Topic: Trump's victory and it's implications to world Economies (Read 1030 times)

Yes. I feel you. A globalized world would be a complete nightmare for totalitarian regimes such as China and Russia. But would you imagine an scenario where autoritarianism reigns supreme? Then it will be the end of human progress as we know it. There needs to be a balance between powers for the stabilization of our society.

Fortunately, Trump won the US presidency (again). He aims to put things back on track by enforcing "peace through strength". Once countries respect and fear the US, peace and economic prosperity will be restored. The end of the Russo-Ukraine war and the Middle East crisis would be a good start. If Trump fails, our world will continue to fragment itself (polarized) until a new world order arises. Just as how history has shown us. All I want is for things to go back to the way they were before COVID-19 took the world by storm (back to normal). Or is it too late for that?

Trump cant be re-elected of course, since this is his second term and with USA  term limits for presidents thats a given.   Opponents can worry about Vance I guess but Trump will be in his eighties and the oldest ever serving president even as he leaves.


An ironic positive but I'll take it.   Tariffs on China doesn't bode well for growth but since China is already an enemy to their own people, those near and possibly anyone else in reach its not exactly down to USA on the outcome.

In some ways Trump seems to appreciate that removing any impedance in business will give dividends to the economy but here with tariffs he intends to do the opposite and it will reduce trade for sure.

   We have already tested the theory on cutting off trade over hundreds of years, it reduces economic activity despite the apparent benefit to internal trade this is slower to adapt to market demands.  Also its not just China but most of europe who might have tariffs raised.

I don't think it will be like that, he is not going to put out a Little fire to unleash another worse one, what he is going to get is much more recognition and power, or I would be Surprised if he is re-Elected in his next candidacy for the presidency if he manages to do what he promised , then in view of this if he manages to guarantee war between Ukraine and Russia that will be a resounding success , so economic policies for the USA will Improve by themselves , because it will become the Safest country by Default , Investments will be something Incredible , I think he will do well.

Your predictions remind me of the book 1984 by George Orwell. I always thought as globalization as a evil we must live with, but in times like this it seems like that same globalization is one thing that keeps world from falling apart.

With Trumps victory, if he does as he promised, Europe could suffer if US withdraws military help. It seems that Europe will be on its own.

Building a fragmented world, where the basis will be discord, wars, destabilization, constant conflicts - this is the goal of rogue countries like Russia, North Korea, Iran, and the like.
This is critical for totalitarian, anti-human regimes. They cannot live in a progressive developing, competitive world. They need a monopoly on total power, total subjugation, control of the masses of their essentially slaves. Global world unification implies common agreements, compromise solutions, equality, mechanisms of control and enforcement of obligations and laws. I.e. everything that contradicts the concept of totalitarianism and slave world. Therefore, the problem of preserving civilized peace on earth is now acute, otherwise we will be waiting for the “dark ages” and we can forget about a quiet, measured life and plans for the future.

I think Trump mission on world peace in his regime would be that of neutral stand on all ongoing wars, bot that of Isreal and Hamas, Russia and Ukraine and other emerging areas of geopolitical conflicts. What I seems to be encouraging the continuity of these wars especially that of Ukraine is the Biden backing of Ukraine with all forms of military aids but if Trump coming in discontinue with such aids (since it has been emphasizing on cutting government cost) and rather introduced some diplomatic truce talk with Putin and Zelensky then it's possible the war could find a peaceful landing surface for both sides. 

Please list those positive sides as facts, as that's going to fit here. I would need a book for the downsizes of his future presidency. And it would be just filled with his quotes, his sentences and facts.

Yeah, ted bundy was probably relaxed guy to his mates. if we don't count all the killings, but leaving out all the bad things is not really a good way to characterize a person. And it's not like he stepped on your toes either.

I could list things i already have stated, but let's go with the new angle, and that's the fact that Trump just appointed net neutrality opponent, as FCC Chairman. So how do you think this will reflect to free speech? Forget the book bans made by republicans in the past for a moment. What does this one specific appointment signals to you in terms of free speech? How do you flip this as a good thing?

Donald Trump may impose high tariffs on Chinese goods.

In response to this, in order to maintain the competitiveness of exported products, the Communist Party of China may devalue the Chinese yuan. This will hit the Russian economy very hard. The fact is that the Russian Welfare Fund currently consists entirely of Chinese yuan (there are no assets denominated in US dollars and euros in this fund). Also, Donald Trump's actions may provoke a drop in oil prices. This will also deal a powerful blow to the economies of Russia and Iran.

In general, Donald Trump's declared economic policy is to support large American corporations. At the same time, Microsoft founder Bill Gates, on the contrary, feels very uncomfortable in Trump's America and plans to move to another country.

I believe with all the promise Donald trump has made. I think he has the ability and influence on carrying out all of this. Trump is the man that has more virtue power than Biden. Look at his relationship with Putin and other leaders who seem to be so dangerous. Trump knows what to do to see this people agree to maintain.

It is not unusual for political leaders to change to win elections. They can also change the conditions of the election itself. It is not that a person will have all the good qualities and not that everyone is good either. After Covid-19, war situation has been created almost everywhere in the world. The top leadership in the world have fueled this war, otherwise the war situation would have stopped. I don't know how much Trump can improve the war situation, but I do believe that the Trump administration will try to improve the situation that the world is going through now. Although we all know that America's foreign policy does not change much, we believe that there can be a peaceful solution to these discussed issues. But it cannot be said that it will happen very soon. Of course it will have to wait.

I think trump needs to be more diplomatic in his  decision-makings and  and I think this is when he needs more wise counsel mostly because the world crisis needs more wise and diplomatic approach to avoid escalating the existing crisis

You speak of him like he had stepped on your toes before and they are all the negative report you're making about him,look at the positive sides as well,and of a truth people barely talk good about someone they don't like,Yeah trump is someone that don't give room for incompetence and he gives you is word on that but in the ongoing wars I think he has upper  in making sure it stops but we can't really tell.

Isn't the Ukraine problem a NATO military office that will be built in Ukraine as a country that wants to enter the unit, so Trump only needs to withdraw it and leave Ukraine free of Russia, previously also with Russia does not become a problem if the Ukraine country does not involve many things about the military of their rival countries such as US, actually friends are quite good because Ukraine is also a drop of the Soviet Union Blood in his past, only because of a selfish Zelensky and forced himself to join the unity of the state outside Russia made their relationship messy, Trump only needed to limit All aspects that continue to suck up the country's budget, but for the Jewish country he cannot talk much, the bankers in America have an attachment to the past until now.

It was clear from the beginning that Trump was not really interested in crypto and he probably took an opposing stance towards it at some point. Trump's position evolved in line with Elon Musk's open-minded view towards crypto because Musk proved his ability to mobilize support for him via Twitter and the crypto community, which considers Musk one of the most influential. It is a complementary relationship between the two men, regardless of the type of goals. The crypto community found itself benefiting from this relationship.

After Trump's victory, who had made many promises regarding the crypto sector, which caused the price of Bitcoin to rise to unprecedented levels, and after Elon Musk gained political influence that could influence, even if to a limited extent, the country's policy directions, expectations are high from this alliance. The market seems to be in its best condition despite all the fears.

That was not really something I expected to see to be fair. I believed that Elon Musk wouldn't really have a big impact on the elections itself, but turns out he did really have a big play in there. That is fine and I believe we are going to see the situation changing long term as well. Thing is that we are not really seeing anything crazy there, we are seeing these things becoming a very normal situation all together and we can't really consider rich people to stay away all together. Wasn't it very obvious that if Kamala won that would be bad for business to Elon Musk?

It was pretty obvious that Elon needed Trump to win, and even better, if he sided with Kamala then he wouldn't be seen in a good light anyways, but when he sided with Trump that meant he would be doing much better. So these people, even though they are very wealthy, are only doing this because they believe in the system working for them better, and Elon supported Trump because he could profit from that.

Trump's victory and it's implications to world Economies, well maybe first of all I am not a US Citizen so I don't really know what it looks like for the US when Trump is in the office. I do remember when trump made a bold statment about when he is on chair there is no war but when the other president on chair there is always been a conflict.

If he really can stop the conflict between Ukraine Russia and Palestine Israel that will be crazy af and of course the US economic no I mean the world economic can turn green again, since Trump is businessman and he know about money and anything like that. One thing for sure when Trump is president the bitcoin is crazy Up and I hope they make a good thing about crypto in the future

For thousands of years the world has been multi-polar and even though conflicts existed (and will continue to exist) but things weren't this bad.

Not to mention that what you described is not what globalization is. Globalization specially in a unipolar world means the entire world has to work for the good of that single pole. None of them are allowed to grow.
Take Saudi usurped Arabia for instance. The Arabs there are not allowed to have democracy. They have to endure an authoritarian regime because US wants it that way. This regime is allowed to sell lots of oil but it is not allowed to invest any of that money in the development of the country in any way that would benefit the citizens. They are only allowed to invest that money in America and they have to purchase weapons from the US and then also only use those weapons for the US.
This is why if you travel to Arabia and move one street away from the hotel you'd enter slums with people living in absolute poverty.

If by "back on track" you mean back to unipolar world, then no it is over.
If by "back on track" you mean end the wars, that is not going to happen with the radicals Trump appointed already to his cabinet.

Wrong on both counts.
Russia has been preparing to invade Ukraine and fight the NATO advancement at least from 2013.
West Asia has also been at war with the US ever since Bush decided to invade the region and "destroy 7 countries in 5 years" just because all those countries were rich with resources including oil. In other words destabilization of what you call "Middle East" started more than 2 decades ago and in fact Trump made a lot of things worse during his previous term.

Also in case you've forgotten during last month of his presidency everyone in the US was worried he will pull a "Reichstag Moment" and also start a nuclear war just to remain in power!

That is wishful thinking in my opinion.
- With his version of Tariff War we'd be lucky if we see a recession+inflation like 2020 to 2023.
- With his warmongering cabinet we'd be lucky if we don't end up with a global nuclear war...

I'd rather see this as Trump's victory and its impact on crypto, not the economy. I meant, he was totally focusing on the crypto like what he said that on his campaign, and he sees US will lead the adoption of crypto to boost US economic as well.

Talking about the war, Trump can't stop it. He can't force the countries involved to end the conflicts. As US president, he can send a warning. But, its decision totally depends on the conflicted nations.

This likes what happened when Biden warned Israel, but it didn't work.

We saw Elon Musk's influence on the elections in the election results. We also know what Elon Musk said and did about DOGE. After Trump won, the cryptocurrency market took on a positive atmosphere and started to rise. I wonder what will happen regarding DOGE's goals and what role Musk will play.

There is uncertainty about Musk's appointment as minister and what kind of work he will do, but the details will become clear soon. So far, they have given a summary of the work the ministry will do, but the details will become clearer as time goes by.

There may be many issues that Trump and Musk disagree on, such as climate change. In fact, we can see this a lot in politics. What kind of administration will be, what path will be followed in economic and other issues are a matter of curiosity.

Glimer though, not a full on stop. Because, even though we know that Trump doesn't like war and he would personally love to stop them all, he can't make everyone happy with a middle ground neither.

Like for example with Russia and Ukraine, what can he do? He would want to stop that war, and he would love to stop putting money into Ukraine as well, he never liked funding military of other nations anyway. But, what would that get? More Ukrainians dead, and a lot more space gained by Russians, and that is not something USA would want, so there would be even more people who would undermine Trump and try to figure out a way to keep helping Ukraine. If he can figure out a way to stop the war by keeping both nations happy, then yeah everyone would love him, so he has to figure that out.