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January 06, 2015, 12:18:03 AM
#22
there are 3 types of posters in the speculation sub.
1. To The Moon!
2. Sky Is Falling!
3. Sideways forever!

none of them know what they are talking about.

I don't think anyone does when it comes to the price/valuation. I don't really go/post in the Speculation sub becsuse it seems to be just kids saying the same three things you mentioned day in day out thread after thread.

To be fair there are a few members trying to analyse the market using various tools and I found a (very) few threads in the speculation subforum interesting enough to watch. While the majority falls into the before mentioned three groups there are a few notable exceptions.

I think that as was said above, too many folks bought into bitcoin at the same time as a sort of get-rich-quick scheme.  This is what caused the price to skyrocket so high.  Now, slowly but surely, these folks decide "whoops" and sell off their bitcoins.  Those of us who bought in early haven't lost money and are still around, still hashing blocks, still developing cool technology on the protocol. 

I don't feel the "Get rich quick" group generally would spend lots of time and energy venting their resentment on this forum. It doesn't really benefit them in any way. I would expect them to at most make a few posts and then to move on. What would motivate them to keep complaining for more than a month? I think there must be other motivators for the sustained trolling. Market manipulation seems the most obvious one to me, though I wonder if posting on this forum is an effective to manipulate anything.

IMO the influx of trolling and infighting is due to the fact that STAFF NOW MODERATE TRUST. This has become a very effective methods for trolls to make accusation after accusation against trusted members in order to make sure they are burned by the staff run witch hunt. This is a simple way for burned scammers and trolls to get retribution, by burning down a trusted user's hard earned trust (often takes years to build). This results in all sorts of infighting and forces long trusted members to have to defend their reputations from any user who can manage to type up a complaint about their trust rating. This is causing the community to eat itself from the inside out, and the staff are helping the trolls rip this community apart, realizing it or not.

Since when do staff moderate trust? I never got that memo... Is it true? Sounds like you got burnt and are taking it out on... Anyone other then yourself. Just my totally unfounded opinion though.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 11:08:05 PM
#21
IMO the influx of trolling and infighting is due to the fact that STAFF NOW MODERATE TRUST. This has become a very effective methods for trolls to make accusation after accusation against trusted members in order to make sure they are burned by the staff run witch hunt. This is a simple way for burned scammers and trolls to get retribution, by burning down a trusted user's hard earned trust (often takes years to build). This results in all sorts of infighting and forces long trusted members to have to defend their reputations from any user who can manage to type up a complaint about their trust rating. This is causing the community to eat itself from the inside out, and the staff are helping the trolls rip this community apart, realizing it or not.
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January 05, 2015, 10:37:00 PM
#20
I think that as was said above, too many folks bought into bitcoin at the same time as a sort of get-rich-quick scheme.  This is what caused the price to skyrocket so high.  Now, slowly but surely, these folks decide "whoops" and sell off their bitcoins.  Those of us who bought in early haven't lost money and are still around, still hashing blocks, still developing cool technology on the protocol. 
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January 05, 2015, 10:33:13 PM
#19
there are 3 types of posters in the speculation sub.
1. To The Moon!
2. Sky Is Falling!
3. Sideways forever!

none of them know what they are talking about.

I don't think anyone does when it comes to the price/valuation. I don't really go/post in the Speculation sub becsuse it seems to be just kids saying the same three things you mentioned day in day out thread after thread.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 10:26:02 PM
#18
there are 3 types of posters in the speculation sub.
1. To The Moon!
2. Sky Is Falling!
3. Sideways forever!

none of them know what they are talking about.

I don't think there are any more or less trolls here than usual, some days they are just a little louder.
You must use your own judgement!
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January 05, 2015, 09:34:09 PM
#17
Man, is it just me or has this whole forum been taken over by trolls shouting "the sky is falling" in the last few days?

What gives folks?



Have you not seen the price? That's why.

It is paid beartards trying to drive the price down by scaring people. Trust your own judgement.

Well, I dont think they are paid to spread FUD. But, I think, they are frustrated due to the recent price fall. These people never had the time to read the whitepaper and thought bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme. So, they bought some coins and as the price is low for a while, they are getting hyper.

It's probably a little of both, during these "down" times it seems like alot of people try to spread FUD to drive/keep prices down so they can buy more.

Yeah I agree. Some people just get excited by the activity, though some people have an agenda or just like to troll. It certainly wouldn't surprise me if some people are getting paid to troll/AstroTurf.


Many abuse signature campaigns. I see accounts writing 2-3 line comments that on superficial inspection seem to be fine but actually show the poster has not even read the thread and/or understands the subject.

This is one of the things I look for, but it can be hard to spot just from looking at a post history, usually requires reading or participating in the thread they post in. You should report it.

As BadBear said you can report people who are seemingly just posting the bare minimum but remember newbs are always going to newb and you don't need to write an essay for each individual post, but I agree with you if people are just putting next to no effort in but this can happen with or without signature campaigns and usually a warning or short temp ban will make them reconsider their contributions.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 09:18:56 PM
#16

Many abuse signature campaigns. I see accounts writing 2-3 line comments that on superficial inspection seem to be fine but actually show the poster has not even read the thread and/or understands the subject.

This is one of the things I look for, but it can be hard to spot just from looking at a post history, usually requires reading or participating in the thread they post in. You should report it.
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January 05, 2015, 08:59:56 PM
#15
It is paid beartards trying to drive the price down by scaring people. Trust your own judgement.

Well, I dont think they are paid to spread FUD. But, I think, they are frustrated due to the recent price fall. These people never had the time to read the whitepaper and thought bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme. So, they bought some coins and as the price is low for a while, they are getting hyper.

I used to think no one was getting paid to troll, but while I still think it's unlikely, I'm not so sure
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January 05, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
#14
This forum is definately full of trolls. They just spam so that they can get into their signature campaigns.

A lot of signature campaigns have rules and guidelines and they often check peoples posts to make sure they are not spamming their way to the top or to exceed posts or to make sure its not just a 1 liner or lol  bump and try getting paid for it. In fact a lot of signature campaigns now set limits in place like a max of 100 to 300 and some only have a max of 50 posts counted in a month due to the overwhelming amount of people that where abusing the power of it. Myself I like them as to many others do to. Some abuse it and just cause more to run into problems with spam. Its a cheap way to get exposure for business to grow and expand providing they get the exposure and customers. Some it is money wasted but gets their name out their for the future and ranking across places like alex ranks.

Many abuse signature campaigns. I see accounts writing 2-3 line comments that on superficial inspection seem to be fine but actually show the poster has not even read the thread and/or understands the subject. Sure, some campaigns filter out obvious spam posts. But there are many low quality posts because of the signature campaigns.

But I feel that is a separate problem. Trolls and accounts spreading fud in attempt to manipulate the markets have been poisoning the forum for a long time. There is still value here, but you have to look good to find it.
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January 05, 2015, 08:58:41 PM
#13
lol i still cant beileve how low the price has dropped to the last time i purchased bitcoin ...amazing , will it drop further or go higher...we will see
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 08:50:22 PM
#12
This forum is definately full of trolls. They just spam so that they can get into their signature campaigns.

A lot of signature campaigns have rules and guidelines and they often check peoples posts to make sure they are not spamming their way to the top or to exceed posts or to make sure its not just a 1 liner or lol  bump and try getting paid for it. In fact a lot of signature campaigns now set limits in place like a max of 100 to 300 and some only have a max of 50 posts counted in a month due to the overwhelming amount of people that where abusing the power of it. Myself I like them as to many others do to. Some abuse it and just cause more to run into problems with spam. Its a cheap way to get exposure for business to grow and expand providing they get the exposure and customers. Some it is money wasted but gets their name out their for the future and ranking across places like alex ranks.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 08:38:27 PM
#11
in the last few days?
You mean last few years?
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January 05, 2015, 08:27:05 PM
#10
This forum is definately full of trolls. They just spam so that they can get into their signature campaigns.
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January 05, 2015, 07:29:32 PM
#9
There have always been trolls and there always be trolls, whatever their motives are.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 07:27:08 PM
#8
Indeed Bcointalk has many trolls however I do like a good troll fight and love the fud they like to spread and drop prices on things. Gives me a warm feeling when I know prices get trolled down and panic sellers be panicking and selling and I just end up buying and holding for the future when it goes back up after a few days.
sr. member
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January 05, 2015, 06:34:26 PM
#7
Altcoin fanatics are as guilty as any group for their Bitcoin is doomed prophecies.

They like to think the shitcoin they hold large numbers of will overtake the big BTC.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 06:26:07 PM
#6
I think the serious bitcoin developers consider almost all of this forum as trolling.  Tongue
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January 05, 2015, 05:56:07 PM
#5
It is paid beartards trying to drive the price down by scaring people. Trust your own judgement.
Actually this man is right. Either those people are being paid or are mentally dead.

They can choose which option they like better.  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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January 05, 2015, 05:42:49 PM
#4
It is paid beartards trying to drive the price down by scaring people. Trust your own judgement.

Well, I dont think they are paid to spread FUD. But, I think, they are frustrated due to the recent price fall. These people never had the time to read the whitepaper and thought bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme. So, they bought some coins and as the price is low for a while, they are getting hyper.

It's probably a little of both, during these "down" times it seems like alot of people try to spread FUD to drive/keep prices down so they can buy more.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 05:30:32 PM
#3
It is paid beartards trying to drive the price down by scaring people. Trust your own judgement.

Well, I dont think they are paid to spread FUD. But, I think, they are frustrated due to the recent price fall. These people never had the time to read the whitepaper and thought bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme. So, they bought some coins and as the price is low for a while, they are getting hyper.
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