Topic: Trump vs. Biden is almost like Bitcoin vs Fiat (Read 979 times)

Unless otherwise please, for the safety of feeling neglected after expecting too much, DON'T TRUST POLITICIANS. it's better to follow their propagandas and see the outcome of it than trusting their words.

Trump already condemned and made everything obvious that he was not in support, then he suddenly changed his mind when he knew alot of investors were off their couch to evict him off the position. Whatever it is, I believe Bitcoin deserves a good return at the end.
This is it... "They'll always swirl to positions where the wind is stronger "

I think all this is just for votes and Trump is saying these things so that he can be stronger than Biden in the campaign. In any case, if Trump is really interested in digital currencies and wins this election, many US policies will change and this will be beneficial for the digital currency community.

Despite a rotten compromise, at least the Biden administration moved their asses to finally let Assange go. Damn that guy looks wrecked like hell. As if any prison sentence would have made the slightest sense after the martyrdom he has been through. Insane story.

I think Biden ignored the Ulbricht topic so far, but Trump made a move as he is essentially blackmailing people into voting for him He says he wants to pardon Ulbricht and do the libertarians a favor if they vote for him. That's essentially what he implicitly says. I have followed the case and it is brutal, since the allegations that he was said to have tried to hire a contracting killer couldn't be proven and the trial was scrapped in 2018 I think.



Yes both are indeed not suitable. Apart from the incompetency, age is insane and even Trump has had memory issues recently. It's gonna be some "exciting" few months until the end of the year.

We all know Donald Trump likes the USD more than BTC. His past comments tells us that. The main reason why he changed his views about BTC (and crypto) was to gather the favor of crypto supporters. He wants to present himself as the opposite of sitting President Joe Biden. If Trump was against Bitcoin, he would be no different than "Sleepy Joe". Would he?

For all I know, Bitcoin doesn't need the approval of politicians to survive. It will carry on as usual with or without Trump's support. We can thank Bitcoin's decentralized design for this. If one country rejects BTC, another country will embrace it with open arms. The clock is ticking fast, so the US better gets its act straight before it's left behind in the dust.

As I said, I do not support Trump just because he promised to support cryptocurrencies if elected, the words of politicians have nothing for us to trust. Don't forget that when he was president in the 2016-2020 term, he also declared no interest in cryptocurrencies, although many years have passed and his views may have changed. But the election is approaching and both are just trying to achieve their goals, so what they say is not trustworthy.

If you want to support Trump just because he said he would support cryptocurrencies, it's too early for you to make a final decision. As a news report I just read, Biden's re-election team is discussing accepting cryptocurrency donations. That means they will also be making crypto-related promises in the near future.
https://www.theblock.co/post/299851/biden-campaign-in-talks-to-accept-crypto-donations-through-coinbase-commerce-sources

Exactly. And that's the flaw with democracy. Majority of the population are easily fooled by pretty words and vote for the one saying them. Then they forget those promises very easily as well! Today nobody really remembers what promises Trump gave in 2016 and how many of them he had broken by 2021.
This is also why people in Argentina are experiencing 270% inflation.

Technically Federal Crimes can be pardoned by the president without needing anyone else. For example Biden as the president in office can pardon Ulbricht who is someone convicted of Federal Crimes.
However, it is unprecedented for a US president in office to be convicted of such crimes himself to be needing a pardon from himself! So it's like a special case that the legal experts have to discuss when the time comes! AFAICT the law allows it.

It's unpredictable.
On paper neither of them should even run for presidency because neither are suitable. Both of them are extremely old and incompetent.

So when the choice is between bad and worse you gotta see who is worse, and Biden as the president in office has been messing things up a lot and Trump as someone who hasn't been in office (in past 4 years) can criticize it easily saying he'll do better while people don't even remember the mess he left America with 4 years ago when he left office
 
For example one major thing is the two large conflicts (in Ukraine and Palestine) that has also affected US economy. Biden has been performing terribly there which is what Trump is using very well in his own favor. He simply lies to people that if he wins he'll end them quickly. Obviously the weary people who see Biden's failure, begin preferring that lie!!
It's unpredictable because although some are speculating that things could end in summer but for now the conflict is expanding (eg. Zionists are planning to attack Lebanon, and Russia just placed its nukes close to US mainland in Cuba).

I couldn't agree with you more m8! Where exactly did you place this bet btw? I need to make a hefty bet on Trump. At this point if Biden wins its pretty evident that the democrats cheated their socks off and their pants are on fire. America has never been more disgraced & embarrassed since Biden became president. When Trump was the President democrats said the same thing about him but at least Trump has a sharp mind and is business smart. Biden is a completely incompetent old man who bold face lies about everything. He can't make it up the stairs on his own without tripping or even form complete sentences half of the time. The man clearly has Alzheimer's & he is completely protected by our bought out media that fails to report on any of his hiccups, his own son's crimes, but more importantly his own crimes against our country. He has committed treason while at the same time trying to jail his own opponent when he is the very one who should be placed behind bars for selling out America for his families own personal gain. Its a disgrace, its an outrage & a scandal! If this continues on for much longer I wouldn't be surprised to see America at the end of its rope & in shambles or seeing the largest uprising since the revolutionary war. That sounds like a lot and maybe a little overwhelming or even a bit exaggerated but there is a lot on the line here. So much is at stake & I think American's are starting to lose their patience with this administration all while we are the laughing stock of the world.

We can see who of the two supports cryptocurrency or Bitcoin more, and that is none other than Trump, not Biden. Biden only supported Bitcoin because there would be an election and his term would end.

So if it's just for me, even if I'm not a resident of the US, I'll vote for Trump because I saw how he supported the field of bitcoin and cryptocurrency, to be honest., and I hope he wins this time without fraud happening.

Trump have good political PR since they know how to tackle certain situation that they can use for their campaign and give good impression to people especially if the old leader is doing something outrageous decision on his term. They see that getting to much into trouble regarding on their crypto policies is giving Biden a bad image and that is what Trumps camp taking advantage on. That's why we can't really trust him regarding on his statement since we know campaign period is ongoing so as being said they would use all their cards to get some votes that's why people need to take precuation on politicians promises since all of them are liars.

I think its to late for Biden to release some good statement that they would became a crypto friendly if they retain their set since people already know them and what interest they are pushing. If Trump will win then let see if he will hold into his promises since if he ignore what he say when campaign period is on then I guess people have power to eliminate him on the set and find better person who can lead their country into real progress.

This crypto thing is at a crossroads, folks, and its really obvious where we need to go. Watch Trump; he understands. Talking to the major players, the global Elon Musks, is he. He's all about letting people control their own money, their own digital assets. That is enormous! That is how, not some other nation, America becomes the leader in this.

President Biden? He is, perhaps, being a touch too cautious. That veto of his, though. Innovators wont exactly get a lot of praise for this. He's dragging us down with his one foot in the old finance world. That cant happen.

Let me tell you, this isnt just about bitcoin or ethereum or whatever new coin comes out tomorrow. Its about freedom. Giving each person an opportunity to become financially independent is the goal. It also concerns maintaining America's top position. Let us therefore choose wisely.

This is what I was just recently asked and I wasn't sure whether he could pardon himself. Can he literally do that or would he need some kind of majority vote from anyone, the congress I guess? Can he just take pen and paper and free himself of any convictions and sentences? It's absurd.

What's your guess, will he win it? Or is this rather a 50/50 unpredictable thing? I have this feeling that this guy has some aces of all sorts up his sleeves.

We can not trust Trump but his change in strategic approach for his campaign before the President Election actually forced Biden and his team to change. SEC approved ETH Spot ETF applications because they didn't want to lose many support and votes to Trump by being anti Bitcoin and cryptocurrency industry some months before the Election.

It's not easy to know will Biden team keep up their promise and approach to be more friendly with blockchain industry and cryptocurrency market if they successfully defend their positions in the White House after this year election. Think positively, the campaigns before President Election in November helped us to have Bitcoin Spot ETFs and Ethereum Spot ETFs in 2024. It's good if we ignore other things that can be negatively or vague now.

He's attack on crypto industries and other bad decisions made are the reason why he's popularity also chance to retake his seat sinks. That's why Trump see's that opportunity to use for his campaign and portray to public that he's bitcoin and crypto friendly to show something that he's innovative guy then open for some great changes on US markets. But I still don't believe what that guy said since we are now on campaign period, those politicians will use whatever they can to make their names standout among their fellow candidates. Since what's important for them is to win nothing else more.

But we all know that Trump is hot nowadays and it seems like he have a good chance to take the presidency again. So lets just hope for better and he will follow what he said on campaign period backed bitcoin then US will became better place for crypto users.

I don't believe anything that politician says during their campaign period as they can change their words later and we can't do anything about that. He might be pro Bitcoin now as he needs votes from anywhere he can get them but when he enters the seats of the president, he'll forget all the promises he gave to the Bitcoin supporters. I think they both are fiats and I don't believe anything any of them are saying. Bitcoin doesn't need any of them for it to keep succeeding.

Any of them that wins won't matter as they can't stop Bitcoin. My thought on this matter is that Donald trump needs to do more than seeking the support of the Bitcoin supporters as he needs more votes from fiats believers than he does from Bitcoin believers to win the seat of the white house therefore he should focus his marketing elsewhere and leave us out of their politics before we become victims when the campaigns are over.

I’m just glad I got my bets for President in early because Biden’s odds of winning are sinking like a stone as he continues to embarrass himself and spout lies around the country. Anything can happen when known cheaters are involved, but I think it’s likely that Joe Biden is going to lose the Presidency by the most votes in American history, and I’d make that bet.

We shouldn't think that a president can automatically change the operations of a country automatically. Some strong anti-bitcoin forces in the US Congress will do everything possible to sponsor bills aimed at regulating the Bitcoin ecosystem. Some regulatory agencies are independent and the President has no power over them, so it will be difficult to push them to make Bitcoin-friendly laws.

Although Trump is asking for donations from the crypto community, there is no way he can get more donations from the sector than what he would get from centralized financial institutions. Big banks and other institutional investors will give him the biggest donations and he would have to make policies that will promote their business. These laws will be anti-decentralization which will also give them the chance to control the system.

Politicians are politicians. They usually lie just to get what they want. Would you imagine Trump not keeping his promises after being elected? Just like Javier Milei once he rose all the way to power. He forgot about abolishing the central bank and replacing the Argentine Peso with the USD or BTC. The same could happen with Donald Trump.

It seems that crypto is a subject of debate in politics. It could drastically change the outcome of elections this year. Between Trump, Biden, and RFK Jr., it seems to me that Trump is the most pro-crypto presidential candidate. For that reason alone, many crypto supporters will vote for him. We'll only know if he'll keep up with his promises after being re-elected. The future is widely unpredictable, so we can only hope for the best.

Trump does everything that he can do to get votes and beat Biden. His approach is very shady to my mind and if I were a Trump voter, I would seriously consider the level of his hypocrisy. No one should trust Trump about the promises that he gives away to get votes because if he gets the power, then that power will be abused and he will do whatever he thinks is right to crypto.

The USA is the number one country, if they make Bitcoin legal and help its adoption, this will be a message for other countries to do the same and billions of dollars inflow will skyrocket Bitcoin prices and the availability of stores/services that will accept Bitcoin payments.

You should compare each administration with its predecessor not the next one.
It's a trend that is happening all around the world and not just in USA. Biden is worse than Trump, Trump was worse than Obama (Bitcoin didn't exist during Bush admin.). The regulations for the crypto world is getting tighter and tighter. Next administration will get tighter regulations as well.

I dare say that even if Satoshi Nakamoto were to become US president this year, the regulations, KYC enforcements, the banning of anything remotely privacy related such as mixers, etc. will continue at a faster pace.

Governments want control and despise losing it. They will not stand idly by watching people reach financial sovereignty and they will not accept not-being able to for example shut down all their bank accounts and seize all their money any time they wanted to. So they'll start hitting back...

I wish the two of them can just step back and chill and allow a fresh candidate to rule US so we can see a new direction with all the policy they are trying to put in one. Biden is just old man who is fighting for power and the age is affecting him, it's all obvious and most of his decisions are been fuel by people who want to see him in power while Trump is just another psychopath who is hungry for power to complete his lunatic system.

I read about Robert Kennedy Jr in one of the thread I created and I was surprised that what Trump is pushing was actually not his idea, it was first started by Robert but I guess he doesn't have a strong hold in the US like Trump and Biden. It's better politicians don't weaponized crypto, they have always called it all sort of name, this is not the right time to solicit the support of the community, two clowns and entertainers.