data, let alone off-site and off-line backups. While you'd think that a service which exists to protect people from deleting their own data or having it stolen and security would be extra vigilant about back ups, successful intrusions are a weekly event and businesses which should "know better" are often the target. Whether this particular story is true or not, I'd bet good money that some of the Bitcoin related services still have inadequate security and back ups.
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