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Well, as long as we're pretending that you're not the scammer "Garry Simon" and that you're a satisfied customer of his and that you didn't promote a bunch of scam sites, why don't you want to put your money where your mouth is? If everything you've done here is legit and above board, I'm offering you a really easy 2 bitcoin. "Garry" has been begging for me to send him just one more payment and it was your thread that started this mess for me so how about you put up the 1 bitcoin security I'm asking for?
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I own all the 7 sites suggested?
this kinda must be...the greatest joke..of all...
get busy...i got work..to..do.
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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
To: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 3:17 AM

No one has said we scammed them..unless his or her payment had problems.
We dont scam.

Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
To: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:04 AM

Never scammed anyone. Happy New Yr to you Dear.

"Dear"? Anyone that's read any Nigerian scammer email before binning it will recognise their odd predilection for that term of reference. Pig's arse you're based in Illinois, "Garry", you low-life scamming worm.

Hey, coinbuyer, do you still want to pretend that you're not scammer "Garry Simon" and that you haven't just been promoting your own scams on this forum? Well then, I've got an offer for you. Put up 1 bitcoin with a trusted escrow provider on this forum as security, I will then pay what "Garry Smith" asks. If "Garry" finally pays the 10 bitcoin he owes me, you get your bitcoin back from the escrow and I will pay you 2 bitcoin.
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This post is to remind people that I got ripped off after contacting a site listed in this thread started by coinbuyer: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/buying-bitcoins-with-paypal-and-others-775272

All of the links supplied by coinbuyer (aka scammer "Garry Simon") should be considered as scams:

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Scammer "Garry Simon" has at least two other alts, litecoinbtc https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/litecoinbtc-396848 and johnsonn https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/johnsonn-402892
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I just updated my OP with this:

This scam site has been cycling through a number of alternate blogspot addresses. Currently one of them is http://payypalexchange.blogspot.com/

They all look fairly similar though.





This is the dodgy screenshot "Garry Simon" sent me on the 18th of September 2014. It proves nothing but he's really sensitive about it for some reason.

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Hello "Garry". I thought you didn't bother with any forums??

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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone
From: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
To: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 9:35 PM

Just for once, just for the sheer novelty of it, show a tiny, little bit
of good faith, send me one bitcoin. That will prove to me that you're
not completely full of shit. Then I will pay your stupid fee. I can't be
any more reasonable than that. For all the money I've sent you, for all
the hassle you've put me through, for all your lame excuses, here's your
chance to prove that your intentions were actually good all along.

For that matter, Mr.Oh-so-legitimate-bitcoin-trading-professional, why
don't you just take your stupid fee out of what you owe me and send me
the rest? Wouldn't that be the easiest possible solution? Or is problem
solving such an unfamiliar concept to you?

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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone
From: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
To: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:06 PM

Hello Chris,

We told we dont ulter ones money, coins. Your coins is deposited in one wallet and we do not and shall never touch it. the fee is cost we incured for protection against theft because we were under attack sometimes.

We dont and will not send 0.0001 BTC to prove anything. We are not a child here but we have answered this question here long ago. I have told you to read our mail conversation over and over again because anything you will ask has been answered there.

Lastly We wont hold your paypal funds for 72hrs or 48hrs We have told you 1hr. Send paypal after 1hr you dont get your BTC then Claim back the funds. The money you sent is small considering what we handle and we have showed you that before. So please kindly read our mails again and when you send the paypal you will be forced to eat back your words for all the bad names you have called us.

Thanks.
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ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!!!
Bit_Stacker email is [email protected] .
Note: Not gmail, Not Yahoo but Fastmail.net
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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
To: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:45 AM

> We are paying for cold storage security
 
Why? Don't you know how to generate a new bitcoin wallet with an offline computer?
 
> The screenshot we showed you is [...] we cannot show anything again to you because you show them in public forum.
 
That's not true. But I don't see why I shouldn't share that image, it's just a doctored piece of crap that doesn't prove any of your claims. Why do you think exposing a wallet address is a security risk? If that were true, bitcoin would be useless.
 
> And if you keep posting in public forum our information then know that from now till the next 10yrs you will never [...
 
bla bla bla. How old are you? You come across like a child and not a very bright one either.
 
Why did you switch back to making threats instead of just answering the questions from my last email? I really want to know so you can start with: What is the business that you claim is holding my bitcoin in "cold storage"?
 
Actually, I also really want to know why you can't send my bitcoin to one of the trusted escrow guys on bitcointalk, why can't you show one tiny, little bit of good faith instead of continuing to behave like a lying, evasive piece of shit theif?   

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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
To: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 2:41 PM

Hello Chris,

We are not and never active in any forum. Any business you got in any
forum is for you.

Secondly read our mails again and see reason for another payment.

Your paypal payment was in review for up to 10days and we cant stop
our business activities because of it.

To know more please we cant keep talking the same thing always just
read this over and over again because we have said it over 50 times.

May you have a successful day.

Thanks.
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You are right, segvec. I have been scammed, I had to admit that to myself weeks ago. About the only good that can come out of it is for me to draw this person out and expose them for what they are so that anyone that cares to look can learn from my mistake.

As such:

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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
To: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:59 PM

Who is it that is allegedly holding my bitcoin in "cold storage"?
 
Why do you expect me to believe that such a thing should not only cost money but also be expensive?
 
Are you aware that "cold storage" of bitcoin simply means spending to a wallet address whose private key was generated on an off-line computer?
 
What is the wallet address that you claim has my 10 bitcoin?
 
Do you realise this alleged practice of yours of holding bitcoin for customers in individual wallet balances is inconsistent with the screen shot you once sent me showing a blockchain wallet, supposedly belonging to you, with a balance of 322.35011784 bitcoin?
 
Do you also realise that is inconsistent with your claimed hatred of fractional balances?

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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
To: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 1:01 AM

Hello Chris,

We sell volumes of coins and our email and system is under attack almost everyday. We are paying for cold storage security and we don't want to have it in our reserve so we wont loose any clients funds. We went on break because of constant long days review of paypal for your funds. The screenshot we showed you is what we wanted to show on our selling wallet stock and we cannot show anything again to you because you show them in public forum. And if you keep posting in public forum our information then know that from now till the next 10yrs you will never ever have the coins. If you stop and pay the 350 usd in 1hr after your paypal has been sent you have the coins.

Normally we should hold paypal for some days but we are giving you 1hr. If we don't send the coins chargeback on the money. this is to show you we are determined to end this long business problems you caused. Thanks.

Note this, johnsonn, not a single question answered and you've reverted to threats again.
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Looks like someone is pissed about their scam has been exposed  Grin
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Stop that
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ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!!!

Bit_stacker is CHRIS JOHNSON.
He is from AUSTRALIA.
His Email: [email protected]
His Paypal Email: [email protected]


Take Note.
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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
To: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 6:53 AM

Hello Chris,

We are Located at Illinois Usa. Our service is online and we are very well registered. Only an artony or court of Law will request for our details and we shall give it out. You have caused us damages with our email being public and we shall never give out any info to you. $350 storage fee will never kill you. Its only that, that will make your coins to be out. Thanks.


My first thought was, 'I wonder if I can just pose as an attorney the same way they posed as a 'Criminal Jurisdiction Dept Interpool of New Jersey Usa' staff member?' https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9678547

But I can do better than that.  I'd sooner give $350 to a lawyer to f*ck with this idiot than give him any further satisfaction.
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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
To: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 5:53 PM

You purport to operate a legitimate exchange business within the US of
A. What state or states are you licenced in to do that? What is your
registered business name?
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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
To: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 11:17 PM

Hello Chris,

We dont know what Bitcoin is but be assured that we do not remove
anything from anyone money. Rmember we have always been communicative
to you and the issue here is only 350 usd of cold storage which we
also accepted you should pay half of it but you declined.

We have never gone back on our word rather you will say circumstances
had a tole on us. Everyone will be suprised that you will get your btc
once the cold storage money is paid. We cant dent our image and name
because of your amount of money.

We have exchanged more than that amount for many clients and no
problem has occured and no one has said we have scammed him.

Your only being pushed by people telling you we are bad but we advice
you please dont listen to them.

Thanks.
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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
To: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 2:35 PM

Hello,

Thanks so much.
We have no alliance and we shall never have.

We want to stand by our word. When your ready let me know.

Thanks.

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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
To: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 9:16 PM

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> We want to stand by our word. When your ready let me know.

I've been ready for you to stand by your word for months, since you
first promised to pay me 2 bitcoin, then 5 and then 10. All you have
done in this time is tell lies, make excuses and steal from me. Every
step along the way, you have reneged on a done deal. You have done the
exact opposite of standing by your word. You pretend that you can't
simply pay me a fractional amount of bitcoin, that you can't refund my
paypal and that "cold storage" of bitcoin is costly. Do you even know
what bitcoin is?
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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
To: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 1:33 PM

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> ...
> if you do not pay we shall be forced to pull it out of storage and give the funds to charity

I do not consent to my money being given away, nor do I consent to you continuing to "hold it for ransom".
 
The truth is, you've stolen my money. You are a piece of shit criminal, most likely a third world, low life conman whose quality of life has shot through the roof since you ripped me off.
 
Hey, instead of replying to this email, why don't you save me the time and use one of your existing aliases to reply directly in my scam thread on bitcointalk?
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This piece of shit using the alias "Garry Simons" has another blog to be avoided at all costs: http://payypalexchange.blogspot.com/

Searching for [email protected] on google has also allowed me to see a deleted pastebin.com post via the google cache option:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:uaCh2ykTEvMJ:pastebin.com/4tedsMrs+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk
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[email protected] RIPPER
[email protected] SCAMMER
[email protected] MONEYPAK RIPPER
[email protected] MONEYPAK SCAM
[email protected] SCAM
[email protected] FRAUD
Smith Payments SCAMMER FRAUDER RIPPER MONEYPAK

I Sent a moneypak for $200 along with Perfectmoney account. He failed to delivered. Some bullshits text that i was placed in que and I am client 35:)

Hello,

Yes. We have confirmed your Code. I am in charge of Support and have
moved it to the people at the accounts department low order cadre. The
cue there is much but lets see how it goes as they will credit your
account.

Had it been that its just above $500 or $1,000 it will be moved to the
high amount cadre and it wont take time of just 5 to 10mins you will
have it.

In the low amount cadre currently your in Number 36th. But the Cue is moving.


Thank.
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Re: moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone

From: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
To: bit_stacker <###@###.net>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 9:12 PM

Hello Chris,

We have sounded this thousand times we have no account in any forum. We are not impersonating to be anyone. We are not interested in reading what you created. The cold storage we put your btc is costing much and if you do not pay we shall be forced to pull it out of storage and give the funds to charity since you have shared our email in public forum and we have been getting all sorts of damaging emails. Fine for doing this is 150 usd.

Now read this: WE SHALL NEVER EVER SEND 1 BTC OR HALF OR REFUND BACK ANY FUNDS UNTIL YOU PAY FINE OF 150 USD AND THEN THE 350 FOR THE COLD STORAGE. Paypal review which lasted for 10 days caused this.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND POST ANYTHING YOU WISH IN 5,000 FORUMS, OR EVEN IN NATIONAL NEWS PAPERS. We do not care for that. All we know is when your ready to pay the fine and the storage fee we shall attend to you if not stop wasting your time.

Thanks.
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Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: September 22, 2014, 08:42:38 PM »

is mtb people gonna be on break...seems they said something like that to me.... also have you been in contact with them today.....
what of your deal progress.....

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: coinbuyer on: September 22, 2014, 08:58:42 PM »

No, it's been a few days since our last email. I added funds to my paypal account just before the weekend and they take a number of business days to clear so there's nothing I can do until that happens.

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: September 22, 2014, 10:51:19 PM »

Ok then...be sure to pay your balance with them and take your coin its neccessary....again be careful with forum members here....dont do exchange because that person ahve 2 star or 3 or 5 star or an old member...do exchange with forum members with escrow...i kinda saw your post...you just have to be careful...i lost 780 usd in this forum...thats why i dont do deals here...even if I willl then it will be hard and must be notable active member and escrow....be careful... Pls....did mtb tell you about anything on holidays break?....

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: coinbuyer on: September 23, 2014, 01:38:23 AM »

MTB only metioned the end of this month as when they will take a break, I don't know how long it will be.

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: September 26, 2014, 05:27:27 AM »

yeeeeaaa, in 4-6days my cash will be ready.....will be sending them kinda 11,200 usd in neteller funds to grab some much btc....whats up ya order then....?

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: coinbuyer on: September 26, 2014, 10:09:44 PM »

I had difficulties with their ordering process, I missed one of their emails telling me to go ahead with the paypal transaction. After I finally sent my last payment, I had many other things to do so I've only just checked my email again after almost 24 hours.  They're saying paypal is reviewing the payment and I that I should contact paypal.

To be honest, after all the bs I've gone through with them, I'm not surprised.

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: September 26, 2014, 10:30:18 PM »

paypal is kinda one of payment method thats so hard...think you should do as they said...i am sure they gonna send your coins once all is well with your money. just try your best..be good to them..you know they handle many people daily. say something sweet and good to them...

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: coinbuyer on: September 27, 2014, 12:39:16 AM »

I'll forward the attachment from this email as well if you'd like to give me your email address.

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Re: Ukash to EgoPay
From: Smith Payments <[email protected]>
To: Chris Johnson <[email protected]> [Add]
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 3:40 PM (1 hour 56 minutes ago)

Hello Chris,

Attached to this email shows the payment under review. We tried to get
it for you the screenshot so you will see and you will not think we
are making up stories as we never can make up anything because we love
all clients that comes here for business and we love you so much.

Contact them now and give us feedback.

Humble Regards,
MTB Support.
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Re: Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: September 27, 2014, 12:50:36 AM »

i may not need the attachment...gues the mail you forwarded here is kind ok for me to understand...from this they got some prob with your payment...think you should contact paypal to resolve it...or have you done so?

i think find way of using other payment method...paypal suck most times...thats why many avoid them like some plague.

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: coinbuyer on: September 27, 2014, 01:00:31 AM »

Maybe I'm being oversensitive but, from the undertone of their message to me, they are mocking me.

I've contacted paypal to try to confirm if what I've been told is true.

Also, the attachment of the paypal screenshot they sent me is heavily doctored.

I'm not impressed and I think if you're still intent on doing business with them, try a small amount first and build up when you're sure you can trust them. This is what I tried to do by buying 2 bitcoin but they put me up to 5 and then 10. I'm an idiot for believing their excuses for why they couldn't pay me the initial 2 bitcoin.

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: September 27, 2014, 01:07:12 AM »

wooow what i see here is your fault. [email protected] is my email. any company sending an individual screenshot has to hide some things because its their account where many money comes so they can be secured....so why will they mock you? ...........
to see a company who will take paypal and may be try offer you such support always is hard...i have bought 2 coins from them when coins was 700 then when it was around 550 or 600 i got 7 coins...i am waiting for funds to hit my neteller account will deal with them...i told you say good things with good words to them...may be you talked to them in way thats not good...also if you got question ask them..those people are best in support...i never see any company or site support better than them....try to know if what they said about paypal is true....i am sure they cant lie...cool down...your thinking they are bad...while they are not...and this i sense disturbing you so much...which is not supposed ...to be so....

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MTB
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: September 28, 2014, 07:01:04 AM »

Am kinda eager to make sure...your trade wif them go well...because you said my post made you go into business with them....what update with your order now...any problem again tell me i can offer advice.... Also hope you stopped being over sensitive like you said....before....

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Re: MTB
« Sent to: coinbuyer on: September 28, 2014, 10:32:51 PM »

Still nothing from paypal but I only began contact with them on the weekend. It's Monday morning here so if I'm lucky I might get a response later today and then I will know more. MTB suggested they can refund my last payment and I can then try to send it again but I don't understand how they can do that if paypal is reviewing it. Doesn't that mean MTB have no control over that money?

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Re: MTB
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: September 28, 2014, 10:46:05 PM »

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Order Btc   Inbox
Add star  SHADE VENTURES<[email protected]>  
To: [email protected]

Hi mtb team...
I posted your wonderful kinda work in one btc forum.....and one person
said you contact you and paid for two and then now 10 btc...whats
wrong with his order.....i am also getting cash ready for
mine.,..reply soon.. tnx.

--
We Shop, We Ship and We Deliver to Your Door Step With Integrity In Service.

Happy 2011

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Add star  Smith Payments<[email protected]>  
To: SHADE VENTURES <[email protected]>

Hello,

We are Greatly happy to know your telling about our company and the good work we do. Honestly we handle much clients but despite that we still have time to give 100% support service to all of them. Yes One client from AU named Chris made order and his only challenge is Paypal payment which he uses to make payments.

We are waiting for the funds to clear; I mean his last sent funds and when it does We shall begin processing of His order. We welcome you anytime your ready for your order and also thanks again for recommending us to people. Can we have the link of the forum you talked about us?

Humble Regards,
MTB Support.

above mail i gave mtb and they replied me in 2mins...i kinda love their support.... but what i noticed here they surely do have problems with your payment.....think you can call paypal again now since its your morning to remind them of it may be they forgot....so try let me know.....am happy they way they talked and they seem calm and ok....

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: October 10, 2014, 02:33:49 PM »

Yeah news on your transaction progress with mtb ?

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: coinbuyer on: October 10, 2014, 08:24:53 PM »

I got an email a few days ago saying that my payments have all cleared and that they'll send my bitcoin when they're back from their break. I'm not sure when that will be but I'm just going to wait for now.

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: October 11, 2014, 03:52:16 AM »

Wwwwaaaaooooo oh good to hear that your payment has cleard really.

They also told me about their break they said because am old client they can process mine but they will be slow.

I am yet to reply but can you ask them when they will be bac so we know if they gonna....tell us same thing....

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: coinbuyer on: October 11, 2014, 08:08:44 AM »

I made another post in your selling thread. I think you should start over. virtual-exchanger.com seem to think they also paid you. What's up with that?

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: October 11, 2014, 10:40:38 AM »

Is this message for me? I got no recent selling thread@all.

I have some btc from investment i wish to sell. I wana sell dem off nw...so i can add more funds,...and take offer mtb gave me...u mind buying 5-6 btc? ....

What rate can u buy....and hw can u pay me....?

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: coinbuyer on: October 12, 2014, 12:55:57 AM »

My mistake. That message was meant for someone with a slightly similar name. I'm a bit unwell at the moment and I'm not thinking straight.

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: October 12, 2014, 02:31:05 AM »

no, put yourself together. if i may ask whats making you to be sick.
also i got 4btc from investment. its 6 sold 2 it remains 4. you interested to make me an offer?

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be calm
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: October 12, 2014, 11:28:04 PM »

no, put yourself together. if i may ask whats making you to be sick.
also i got 4btc from investment. its 6 sold 2 it remains 4. you interested to make me an offer?

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: October 14, 2014, 03:26:39 PM »

Just sold off the coins.....now getting bulk huge money to buy from mtb offer. You ask mtb yet when they will come back from break?

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: coinbuyer on: October 16, 2014, 04:42:35 AM »

No, I haven't contacted them. I have no control in this situation, all I can do is wait.

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Re: Hi
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: October 16, 2014, 04:45:24 AM »

OK. just wait for them...what am kinda sure is..you gonna have your coins..

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Re: hey
« Sent to: bit_stacker on: November 24, 2014, 04:03:49 PM »

hey-wao long time-was out of country...so how your biz going...how many coins you bought from MTB business ? know you have made so much profit in btc with mtb good rates.

Aside from coinbuyer's posts (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/coinbuyer-357816) in this thread, their account seems to be inactive now. It also seems that litecoinbtc (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/litecoinbtc-396848) is another inactive account controlled by this person / people so look out for anyone using such dodgy tactics and excuses. And such weird, shitty grammar. Where do these arseholes come from?

It was nice of moneypakto-aaand-it's-gone to post in this thread, I should encourage them to reply here rather than email me. It'd sure save a lot of copy&pasting.
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