Topic: Trump first action as a president: attack abortion right - page 5. (Read 7186 times)

That is to stop the crazy terrorists from the middle east, I think that is one of the best spent tax money out of the entire budget. Besides I like Israel, it's the only civilized part of the middle east, the rest of it is filled with middle age barbarism and violance.

Most tax money is usually spent on crazy things like:  huge pensions and bonuses for bureaucrats, wealth redistribution schemes, and the rest of it.

I would like to see a cut on spending of 90%, that would free up some capital that has been kept locked for some time.




Businesses can sell between eachother, and you still consume as a person beyond your business. It would be a much better world if everyone were a businessperson, and would trade between themselves.

If you cant think of a business idea, you just sell yourself as a private contractor for a business. It's that simple.

Everyone would have an income, and we dont need this basic income communist bullshit, that I have been seeing on this forum from quite some time now.


This Resource Based Economy Communist nightmare 

Cut the costs. There are too many useless things the tax money is spent on.

According to the report, the United States gave Israel $3.1 billion for Fiscal Year 2016 in direct bilateral military aid (also referred to as Foreign Military Financing or FMF). Congress also gave $487.6 million to "joint" U.S.-Israel missile defense programs (designed to protect Israeli territory from potential outside threats), bringing total military aid to Israel to $3.6 billion per year.

Put another way, American taxpayers give Israel $9.8 million per day (in 2016).

If everyone has a business then who are the masses to sell too?..
Millions upon millions will also sell the same as you in your own country..

Now to invent something then sell it is another argument?..It's very hard to invent something..
Because if it was so easy we would all be inventors..Yes we would.

Because most people do try to think of something to invent so we can become RICH..
To invent something everyone wants is one thing HUMANS do try to do?..
But many fail..

But that's life so do we just kill the rest who cannot think of a business?..

Also does MONKEY BUSINESS COUNT?..It is a business?..

I quote because if I dont they dont get notified of the reply, if they have that enabled in the forum settings.



3. You get out more than you pay in, which means it's a deficit system

4. You have to have new workers joining the labor force to pay out the old guys who have higher and higher life expectancy, which means it's a ponzi scheme

5. There isn't actually any funds in the pension fund, it's not like it's a segregated fund that is managed by a fund manager. It's just a tax that you pay in, which money goes into the treasury of the government, and the money they pay out gets paid directly from taxes. (It's just another excuse to pay people.)

6. For every 1$ paid into the "pension fund", a pensioner might only get 0.5$ worth of pensions, because there is an overhead cost, to pay out bureaucrats and so on.



In short, it's a disaster, and it will collapse society with it. It's unpayable, and it distorts the economy heavily.

I suppose you understand my arguments, because not everyone in this forum is capable of understanding rational arguments.

99% of people here are just too emotional, or arguing from emotions, instead of looking at the cold hard facts.

First of all you don't have to quote last post every time you write something. It's obvious that a post without quotes is referring to the one above it.

I agree that the pension system is stupid, mainly because of 2 reasons:
1. It's involuntary, so the money for your pension is deducted from your wage whether you want it or not. This is against the principles of democracy, because you should have the right to decide whether you want to receive pension or not.
2. If you die young the money you've paid on your pension are lost.

First of all it's still better than to legalize abortion, as pointed out above (a new human can work in 16 years, while a pensioner has to be taken care of of 30+ years)


Secondly, pensioners take out 3-4x more from the pension system, than they have put in. I have seen people go to pension at 50, while only working for 15 years, how do you put that?

Pension system should be eliminated in my opinion, and old people should be taken care of by their family, who would get a huge tax deduction without having to pay pension tax, and actually afford to do so.

You can't take away the pensions. This is a very insane idea. The pensioners have paid taxes to the treasury for many decades, and it enabled the government to undertake various welfare and infrastructure projects.

Create more companies, why are there only 5 in the first place?







Cut the costs. There are too many useless things the tax money is spent on.



Yes it's called having a business. Everyone should start up a business, and then everyone would have a job.

that is what is destroying the economy.NOPE..

It's the fact that the few end up with the money..
A government puts 1 billion on the market..Then by the time everyone as payed there bills to the few.
I.E
gas company..
Electric company..
landlords..
travel company cars and so on..
And the tax man from your wages..

5 people I.E COMPANIES have zapped 70% of my money..

So 70% of all that billion put out by the government as ended up in 5 companies hands..

Now because 70% of all the money is back in 5 persons company bank accounts ?..

The government needs 1 billion to keep the economy running so needs to borrow money to replace the 70%
back..
So as time goes on the few keep getting the money and keep putting our future children in debt..
Like a 1 dollar burger costing 5 dollars and your child's wages haven't gone up to compensate for the rise of the burger..To pay the debt back..A home 20 years ago cost 50k now can cost 1 million..
so as time goes on the few get it all then one day the many wont work for what things cost..
Then the economy collapses ..Even the rich will loose all there money..
But if your clever you buy land and gold and what not..

But how many people do you know who can afford to just go and buy land when ever they feel like..

We need a universal income for all rich and poor..No questions asked..

But leave the children alone. i could imagine that's exactly what will happen with no abortion..
Especially in america..

You leave them alone that much you do nothing..

Maybe you need to privatize some govenrment land that is just sitting empty, without being cultivated.

There would be a lot of unemployed people who would not mind some farmwork, if they had a job there.

Fucking regulations, that is what is destroying the economy.

Dont fucking blame it on innocent children, your own leftist bullshit that your ancestors left to them is what the problem is.


I'd rather cut the fucking pensions from them, that's what they deserve. But leave the children alone.

old farts..Something you have yet to experience.. Sounds like you have already become one..

Don't stick your dick in a bee's nest.

If you cant afford to fuck, then dont fuck.


But quite frankly raising a baby is easier than sustaining old farts. A baby is able to work in 16 years, while a fart goes to pension at 60 and lives until 90.

So its easier to pay for a kid 16 years than for an old fart 30 years.

And the population growth is already slowing down due to the use of condoms, and lack of desire for a family in a free choice world.

Because of family planning..They wont have free choice if no abortion ..
They be tied down to the baby with no money..Then your not free..

Stop talking through ones butt..

I think that to attack aborption like is a good thing, indeed I suppose that every women take absorption if they want because it's their bodies. 

We could if we had free energy..
LED lights Or HPS growing food all year day and night..In tower blocks ..
Floors upon floors of food..

Also with free energy we could burn all the rubbish and split all the carbons and separate them and use them to make other products..

WIN WIN

Where are you going to accommodate all these 1 trillion people? And I really suspect that we don't have enough farmland to feed this much people. Even now, almost all of the arable land in the world is under cultivation. And yet, we struggle to feed 7 billion people. Imagine what will happen when the population hits 1 trillion.

Bullshit to you my friend?..
Just go and empty your rubbish in the garden and see how much you gather in 1 year..
Then think all that rubbish needs dumping..
Then the bleach and chemicals that get dumped in the sea..
Then the roads with cars on will be over run ..

THE PLANET IS OVER POPULATED..You are not looking at the big picture..

Bulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllshit.

You talk like some evil person that wants to destroy humanity.

No the planet is not overpopulated, not at all, according to some estimates, the planet can easily sustain 1 trillion humans.

And the population growth is already slowing down due to the use of condoms, and lack of desire for a family in a free choice world.

Besides how the fuck are you going to pay for old people's pensions (who are now living until 90, not 60 like it used to be 50 years ago) if you dont have new kids in the world?

Days after the Women's March on Washington, the Trump administration and Republicans in Congress launched attacks on public funding for women's health care.

On Monday, President Trump reinstated the global gag rule, which strips all US funding from foreign aid groups that counsel patients on abortion. Rather than decrease abortion rates, the move is likely to increase them, devastate the global health system in the process, and leave millions of women across the globe without access to either safe abortion or contraception.

And on Tuesday afternoon, House Republicans voted 238-183 to permanently ban US women, too, from receiving any federal financial assistance for abortion — whether they are insured through public programs like Medicaid or if they purchase private health insurance on the Affordable Care Act exchanges.

So the poor will not be able to get an abortion?..
When it's the poor who need the money to get an abortion..

So enjoy your crazy country because it's about to explode with unwanted children with GUNS..

Trump still better than Clinton..

But he is BIGLY WRONG on the abortion subject..
But we will soon see who was right..

Just think you will be adding more of this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYDHa31HiaQ
14 Aug 2016

ENJOY YOUR COUNTRY USA..

OH do you want to bet it will happen if no abortion for the poor..

The blacks will wipe the whites out and then the Latin american and blacks will fight it out to see who owns AMERICA..

You don't see it happening I DO..Not saying 100% it will happen BUT a very good chance it will..

No abortion then your in shit street..

1st act as Pres was to repeal Obamacare... watched it live.
btw...
Did you miss the part where Trump is Pro-Life?  Where do people get this crap?