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sr. member
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July 23, 2014, 12:37:12 PM
#33
torcoin will be amazed few a weeks . bring some or you will regret
hero member
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July 23, 2014, 12:21:30 PM
#32
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TL;DR cryptonote coins (boolberry, monero, bytecoin) are all extremely slow and have bloated blockchains.
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Boolberry uses a different hash algorithm (Wild Keccak), making faster than Classic CryptoNote coins.

Boolberry was designed from the beginning with the bloat issue in mind. The ring signatures can be cut-off, reducing the size by over 55%.

legendary
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July 22, 2014, 10:50:00 AM
#31
Crypto night 1st true anon algorithm not a mixer... ( So XMR BNC... )

Then maybe when someone do zero knowledge protocol online like (zerocoin ) ANC is trying for... half year.

At the and cross chain trading left like with bitshares or in night trader ( under construction ).

Try trade cross chain 2 anon coins to get ultimate anon. Crypto night + Zeroknowlege + p2p protocol as middle man.
( such protocols exits in  bitxbay , bithalo/blackhalo clients you need modify them to use on anon coins...)
legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
July 22, 2014, 08:31:36 AM
#30
heres an excerpt from todays IRC

So if this coin goes to $10 You could make a extra 15 coins a day if you heavy stake some good blocks


Wouldn't these sorts of fees cause undue dilution of the money supply?


hero member
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July 22, 2014, 05:55:42 AM
#29
BitShares




Oh wow...stealthaddresses, thats in no way anonymous alone.
legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
July 22, 2014, 04:53:41 AM
#28
Full disclosure: I'm XC's PR and Media Liaison.

A clear explanation of why XC is the leading anon tech is on Yahoo Finance, Reuters, and CryptoCoinsNews.

In addition, since the above release, we've developed trustless mixing. This is a world-first. Henceforth, if you need to send money (or a message) to someone via a third party, you no longer need to trust the third party. And of course no link between sender and receiver is on the blockchain.



hero member
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July 22, 2014, 01:42:24 AM
#27
BitShares

newbie
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July 22, 2014, 01:24:43 AM
#26
I suggest butt coin
hero member
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July 22, 2014, 12:51:58 AM
#25
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Whatever you say fan boy. The guy asked a question and I delivered. Your Monero coin is a bloated blockchain and nothing more, and there are many cryptonote coins. It's just open source software that developers implement into their coin as easily as tying their shoes. It's a joke that you think its legitimate.

XC also serves as the first blockchain 2.0; where is moneros? Oh thats right its so slow and bloated you would never be able to run a decentralized application on it.

If anything you are the fan boy.

I just stated facts, you spread lies to pump your own coin.

Ofcourse there are many more cryptonote coins, as there are a ton of shitcoins everywhere. Monero so far has the best potential, community and volume, it's by far the number one coin in volume on Poloniex like always and IIRC there were plans to replace the LTC market with a XMR market.

Even after I showed your bitcoin/cryptonote slowness argument is empty you still bring it up, are you thinking for yourself or are you just repeating what you read?

Go troll somewhere else fan boy Wink
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July 22, 2014, 12:37:20 AM
#24
my vote for Monero and ByteCoin
just learn about these coins

I fully agree with you on Monero, Bytecoin however is 82% premined scam so don't think about buying them, also don't listen to the shitload of Bytecoin trolls.

And all the XC fans I see you all came here to pump your coin from your thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/truely-anonymous-altcoins-702511

Someone should jump into this thread. I'm just a bit too intoxicated at this point to let it be me  Cheesy

Everyone can get hundreds of people to post in a thread to pump their coin it's not that hard.

The only truly functioning and anonymous coin is XCurrency; it is coded from the ground up so it also serves as a blockchain 2.0 protocol.

The reason why its the 'only truly functioning' anonymous coin is because ALL cryptonote coins, EVERY single one, suffers from SLOW transactions (over 20 minutes) and blockchain bloat. This renders the chain itself at the same speed as bitcoin, hence the real world will no adopt it.

Stop spreading bullshit, go do that in your own XC thread Smiley

I have no experience with other cryptonote coins than Monero but Monero transactions (same as BTC transactions) are instant, confirmations are 1 minute.

The real world is already accepting bitcoin with it's oh so slow transactions so it's a rather empty argument. Every single thing I've bought with BTC so far got accepted with 0 confirmations. Maybe if you go buy a house or a car with BTC waiting for a couple confirmations is fine and would absolutely not be a problem.

Whatever you say fan boy. The guy asked a question and I delivered. Your Monero coin is a bloated blockchain and nothing more, and there are many cryptonote coins. It's just open source software that developers implement into their coin as easily as tying their shoes. It's a joke that you think its legitimate.

XC also serves as the first blockchain 2.0; where is moneros? Oh thats right its so slow and bloated you would never be able to run a decentralized application on it.
hero member
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July 22, 2014, 12:26:17 AM
#23
my vote for Monero and ByteCoin
just learn about these coins

I fully agree with you on Monero, Bytecoin however is 82% premined scam so don't think about buying them, also don't listen to the shitload of Bytecoin trolls.

And all the XC fans I see you all came here to pump your coin from your thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/truely-anonymous-altcoins-702511

Someone should jump into this thread. I'm just a bit too intoxicated at this point to let it be me  Cheesy

Everyone can get hundreds of people to post in a thread to pump their coin it's not that hard.

The only truly functioning and anonymous coin is XCurrency; it is coded from the ground up so it also serves as a blockchain 2.0 protocol.

The reason why its the 'only truly functioning' anonymous coin is because ALL cryptonote coins, EVERY single one, suffers from SLOW transactions (over 20 minutes) and blockchain bloat. This renders the chain itself at the same speed as bitcoin, hence the real world will no adopt it.

Stop spreading bullshit, go do that in your own XC thread Smiley

I have no experience with other cryptonote coins than Monero but Monero transactions (same as BTC transactions) are instant, confirmations are 1 minute.

The real world is already accepting bitcoin with it's oh so slow transactions so it's a rather empty argument. Every single thing I've bought with BTC so far got accepted with 0 confirmations. Maybe if you go buy a house or a car with BTC waiting for a couple confirmations is fine and would absolutely not be a problem.
legendary
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July 22, 2014, 12:14:56 AM
#22
Hello! Could you give me some truely anonymous altoins? How i can see the favorite is Darkcoin but are there any alternatives? Are they some Technologies of anonymization Overview?

Cloakcoin PoSA is the gold standard for anon coins.
http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/07/17/cloakcoin-promises-holy-grail-cryptocurrency-anonymity/

Completely decentralized. No huge overhead for "master nodes" like Darkcoin.
And soon "One Market" decentralized marketplace where you will spend cloakcoins.

heres an excerpt from todays IRC

The result is what we've described so far:
It looks like transactions using PoSA generate new anonymous addresses for each send and recieve for starters. They aren't normal addresses.
i sees
So your wallet address, when you look it up ont he blockchain - if all you've been doing is PoSA transactions you don't even see your address the network says it has never seen it before
So that's the start
Then it seems to blow the transactions up into dust amounts
nice
thanks for the hard work devs and beta testers
making history =)
And it passes that dust through various stakers wallets
Those stakers act as anonymizes, they don't have the real address for where any of that dust came from or an idea of how much was actually sent
* Alty1 (~alty@unaffiliated/alty) has joined
* ChanServ gives channel operator status to Alty1
That dust could be miners fees or whatever for allt hey know
So it goes around the stakers, being anonymized. Since there are so many stakers it's like every single person is a masternode, which solves a lot fo problems that dark coin has such as coentralized control of nodes
Then all the transactions are slowly passed through the same stakers until they are deposited to again a newly generated anonymous address not associated to anything else on the wallet
Thus niether side of the transaction is able to figure out shit.
And there are extra fees that all stakeing wallets pick up
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so in effect we are all masternodes And collect those extra fees (masternode payments DRK)) By just stakeing
^^
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So if this coin goes to $10 You could make a extra 15 coins a day if you heavy stake some good blocks
* CoinadaINC (d8dd48cc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.221.72.204) has joined
It's pretty ground breaking stuff.
legendary
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July 22, 2014, 12:04:14 AM
#21
Night Trader will put an end to all anon coins forever.

nighttrader.org - Awesome website BTW.
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July 21, 2014, 11:34:50 PM
#20
The only truly functioning and anonymous coin is XCurrency; it is coded from the ground up so it also serves as a blockchain 2.0 protocol.

The reason why its the 'only truly functioning' anonymous coin is because ALL cryptonote coins, EVERY single one, suffers from SLOW transactions (over 20 minutes) and blockchain bloat. This renders the chain itself at the same speed as bitcoin, hence the real world will no adopt it.

XCurrency actually has 100% anonymous transactions through their trustless decentralized nodes with FULLY encrypted transactions speeds of 3-4 minutes.

So the clear choice, in any and every way is XCurrency.

TL;DR cryptonote coins (boolberry, monero, bytecoin) are all extremely slow and have bloated blockchains.

CoinJoin coins (Darkcoin, Vericoin, Supercoin) are all NOT anonymous and you can determine sender and receiver with analysis software that is available to EVERYONE.
sr. member
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July 21, 2014, 11:23:24 PM
#19
my vote for Monero and ByteCoin
just learn about these coins
sr. member
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July 21, 2014, 10:36:28 PM
#18
If anyone of these several currencies are willing to offer a 10 BTC bounty offer for anyone to challenge their anonymity, you would know for sure who's the real deal. Once they accept the challenge, we'll then see who's in for the long term with their ground breaking technology. So far, after considerable research, I've sided with XCurrency due to their immaculate development team.
sr. member
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July 21, 2014, 10:12:59 PM
#17
Big money is pouring into Monero and it's the clear leader.

monero will suffer from crypto note block chain bloat.
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July 21, 2014, 09:51:13 PM
#16


XCurrency.

XC is fully anonymous and avoids many of the problems associated with traditional anon coins.  Each wallet is a node and it's a fully trustless design.  It was designed ground up, and avoids blockchain bloat and trust issues that other coins must deal with.

The biggest positive for XC to me is that the team is working to make the coin available to larger audiences outside of crypto.  They're taking an approach that won't turn off ordinary people, while still offering cutting edge anon tech.

My sig has links to a video and the official website if you'd like to do some research.


legendary
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July 21, 2014, 09:17:26 PM
#15
Monero seems to be where the smart money is in anonymous coins. No premine, instamine, or other silliness. It's very user-unfriendly now, but that lack of user-friendliness is just more upside for those willing to invest now (Investing 101!). I'm considering it myself, but can't find a way to make a cold wallet. May just trust bter.com or other exchange with the coins until I can figure out how to make a cold wallet without messing with the client.

Note, however, that any altcoin is subject to the spin-off technique, which is likely to start happening very soon so make your money in alt-ledgers while you can Wink

^ This.

(though using the client isn't *that* bad... Creating a wallet via simplewallet spits out a pneumonic that you can use a paper-wallet (though I'd test it first!))

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