Trump's victory and it's implications to world Economies - page 2.

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Quote from: DrBeer on November 24, 2024, 04:05:08 AM

Globalization is like democracy - “not the best option, but all others are worse”

Global economy, global financial system, global politics - everything is globalizing, it's a natural process, and maybe it will develop into something more perfect, but I'm not ready to guess what it will be. Let's hope it's just another stage of humanity's development.

PS Like Trump - not the best choice, but the other was even worse Grin

Agree. We need to choose "the lesser of two evils". Globalization is bad, but a polarized world is even worse. If things continue to go south, a new world order will arise. Just as history has shown us in the past. While American decline is certain, there's a long road ahead before the current world order collapses for good. The US Dollar is still used by many countries. Not to mention, it's the world's reserve currency. China's Yuan and Russia's Ruble have failed to take down the USD's hegemony. At least for now.

Trump will make America strong again. So it's likely countries will respect the US within the next 4 years. Maybe wars between them will also come to an end? One can only hope. If not, then it's bye-bye to the global economy for good.

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Quote from: Abiky on November 15, 2024, 03:11:23 PM

We need to get back to "globalization" ASAP. That's if we want peace and economic properity for all. Rising geopolitical conflicts will lead us towards a multi-polarized world. Each country will look for its own interests, instead of working together for a common good. Maybe Trump and his team will get things back on track? Only time will tell. A strong US leadership is sure to put an end to this madness once and for all.

I think the Biden administration's signs of weakness is what led us to this disaster in the first place. If Trump was president instead of Biden, Russia wouldn't had invaded Ukraine, and the Middle East would've still been in peace. Thank God Trump won a second term. Now things will finally get interesting. It will all begin on Jan 20th, 2025 (Inauguration Day). A swift recovery of the world's economy awaits us... Wink

Building a fragmented world, where the basis will be discord, wars, destabilization, constant conflicts - this is the goal of rogue countries like Russia, North Korea, Iran, and the like.
This is critical for totalitarian, anti-human regimes. They cannot live in a progressive developing, competitive world. They need a monopoly on total power, total subjugation, control of the masses of their essentially slaves. Global world unification implies common agreements, compromise solutions, equality, mechanisms of control and enforcement of obligations and laws. I.e. everything that contradicts the concept of totalitarianism and slave world. Therefore, the problem of preserving civilized peace on earth is now acute, otherwise we will be waiting for the “dark ages” and we can forget about a quiet, measured life and plans for the future.

Your predictions remind me of the book 1984 by George Orwell. I always thought as globalization as a evil we must live with, but in times like this it seems like that same globalization is one thing that keeps world from falling apart.

With Trumps victory, if he does as he promised, Europe could suffer if US withdraws military help. It seems that Europe will be on its own.

Globalization is like democracy - “not the best option, but all others are worse”

Global economy, global financial system, global politics - everything is globalizing, it's a natural process, and maybe it will develop into something more perfect, but I'm not ready to guess what it will be. Let's hope it's just another stage of humanity's development.

PS Like Trump - not the best choice, but the other was even worse Grin

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Quote from: dansus021 on November 16, 2024, 11:23:44 AM

Trump's victory and it's implications to world Economies, well maybe first of all I am not a US Citizen so I don't really know what it looks like for the US when Trump is in the office. I do remember when trump made a bold statment about when he is on chair there is no war but when the other president on chair there is always been a conflict.

If he really can stop the conflict between Ukraine Russia and Palestine Israel that will be crazy af and of course the US economic no I mean the world economic can turn green again, since Trump is businessman and he know about money and anything like that. One thing for sure when Trump is president the bitcoin is crazy Up and I hope they make a good thing about crypto in the future

See, I consider Trump to be the best president and human being in the world because his mind is everywhere and on everything. I don't think there has ever been an event where Trump was wrong.He had said before become the president that if I become the prime minister and the president we will see a new America once again. Because it has taken Bitcoin to a point no one else could have. It remains to be seen what other feat he has promise.

America will not do this at all because Israel is its friend and therefore will not have any conflict with it. That why I think he is a sensible person and intelligent because he is not like other president because he know how to run this country. And no one can run a country like him this is my claim.

Trump is the best person for that position and I am happen we are going to see more of his actions again. Biden has really tried and we hope to hear about him in the future but I want Trump to step in and make things work as it supposed to be. Just take a look at the Russian Ukraine war, the war would have not being in existence if Trump was supposed to be the president. Now, is like the democratic want to cause some commotion before leaving the office for the really man that is in to make changes. We are going to see another new dimension of what is called power and we could see Trump changing the economy to do better than his past time in office.

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Quote from: dansus021 on November 16, 2024, 11:23:44 AM

Trump's victory and it's implications to world Economies, well maybe first of all I am not a US Citizen so I don't really know what it looks like for the US when Trump is in the office. I do remember when trump made a bold statment about when he is on chair there is no war but when the other president on chair there is always been a conflict.

If he really can stop the conflict between Ukraine Russia and Palestine Israel that will be crazy af and of course the US economic no I mean the world economic can turn green again, since Trump is businessman and he know about money and anything like that. One thing for sure when Trump is president the bitcoin is crazy Up and I hope they make a good thing about crypto in the future

See, I consider Trump to be the best president and human being in the world because his mind is everywhere and on everything. I don't think there has ever been an event where Trump was wrong.He had said before become the president that if I become the prime minister and the president we will see a new America once again. Because it has taken Bitcoin to a point no one else could have. It remains to be seen what other feat he has promise.

America will not do this at all because Israel is it's friend and therefore will not have any conflict with it. That why I think he is a sensible person and intelligent because he is not like other president because he know how to run this country. And no one can run a country like him this is my claim.

To think Trump is the best human in the world is a very very weird approach, even the wildest trump fans wouldn't think that. Are you sure you know everything about him? Like, have you seen the news in the last ten years or so? I am not entirely sure you are aware of everything about him, and I mean if you just want to deny anything bad that was said about him, even court results, that's on you and I can't say much, and I am not even doubting why anyone would want him as president, that's fine, but the best human? Really?

I understand that the price increase in crypto made everyone in the crypto like him even more, because we got richer, but even that happened because we bought bitcoin, he didn't increase the price himself. Very weird take man, I hope you do well in life, but this one is not really that logical approach to the subject.

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Quote from: dansus021 on November 16, 2024, 11:23:44 AM

Trump's victory and it's implications to world Economies, well maybe first of all I am not a US Citizen so I don't really know what it looks like for the US when Trump is in the office. I do remember when trump made a bold statment about when he is on chair there is no war but when the other president on chair there is always been a conflict.

If he really can stop the conflict between Ukraine Russia and Palestine Israel that will be crazy af and of course the US economic no I mean the world economic can turn green again, since Trump is businessman and he know about money and anything like that. One thing for sure when Trump is president the bitcoin is crazy Up and I hope they make a good thing about crypto in the future

See, I consider Trump to be the best president and human being in the world because his mind is everywhere and on everything. I don't think there has ever been an event where Trump was wrong.He had said before become the president that if I become the prime minister and the president we will see a new America once again. Because it has taken Bitcoin to a point no one else could have. It remains to be seen what other feat he has promise.

America will not do this at all because Israel is its friend and therefore will not have any conflict with it. That why I think he is a sensible person and intelligent because he is not like other president because he know how to run this country. And no one can run a country like him this is my claim.

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Quote from: DrBeer on November 19, 2024, 04:18:41 AM

Building a fragmented world, where the basis will be discord, wars, destabilization, constant conflicts - this is the goal of rogue countries like Russia, North Korea, Iran, and the like.
This is critical for totalitarian, anti-human regimes. They cannot live in a progressive developing, competitive world. They need a monopoly on total power, total subjugation, control of the masses of their essentially slaves. Global world unification implies common agreements, compromise solutions, equality, mechanisms of control and enforcement of obligations and laws. I.e. everything that contradicts the concept of totalitarianism and slave world. Therefore, the problem of preserving civilized peace on earth is now acute, otherwise we will be waiting for the “dark ages” and we can forget about a quiet, measured life and plans for the future.

Yes. I feel you. A globalized world would be a complete nightmare for totalitarian regimes such as China and Russia. But would you imagine an scenario where autoritarianism reigns supreme? Then it will be the end of human progress as we know it. There needs to be a balance between powers for the stabilization of our society.

Fortunately, Trump won the US presidency (again). He aims to put things back on track by enforcing "peace through strength". Once countries respect and fear the US, peace and economic prosperity will be restored. The end of the Russo-Ukraine war and the Middle East crisis would be a good start. If Trump fails, our world will continue to fragment itself (polarized) until a new world order arises. Just as how history has shown us. All I want is for things to go back to the way they were before COVID-19 took the world by storm (back to normal). Or is it too late for that? Sad

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Trump cant be re-elected of course, since this is his second term and with USA term limits for presidents thats a given. Opponents can worry about Vance I guess but Trump will be in his eighties and the oldest ever serving president even as he leaves.

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This will hit the Russian economy very hard.

An ironic positive but I'll take it. Tariffs on China doesn't bode well for growth but since China is already an enemy to their own people, those near and possibly anyone else in reach its not exactly down to USA on the outcome.

In some ways Trump seems to appreciate that removing any impedance in business will give dividends to the economy but here with tariffs he intends to do the opposite and it will reduce trade for sure.

We have already tested the theory on cutting off trade over hundreds of years, it reduces economic activity despite the apparent benefit to internal trade this is slower to adapt to market demands. Also its not just China but most of europe who might have tariffs raised.

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Quote from: Cookdata on November 15, 2024, 10:51:10 AM

My problem with the middle east is that when one terrorim ends, another one start like a fire. Trump is smart person when it comes to avoiding war but I hope another propaganda don't start in his regime. Sometimes, I just think terrorism these days are political movement just to get back at each other and the people who suffer these actions are innocent people.

I don't think it will be like that, he is not going to put out a Little fire to unleash another worse one, what he is going to get is much more recognition and power, or I would be Surprised if he is re-Elected in his next candidacy for the presidency if he manages to do what he promised , then in view of this if he manages to guarantee war between Ukraine and Russia that will be a resounding success , so economic policies for the USA will Improve by themselves , because it will become the Safest country by Default , Investments will be something Incredible , I think he will do well.

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Quote from: DrBeer on November 19, 2024, 04:18:41 AM

Quote from: Abiky on November 15, 2024, 03:11:23 PM

We need to get back to "globalization" ASAP. That's if we want peace and economic properity for all. Rising geopolitical conflicts will lead us towards a multi-polarized world. Each country will look for its own interests, instead of working together for a common good. Maybe Trump and his team will get things back on track? Only time will tell. A strong US leadership is sure to put an end to this madness once and for all.

I think the Biden administration's signs of weakness is what led us to this disaster in the first place. If Trump was president instead of Biden, Russia wouldn't had invaded Ukraine, and the Middle East would've still been in peace. Thank God Trump won a second term. Now things will finally get interesting. It will all begin on Jan 20th, 2025 (Inauguration Day). A swift recovery of the world's economy awaits us... Wink

Building a fragmented world, where the basis will be discord, wars, destabilization, constant conflicts - this is the goal of rogue countries like Russia, North Korea, Iran, and the like.
This is critical for totalitarian, anti-human regimes. They cannot live in a progressive developing, competitive world. They need a monopoly on total power, total subjugation, control of the masses of their essentially slaves. Global world unification implies common agreements, compromise solutions, equality, mechanisms of control and enforcement of obligations and laws. I.e. everything that contradicts the concept of totalitarianism and slave world. Therefore, the problem of preserving civilized peace on earth is now acute, otherwise we will be waiting for the “dark ages” and we can forget about a quiet, measured life and plans for the future.

Your predictions remind me of the book 1984 by George Orwell. I always thought as globalization as a evil we must live with, but in times like this it seems like that same globalization is one thing that keeps world from falling apart.

With Trumps victory, if he does as he promised, Europe could suffer if US withdraws military help. It seems that Europe will be on its own.

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Quote from: Abiky on November 15, 2024, 03:11:23 PM

We need to get back to "globalization" ASAP. That's if we want peace and economic properity for all. Rising geopolitical conflicts will lead us towards a multi-polarized world. Each country will look for its own interests, instead of working together for a common good. Maybe Trump and his team will get things back on track? Only time will tell. A strong US leadership is sure to put an end to this madness once and for all.

I think the Biden administration's signs of weakness is what led us to this disaster in the first place. If Trump was president instead of Biden, Russia wouldn't had invaded Ukraine, and the Middle East would've still been in peace. Thank God Trump won a second term. Now things will finally get interesting. It will all begin on Jan 20th, 2025 (Inauguration Day). A swift recovery of the world's economy awaits us... Wink

Building a fragmented world, where the basis will be discord, wars, destabilization, constant conflicts - this is the goal of rogue countries like Russia, North Korea, Iran, and the like.
This is critical for totalitarian, anti-human regimes. They cannot live in a progressive developing, competitive world. They need a monopoly on total power, total subjugation, control of the masses of their essentially slaves. Global world unification implies common agreements, compromise solutions, equality, mechanisms of control and enforcement of obligations and laws. I.e. everything that contradicts the concept of totalitarianism and slave world. Therefore, the problem of preserving civilized peace on earth is now acute, otherwise we will be waiting for the “dark ages” and we can forget about a quiet, measured life and plans for the future.

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Quote from: Accardo on November 06, 2024, 05:40:44 PM

His campaign stood on strengthening America --upgrading the military to earn the loyalty of world leaders. In his interview with Elon on X he explained some of the strategies he used to minimize war. During his regime, He stayed in touch with Putin, the Chinese government, and endeavored to control the Asians from starting conflicts. Trump is capable of neutralizing fights, and he believes he's doing it again for America and the world.

I think Trump mission on world peace in his regime would be that of neutral stand on all ongoing wars, bot that of Isreal and Hamas, Russia and Ukraine and other emerging areas of geopolitical conflicts. What I seems to be encouraging the continuity of these wars especially that of Ukraine is the Biden backing of Ukraine with all forms of military aids but if Trump coming in discontinue with such aids (since it has been emphasizing on cutting government cost) and rather introduced some diplomatic truce talk with Putin and Zelensky then it's possible the war could find a peaceful landing surface for both sides.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 17, 2024, 01:13:57 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on November 07, 2024, 01:03:35 PM

He is a felon and all of this would be natural for him frankly speaking. The global economy will probably get a lot worse under his leadership this time just like the first time around sadly.

You speak of him like he had stepped on your toes before and they are all the negative report you're making about him,look at the positive sides as well,and of a truth people barely talk good about someone they don't like,Yeah trump is someone that don't give room for incompetence and he gives you is word on that but in the ongoing wars I think he has upper in making sure it stops but we can't really tell.

Please list those positive sides as facts, as that's going to fit here. I would need a book for the downsizes of his future presidency. And it would be just filled with his quotes, his sentences and facts.

Yeah, ted bundy was probably relaxed guy to his mates if we don't count all the killings, but leaving out all the bad things is not really a good way to characterize a person. And it's not like he stepped on your toes either.

I could list things i already have stated, but let's go with the new angle, and that's the fact that Trump just appointed net neutrality opponent, as FCC Chairman. So how do you think this will reflect to free speech? Forget the book bans made by republicans in the past for a moment. What does this one specific appointment signals to you in terms of free speech? How do you flip this as a good thing?

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Donald Trump may impose high tariffs on Chinese goods.

In response to this, in order to maintain the competitiveness of exported products, the Communist Party of China may devalue the Chinese yuan. This will hit the Russian economy very hard. The fact is that the Russian Welfare Fund currently consists entirely of Chinese yuan (there are no assets denominated in US dollars and euros in this fund). Also, Donald Trump's actions may provoke a drop in oil prices. This will also deal a powerful blow to the economies of Russia and Iran.

In general, Donald Trump's declared economic policy is to support large American corporations. At the same time, Microsoft founder Bill Gates, on the contrary, feels very uncomfortable in Trump's America and plans to move to another country.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 06, 2024, 04:40:50 PM

With Donald trump being declared winner of the just concluded united state of America election what is the future of global Economies and what is his stand on the ongoing wars currently going on in the world , does he have the capacity to end the Israel and Palestine war and the Russia vs Ukraine war which has lasted over two years now and has impacted negatively on the world economy

Will trump's second missionary journey back to the white house change American foreign policy and force Israel to stop the war and go the part of peace?

Let share our opinion here

I believe with all the promise Donald trump has made. I think he has the ability and influence on carrying out all of this. Trump is the man that has more virtue power than Biden. Look at his relationship with Putin and other leaders who seem to be so dangerous. Trump knows what to do to see this people agree to maintain.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 17, 2024, 01:13:57 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on November 07, 2024, 01:03:35 PM

He is a felon and all of this would be natural for him frankly speaking. The global economy will probably get a lot worse under his leadership this time just like the first time around sadly.

You speak of him like he had stepped on your toes before and they are all the negative report you're making about him,look at the positive sides as well,and of a truth people barely talk good about someone they don't like,Yeah trump is someone that don't give room for incompetence and he gives you is word on that but in the ongoing wars I think he has upper in making sure it stops but we can't really tell.

It is not unusual for political leaders to change to win elections. They can also change the conditions of the election itself. It is not that a person will have all the good qualities and not that everyone is good either. After Covid-19, war situation has been created almost everywhere in the world. The top leadership in the world have fueled this war, otherwise the war situation would have stopped. I don't know how much Trump can improve the war situation, but I do believe that the Trump administration will try to improve the situation that the world is going through now. Although we all know that America's foreign policy does not change much, we believe that there can be a peaceful solution to these discussed issues. But it cannot be said that it will happen very soon. Of course it will have to wait.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 06, 2024, 04:40:50 PM

With Donald trump being declared winner of the just concluded united state of America election what is the future of global Economies and what is his stand on the ongoing wars currently going on in the world , does he have the capacity to end the Israel and Palestine war and the Russia vs Ukraine war which has lasted over two years now and has impacted negatively on the world economy

Will trump's second missionary journey back to the white house change American foreign policy and force Israel to stop the war and go the part of peace?

Let share our opinion here

I think trump needs to be more diplomatic in his decision-makings and and I think this is when he needs more wise counsel mostly because the world crisis needs more wise and diplomatic approach to avoid escalating the existing crisis

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 07, 2024, 01:03:35 PM

He is a felon and all of this would be natural for him frankly speaking. The global economy will probably get a lot worse under his leadership this time just like the first time around sadly.

You speak of him like he had stepped on your toes before and they are all the negative report you're making about him,look at the positive sides as well,and of a truth people barely talk good about someone they don't like,Yeah trump is someone that don't give room for incompetence and he gives you is word on that but in the ongoing wars I think he has upper in making sure it stops but we can't really tell.

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There is a little glimmer of hope to stop the widespread conflict in the middle east not only gaza but Iran and other eastern regions, I also hope Trump has the inclination to improve the US name in the eyes of the world as a country that has double standards towards humanity, of course its reputation must be saved in his leadership.

You are right that now there is no big impact on the conflict but it may be as expected, on the other hand in some conditions such as the US economy and stock growth is starting to grow again and that is a good thing for, some cons with Russia and China it looks like Trump will improve diplomatic relations that were tenuous.

Glimer though, not a full on stop. Because, even though we know that Trump doesn't like war and he would personally love to stop them all, he can't make everyone happy with a middle ground neither.

Like for example with Russia and Ukraine, what can he do? He would want to stop that war, and he would love to stop putting money into Ukraine as well, he never liked funding military of other nations anyway. But, what would that get? More Ukrainians dead, and a lot more space gained by Russians, and that is not something USA would want, so there would be even more people who would undermine Trump and try to figure out a way to keep helping Ukraine. If he can figure out a way to stop the war by keeping both nations happy, then yeah everyone would love him, so he has to figure that out.

Isn't the Ukraine problem a NATO military office that will be built in Ukraine as a country that wants to enter the unit, so Trump only needs to withdraw it and leave Ukraine free of Russia, previously also with Russia does not become a problem if the Ukraine country does not involve many things about the military of their rival countries such as US, actually friends are quite good because Ukraine is also a drop of the Soviet Union Blood in his past, only because of a selfish Zelensky and forced himself to join the unity of the state outside Russia made their relationship messy, Trump only needed to limit All aspects that continue to suck up the country's budget, but for the Jewish country he cannot talk much, the bankers in America have an attachment to the past until now.

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It was clear from the beginning that Trump was not really interested in crypto and he probably took an opposing stance towards it at some point. Trump's position evolved in line with Elon Musk's open-minded view towards crypto because Musk proved his ability to mobilize support for him via Twitter and the crypto community, which considers Musk one of the most influential. It is a complementary relationship between the two men, regardless of the type of goals. The crypto community found itself benefiting from this relationship.

After Trump's victory, who had made many promises regarding the crypto sector, which caused the price of Bitcoin to rise to unprecedented levels, and after Elon Musk gained political influence that could influence, even if to a limited extent, the country's policy directions, expectations are high from this alliance. The market seems to be in its best condition despite all the fears.

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Quote from: eightdots on November 16, 2024, 06:37:38 AM

We saw Elon Musk's influence on the elections in the election results. We also know what Elon Musk said and did about DOGE. After Trump won, the cryptocurrency market took on a positive atmosphere and started to rise. I wonder what will happen regarding DOGE's goals and what role Musk will play.

There is uncertainty about Musk's appointment as minister and what kind of work he will do, but the details will become clear soon. So far, they have given a summary of the work the ministry will do, but the details will become clearer as time goes by.

There may be many issues that Trump and Musk disagree on, such as climate change. In fact, we can see this a lot in politics. What kind of administration will be, what path will be followed in economic and other issues are a matter of curiosity.

That was not really something I expected to see to be fair. I believed that Elon Musk wouldn't really have a big impact on the elections itself, but turns out he did really have a big play in there. That is fine and I believe we are going to see the situation changing long term as well. Thing is that we are not really seeing anything crazy there, we are seeing these things becoming a very normal situation all together and we can't really consider rich people to stay away all together. Wasn't it very obvious that if Kamala won that would be bad for business to Elon Musk?

It was pretty obvious that Elon needed Trump to win, and even better, if he sided with Kamala then he wouldn't be seen in a good light anyways, but when he sided with Trump that meant he would be doing much better. So these people, even though they are very wealthy, are only doing this because they believe in the system working for them better, and Elon supported Trump because he could profit from that.

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