Topic: Trump vs. Biden is almost like Bitcoin vs Fiat - page 3. (Read 1004 times)

Of course they wouldn't choose Biden. Especially with his administration's stance against the crypto/Blockchain industry. Regulations have been much stricter under President Biden than any of his predecessors (mainly Donald Trump). Smart voters know which candidate to choose as the next POTUS. It's likely crypto supporters will side with Trump in Election Day. Even Trump himself has publicly stated his support for crypto in his campaign. RFK Jr. also did the same, but the number of people following him are quite small. We can't expect much from an independent (no political party affiliation) Presidential candidate.

If Trump wins, Bitcoin will emerge victorious. But if he loses, it'll be game over for BTC in America. At least, that's the way I see it. Hopefully, Americans decide what's the best path forward for crypto in the country before it's too late. 

Things or promises of politicians in the US or any other advance countries are different from the African counterparts. It not those promises of Trump we won't take it serious because our leaders are opposite to their promises.  But in the in the developed countries leaders do what they promised so if Trump promise to support bitcoin then there is no doubt and that means mean Mixers will come back again.

And once US support bitcoin then the price will increase very well again. So we waiting for the good days ahead. The election is holding in the month of 5 November 2024 and after that date we will o ow that next fate of bitcoin.

So:

1. There's no evidence that Biden has ever fallen asleep in any sort of meeting, but you are going to believe that anyhow.

2. There's evidence on video of Trump falling asleep in his criminal trial, but you choose not to believe that.

You aren't following the evidence, buddy . You are following your heart. You can love Trump all you want, but you don't get to choose your own facts .



Not everybody here is a hard-core Republican who watches Fox News all day. There exists other viewpoints in the world, believe it or not .

When I get my wireless bill and it no longer has hidden BS fees, I "feel protected by Elizabeth Warren" because she helped create the laws in Congress that took those things out of there.

And Bitcoin went up 500% in the last three years so there's simply no evidence that all of this evil you allege Warren or whatever Democrats is having any negative effect on Bitcoin. It's clearly thriving, so my guess is that you are simply in favor of Trump and the Republicans winning for reasons not related to Bitcoin--which is totally fine.


The authorities in the Biden administration put SBF in prison and rescued the Bitcoin market from almost certain ruin. Again, if you are interested in Bitcoin, and the price of Bitcoin staying stable or going up, then there's no argument to be made against Biden and the Democrats.


He sure did. But because Democrats are (sadly) unique in their dedication to law and order among our major political parties today, SBF's donations to the Democrats did not help him at all. He was imprisoned regardless. Democrats prioritized law and order.

Only Trump takes donations in exchange for pardoning criminal acts.

1. Biden was doing a lot of things to slow down the growth of Bitcoin. We don't know how it would do if Trump won that last election. Maybe it would do better?

2. Under trump bitcoin was growing too. May I remind you that trump was nominated in January 2017, so during his presidency there was one of the biggest bull markets in history, taking bitcoin to 20x of its last ATH. Have you seen such price appreciation during Biden's presidency? All I've seen was a mere 3.5x in 2021 and 3 years later we're still at that level.



That trial was so boring that you'd fall asleep too and Trump said he just closed his eyes a few times and was never asleep. I wouldn't be surprised if the media wanted to make a bigger thing out of this than it really was.


That's complete and utter lie. Do you feel protected by Elizabeth Warren? How is she protecting anything by screaming that bitcoin is bad for the environment, or trying to tax bitcoin miners to force them out of the country? I feel like you're trolling here, trying to get emotional response out of us.


That happened under the nose of the SEC. Gensler was meeting with SBF in person. This shows they don't care about any consumer porotection, but money. They cared that SBF donated money to their campaigns and paid a shitload in taxes.


Didn't he donate more to the Democrats? If anybody should give him the medal it's Biden.
SBF was caught because he was too greedy and went bankrupt, not because of Biden, Warren or Gensler.

The US constitution is in serious need of some addendums.
A convicted felon is not allowed to vote in USA but at the same time convicted felons (even from behind bars) can run for presidency and even become president!

Well, when they didn't put it behind bars for crimes including incitement of insurrection, of course he is going to do it again.

You know what's the most absurd part of it is? Some of his crimes are categorized as Federal Crimes (like the 32 felony counts in violation of the Espionage Act) and if he manages to win the election he could pardon himself on day one... 🤦‍♂️

I think that every pro crypto person should vote for Trump, he at least trying to be a crypto guy

The Reichstag Moment was insane and guess what he is doing now that he has been found guilty on 34 charges. In one of his most recent interviews he said this:


In other words, he has once again been intentionally playing rhetorically with the possibility for another riot should he get sent to jail. The way he does it knowing what happened back then shows how reckless he can be when it comes to civil peace.

He is not exactly a businessman, he is more of a showman with a good advertising team who know what the hot topics are and can create good speeches for him to attract the public (or better said the sheeple). The same people who have forgotten that in the final months of his term, Trump was pulling off a Reichstag Moment and it would have succeeded if it weren't for his own Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff (the highest-ranking and most senior military officer in the United States Armed Forces, general Mark A. Milley).

So does his fake promises regarding crypto really matter when his own cabinet described his actions as the same actions by Hitler and the Nazi regime before solidifying their power?

If they didn't put SBF in prison, then Bitcoin would still be in the toilet that it was in before they cleaned that up.

Surely overregulation can be destructive, but obviously we need some regulation.


Um, does the "crypto community" have subpoena power? Can they bring charges and convict felons? I don't think so. Criminals like SBF surely wouldn't have been slowed down by any sort of "community". You need real laws to actually change behavior and protect consumers.

The FTX fiasco was unfortunate for many people who lost their money, but I don't believe state (over)regulation is going to save retail investors.

The crypto community invented a new protocol called Proof of Reserves to verify if a CEX holds 1:1 reserves and thus prevent any future Ponzi attempts.

The FTX fiasco also gave the opportunity to smart people to go all-in at 15k USD. Maybe the last opportunity to become a wholecoiner for the middle class.

Too bad we'll never see 15k ever again...

Regarding presidents, many Bitcoiners (let alone no-coiners) aren't savvy enough to understand that presidents are Deep State puppets.

Neither Trump, nor Biden is going stop stuff like CBDC (FedNow) and Real ID:

https://x.com/RealPatrickWebb/status/1797404225703477542

If you really think Powell is the true boss of the FED (we can all agree that the US president cannot influence/control FED), then that's not much different compared to believing in Santa Claus!

I don't know, I think the issue remains that there is a difference between talk and action. Of course Trump is now trying to mobilize all sorts of minority groups to make sure he won't lose the election with a few thousand votes or so, but whether or not he sticks to his word and will become the crypto guy he proclaims now? That's a difficult question as he is quite erratic, too. Once he might get elected as president, nothing will be set in stone by then. I guess he would still be more pro crypto than Biden, but whether he will become as pro crypto as he says remains to be seen then.

The issue is that it is not Biden alone who has an anti-stance and who is talking crap about some of the technological aspects, if he ever gets to it. The SEC is also talking bullshit and has some very strange opinions. I have no idea whether Trump becoming president would also mean that he can immediately replace relevant people at the SEC. I don't know how exactly the election of SEC people works and whether he can revoke decisions from the predecessor administration. But to really give BTC a boost it would need some significant changes at the SEC, too.

But overall I think the last word hasn't been spoken yet. However, Biden is such an old guy that I doubt he would ever fundamentally change his mind about cryptocurrencies. It would rather come down to his advisors.

There are millions of abortions that occur in the USA every year by millions of women. To stop all of these people from doing what they want, Trump's administration will have to create a massive new police presence. They are already creating this in various states, some of which are actually starting to control their own borders in order to keep women from leaving to have an abortion.

The point is, the US tried something like this before 100 years ago in the Prohibition. That invented a gigantic new police presence, and lead to hundreds of new laws cracking down on people's privacy. Trump's party is going to need to build something even bigger in order to stop all of those people from, well, having sex .


Alright, then, what's the source of the truth, according to the Democrats you?