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Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 31, 2020, 07:45:48 PM

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https://wpcdn.zenger.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/24190822/2020-12-23-Sidney-Powell-Team-Binder-ZENGER-NEWS.pdf

Trump is going to capture all of the people such as politicians and celebrities and banking industries because they gonna get screwed for pedo stuff. Just wait. It's coming.

It's time to wake up to the reality that we perceive.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5b67dbea25bf02623f27bbec/t/5c3eb767032be46f5acb7297/1547614136130/GreatAwakeningMap_11x14_V10_Lotus_Hi-Res.jpg

That's a really cool poster. It's massive, here's a tiny part of it:

https://i.gyazo.com/0589023d6145aacb14b0ba0ffe9b9dc0.png

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CHEMTRAILS? NAZIS? ESCAPE? HITLER?

What the fuck are these people smoking because I would really love to smoke some of it. Seems to really bring you into a beautiful fantasy world that can help you believe anything and everything that your brain wants you to. Logic doesn’t matter.

Take everything with a grain of salt. Chem trails are real though

http://www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/what-is-geoengineering/what-is-geoengineering/

Stratospheric aerosols. Introducing small, reflective particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect some sunlight before it reaches the surface of the Earth.

What's up with using a mirror of the actual oxford site? I'm just curious, is there a reason you don't want to link this: https://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/geoengineering/ ?

Don't see anything about chemtrails from Oxford, Harvard does though https://keith.seas.harvard.edu/chemtrails-conspiracy-theory

The Author leads the solar geoengineering program and is Professor of Applied Physics at Harvard’s School of Engineering and Applied Sciences and Professor of Public Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School.

Not sure but i pulled that from google.

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Quote from: FEELEPIC on December 31, 2020, 05:59:55 PM

Quote from: squatz1 on December 31, 2020, 02:00:32 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 30, 2020, 02:47:08 AM

Quote from: FEELEPIC on December 28, 2020, 07:17:36 AM

https://wpcdn.zenger.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/24190822/2020-12-23-Sidney-Powell-Team-Binder-ZENGER-NEWS.pdf

Trump is going to capture all of the people such as politicians and celebrities and banking industries because they gonna get screwed for pedo stuff. Just wait. It's coming.

It's time to wake up to the reality that we perceive.

That's a really cool poster. It's massive, here's a tiny part of it:

LOL

CHEMTRAILS? NAZIS? ESCAPE? HITLER?

What the fuck are these people smoking because I would really love to smoke some of it. Seems to really bring you into a beautiful fantasy world that can help you believe anything and everything that your brain wants you to. Logic doesn’t matter.

Take everything with a grain of salt. Chem trails are real though

http://www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/what-is-geoengineering/what-is-geoengineering/

Stratospheric aerosols. Introducing small, reflective particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect some sunlight before it reaches the surface of the Earth.

What's up with using a mirror of the actual oxford site? I'm just curious, is there a reason you don't want to link this: https://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/geoengineering/ ?

Don't see anything about chemtrails from Oxford, Harvard does though https://keith.seas.harvard.edu/chemtrails-conspiracy-theory

The Author leads the solar geoengineering program and is Professor of Applied Physics at Harvard’s School of Engineering and Applied Sciences and Professor of Public Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School.

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^^^ I ran out of salt long ago. So I don't accept anything any more.

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Quote from: squatz1 on December 31, 2020, 02:00:32 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 30, 2020, 02:47:08 AM

Quote from: FEELEPIC on December 28, 2020, 07:17:36 AM

https://wpcdn.zenger.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/24190822/2020-12-23-Sidney-Powell-Team-Binder-ZENGER-NEWS.pdf

Trump is going to capture all of the people such as politicians and celebrities and banking industries because they gonna get screwed for pedo stuff. Just wait. It's coming.

It's time to wake up to the reality that we perceive.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5b67dbea25bf02623f27bbec/t/5c3eb767032be46f5acb7297/1547614136130/GreatAwakeningMap_11x14_V10_Lotus_Hi-Res.jpg

That's a really cool poster. It's massive, here's a tiny part of it:

https://i.gyazo.com/0589023d6145aacb14b0ba0ffe9b9dc0.png

LOL

CHEMTRAILS? NAZIS? ESCAPE? HITLER?

What the fuck are these people smoking because I would really love to smoke some of it. Seems to really bring you into a beautiful fantasy world that can help you believe anything and everything that your brain wants you to. Logic doesn’t matter.

Take everything with a grain of salt. Chem trails are real though

http://www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/what-is-geoengineering/what-is-geoengineering/

Stratospheric aerosols. Introducing small, reflective particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect some sunlight before it reaches the surface of the Earth.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 30, 2020, 02:47:08 AM

Quote from: FEELEPIC on December 28, 2020, 07:17:36 AM

https://wpcdn.zenger.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/24190822/2020-12-23-Sidney-Powell-Team-Binder-ZENGER-NEWS.pdf

Trump is going to capture all of the people such as politicians and celebrities and banking industries because they gonna get screwed for pedo stuff. Just wait. It's coming.

It's time to wake up to the reality that we perceive.

That's a really cool poster. It's massive, here's a tiny part of it:

LOL

CHEMTRAILS? NAZIS? ESCAPE? HITLER?

What the fuck are these people smoking because I would really love to smoke some of it. Seems to really bring you into a beautiful fantasy world that can help you believe anything and everything that your brain wants you to. Logic doesn’t matter.

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Quote from: FEELEPIC on December 28, 2020, 07:17:36 AM

https://wpcdn.zenger.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/24190822/2020-12-23-Sidney-Powell-Team-Binder-ZENGER-NEWS.pdf

Trump is going to capture all of the people such as politicians and celebrities and banking industries because they gonna get screwed for pedo stuff. Just wait. It's coming.

It's time to wake up to the reality that we perceive.

That's a really cool poster. It's massive, here's a tiny part of it:

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https://wpcdn.zenger.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/24190822/2020-12-23-Sidney-Powell-Team-Binder-ZENGER-NEWS.pdf

Trump is going to capture all of the people such as politicians and celebrities and banking industries because they gonna get screwed for pedo stuff. Just wait. It's coming.

It's time to wake up to the reality that we perceive.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5b67dbea25bf02623f27bbec/t/5c3eb767032be46f5acb7297/1547614136130/GreatAwakeningMap_11x14_V10_Lotus_Hi-Res.jpg

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Watch the video at the site. It's probably not on Youtube. If it were, it might have been deleted by now, and nobody would see it.

Exclusive: Gen. Michael Flynn—Will the American Republic Survive? Epoch Times

Quote from: https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/2020/12/27/exclusive-gen-michael-flynn-will-the-american-republic-survive-epoch-times/

Socialist and communist ideology has crept into American culture and education. At the same time, America is threatened by foreign adversaries, with China’s Communist Party being the greatest opponent of all. In this exclusive interview with Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, we sit down to discuss this watershed moment in America’s history, and what he believes the future holds. Will this great American experiment into republican governance survive or will it fail? This is American Thought Leaders [USA], and I’m Jan Jekielek.

EDIT: Okay, okay. It's on Youtube.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 17, 2020, 02:12:36 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on December 17, 2020, 01:33:13 AM

I still don't buy how Biden could score 80 million votes and managed to flip states in a very narrow margin. However, I don't live in the US to feel if the hate for Trump is so overwhelming to make this phenomenon happen.

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 by millions also, and most of the states Biden flipped were flipped by Trump in 2016 by narrow margins. But yeah, the hate for Trump is overwhelming. If you don't agree with him he doesn't give a shit about you and he makes that clear.

Just as a fair point here, there are a TON OF PEOPLE in the US -- around 40% of Americans, who have a cult like love for Donald Trump. Not to take away from the cult like hate of Donald Trump, but I just thought that was an interesting point.

Obviously all of those 40% are Republicans, but still just an interesting point to bring to the table.

But yes, all of the states that Joe Biden 'crazily flipped' were states that were solid blue for some time and only Trump had been able to flip them in 2016 with a promise to bring manufacturing back to these hard hit states. (Ex: Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc)

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 17, 2020, 01:33:13 AM

I still don't buy how Biden could score 80 million votes and managed to flip states in a very narrow margin. However, I don't live in the US to feel if the hate for Trump is so overwhelming to make this phenomenon happen.

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 by millions also, and most of the states Biden flipped were flipped by Trump in 2016 by narrow margins. But yeah, the hate for Trump is overwhelming. If you don't agree with him he doesn't give a shit about you and he makes that clear.

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I still don't buy how Biden could score 80 million votes and managed to flip states in a very narrow margin. However, I don't live in the US to feel if the hate for Trump is so overwhelming to make this phenomenon happen.

Meanwhile, the Indonesian regional elections were successfully held despite Covid*.

*Lot's of officials got infected lol, that's the price for a democracy Cool

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Quote from: squatz1 on December 17, 2020, 12:35:48 AM

Quote from: Gyfts on December 17, 2020, 12:07:53 AM

~SNIP~

Here are some more polling outlets talking about all of this

Politico - https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/09/republicans-free-fair-elections-435488 - 70% of Republicans think the election wasn't free/fair, 78% beleive there was fraud from the mail in ballots,.

NY Times has an interesting spin on things, as partisanship cause people to think that there's no way their candidate could lose without fraud. They go the angle of seeing how many Republicans actually believe these claims - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/30/upshot/republican-voters-election-doubts.html

I like the NY Times way of this, as many said the same thing in 2016 in regards to actual fraud when it comes to ballots (which the Russians never did), and probably in 2012 and 2008 as well.

nice take, but those partisans especially the rights there say, don't like news like this that gives sounded opinions regarding the issue. Someone even accused NY Times like you mentioned to be racist in every post they made, but the link you provide, doesn't even have the slight hint of racism in it.

the Idea of idolizing someone from political parties never really suits me well. Political leaders must be supported but never be idolized, he is the one who leads and represent the country, so especially in a democratic country, the leader must act accordingly.

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Quote from: Gyfts on December 17, 2020, 12:07:53 AM

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Trump tweeted that 92% of Republicans think the election was rigged...

Depending on the definition of "rigged", he might be right. If you include media bias/interference a part of the word rigged, the number sounds believable.

I think a better polling question would be something related to the amount of voter fraud. Something like - "Do you believe there was enough voter fraud present to overturn the election results". The percentage would probably drop considerably.

Lot of Republicans doubt the fairness of the election, this poll is saying somewhere in the realm of 60-70% of them, though these same Republicans who were polled do still think (a majority of them at least) that Joe Biden won the Presidency.

Ton of Republicans think that vote counts / mail in ballots caused fraud too, this poll is saying above 80% of them think that.

So yes, Republicans think the election was rigged. Doesn't change if it was or not. I like your question though, that's a good one.

https://news.northeastern.edu/2020/12/11/who-won-the-2020-presidential-election-joe-biden-or-donald-trump-depends-whom-you-ask/

Interesting source. It mentions that a survey found over 50 percent of Republicans believe that Trump actually won.

I'm not sure if there's a twist to this. You can't misinterpret "winning" an election, there's no ambiguity. Hope there's not that many delusional Republicans.

Here are some more polling outlets talking about all of this

Politico - https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/09/republicans-free-fair-elections-435488 - 70% of Republicans think the election wasn't free/fair, 78% beleive there was fraud from the mail in ballots,.

NY Times has an interesting spin on things, as partisanship cause people to think that there's no way their candidate could lose without fraud. They go the angle of seeing how many Republicans actually believe these claims - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/30/upshot/republican-voters-election-doubts.html

I like the NY Times way of this, as many said the same thing in 2016 in regards to actual fraud when it comes to ballots (which the Russians never did), and probably in 2012 and 2008 as well.

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Quote from: squatz1 on December 16, 2020, 11:44:44 PM

Quote from: Gyfts on December 16, 2020, 01:32:09 AM

Trump tweeted that 92% of Republicans think the election was rigged...

Depending on the definition of "rigged", he might be right. If you include media bias/interference a part of the word rigged, the number sounds believable.

I think a better polling question would be something related to the amount of voter fraud. Something like - "Do you believe there was enough voter fraud present to overturn the election results". The percentage would probably drop considerably.

Lot of Republicans doubt the fairness of the election, this poll is saying somewhere in the realm of 60-70% of them, though these same Republicans who were polled do still think (a majority of them at least) that Joe Biden won the Presidency.

Ton of Republicans think that vote counts / mail in ballots caused fraud too, this poll is saying above 80% of them think that.

So yes, Republicans think the election was rigged. Doesn't change if it was or not. I like your question though, that's a good one.

https://news.northeastern.edu/2020/12/11/who-won-the-2020-presidential-election-joe-biden-or-donald-trump-depends-whom-you-ask/

Interesting source. It mentions that a survey found over 50 percent of Republicans believe that Trump actually won.

I'm not sure if there's a twist to this. You can't misinterpret "winning" an election, there's no ambiguity. Hope there's not that many delusional Republicans.

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Quote from: Gyfts on December 16, 2020, 01:32:09 AM

Trump tweeted that 92% of Republicans think the election was rigged...

Depending on the definition of "rigged", he might be right. If you include media bias/interference a part of the word rigged, the number sounds believable.

I think a better polling question would be something related to the amount of voter fraud. Something like - "Do you believe there was enough voter fraud present to overturn the election results". The percentage would probably drop considerably.

Lot of Republicans doubt the fairness of the election, this poll is saying somewhere in the realm of 60-70% of them, though these same Republicans who were polled do still think (a majority of them at least) that Joe Biden won the Presidency.

Ton of Republicans think that vote counts / mail in ballots caused fraud too, this poll is saying above 80% of them think that.

So yes, Republicans think the election was rigged. Doesn't change if it was or not. I like your question though, that's a good one.

https://news.northeastern.edu/2020/12/11/who-won-the-2020-presidential-election-joe-biden-or-donald-trump-depends-whom-you-ask/

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Trump tweeted that 92% of Republicans think the election was rigged...

Depending on the definition of "rigged", he might be right. If you include media bias/interference a part of the word rigged, the number sounds believable.

I think a better polling question would be something related to the amount of voter fraud. Something like - "Do you believe there was enough voter fraud present to overturn the election results". The percentage would probably drop considerably.

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Quote from: Spendulus on November 20, 2020, 09:55:22 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 20, 2020, 07:57:28 PM

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If suddenly I was at the center of a qanon level crazy conspiracy and millions of delusional Trump followers were convinced I was helping Hugo Chavez make America Communist by changing millions of votes...I wouldn't be making any public appearances for a while either. No matter what I said or did or proved, if it's critical of Trump - it's bias fake news, witch hunt, etc. If it's critical of Trumps enemies, it's 100% true and oh so obvious.

Odd how it's the same people that were pushing the Russian Collusion Conspiracy theory on Election Interference for several years are now ...

Wait, that' you!

But there was merit to the Russian stuff. The info relating to Russia buying ads and sowing disinformation online to get people to be divided is something that did happen, and there is evidence to support it. Multiple people charged.

Did Donald Trump collude? No. There's no evidence to support that. But did the Russians sow disinformation and try to divide Americans from one another? Yes. That was the goal and that is what happened.

What's the goal here Spendulus?

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Judge Orders Release Of Dominion Voting Machine Report Saying Machines INTENTIONALLY FLIPPING VOTES

Judge Orders Release Of Dominion Voting Machine Report Saying Machines INTENTIONALLY FLIPPING VOTES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqyfCRkayRs

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 20, 2020, 07:57:28 PM

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If suddenly I was at the center of a qanon level crazy conspiracy and millions of delusional Trump followers were convinced I was helping Hugo Chavez make America Communist by changing millions of votes...I wouldn't be making any public appearances for a while either. No matter what I said or did or proved, if it's critical of Trump - it's bias fake news, witch hunt, etc. If it's critical of Trumps enemies, it's 100% true and oh so obvious.

Odd how it's the same people that were pushing the Russian Collusion Conspiracy theory on Election Interference for several years are now ...

Wait, that' you!

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Quote from: Spendulus on November 20, 2020, 03:17:42 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 20, 2020, 07:33:46 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on November 20, 2020, 01:26:37 AM

2012:
Obama: 65,915,795
Romney: 60,933,504
Total: 126,849,299

2016:
Trump: 62,984,828
Hillary: 65,853,514
Total: 128,838,342

2020:
Trump: 73,698,667
Biden: 79,683,304
Total: 153,381,971

*data from Wikipedia

Try to look at the total number of votes as it has abnormal growth in 2016 -> 2020. Based on this reason alone, if Trump's score is legitimate, he won by a landslide.

It's true. If we subtract 14 million votes from Biden, and subtract zero votes for Trump, Trump won in a landslide. lol.

Wait...you mean the Biden voters were supposed to only vote once?

https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/20/dominion-voting-systems-lawyers-up-abruptly-backs-out-of-pa-state-house-fact-finding-hearing/

Dominion Voting Systems ‘Lawyers Up,’ Abruptly Backs Out of PA State House Fact-Finding Hearing

By Debra Heine

November 20, 2020
Dominion Voting Systems Thursday night abruptly backed out of attending a fact-finding hearing that was set for Friday morning with the Pennsylvania House State Government Committee.

At a press conference Friday morning, State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”

Pennsylvania lawmakers had scheduled the hearing with the voting machine manufacturer “to help identify and correct any irregularities in the election process,” according to the House Republican Caucus.

If suddenly I was at the center of a qanon level crazy conspiracy and millions of delusional Trump followers were convinced I was helping Hugo Chavez make America Communist by changing millions of votes...I wouldn't be making any public appearances for a while either. No matter what I said or did or proved, if it's critical of Trump - it's bias fake news, witch hunt, etc. If it's critical of Trumps enemies, it's 100% true and oh so obvious.

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