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legendary
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I see that Trump has already actively started calling everyone, is he really going to end the war?

Pretty much depends on whether it is in benefit of his own career as politician, I think he will try to stop the war in Ukraine but he probably won't do anything to try to save guard the rights of the people from Palestine, he will do whatever Israel tells him it is necessary to protect their territory from Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran.
By the way, it has been already revealed there was an actual plot going on from Iran to try to assassinate Trump, so that should give you an idea on how much Tehran does not want Trump to mess around and give unchecked support to Israel.
Trump is likely to push Ukraine into accepting to give up some land to Russia, pretty much in Zelensky dismay.

I agree with you on this, I believe that as soon as he takes office he will seek to end the war in Ukraine and Russia immediately after. I also believe that he will push Ukraine to accept losses in this war instead of negotiating with Russia because that is much more difficult. Recently, President Zelenskyy also reacted negatively in an interview with Radio Ukraine. He said even the United States could not force them to sit down and listen at the negotiating table, which could indicate that Trump had set conditions that were not what he expected.

Regarding the war in the Middle East, I think he will not seek to stop it and will continue to support Israel because America's interests in the Middle East largely depend on Israel. But things may not get any worse as some reports say Trump will try to negotiate with Tehran before moving forward with plans to impose tough sanctions.



https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1857807937244107132
legendary
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Trump's political career is not over yet, he still has four years ahead of him and even after the end of this second term he still is going to have quite of a great influence on the voting population (depending how popular he manages to get by the end of this term), he could easily use that power to appoint someone he chooses as the next leader of the Republican party, for example, one of his adult children to give continuation to MAGA for the years to come, beyond his retirement.
It is a political career, that is how I call it.

On the other hand, it is clear the political career of Joe Biden is literally over, he is going to retire from politics as soon as he finishes the peaceful transition of power into the Trump's second administration. Quite ironic, considering he was seeking a re-election earlier this year.
legendary
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November 15, 2024, 07:05:15 PM
#78
I see that Trump has already actively started calling everyone, is he really going to end the war?

Pretty much depends on whether it is in benefit of his own career as politician, I think he will try to stop the war in Ukraine but he probably won't do anything to try to save guard the rights of the people from Palestine, he will do whatever Israel tells him it is necessary to protect their territory from Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran.
By the way, it has been already revealed there was an actual plot going on from Iran to try to assassinate Trump, so that should give you an idea on how much Tehran does not want Trump to mess around and give unchecked support to Israel.
Trump is likely to push Ukraine into accepting to give up some land to Russia, pretty much in Zelensky dismay.

Trump's political career? What? Do you think he is going to run for President again? Is he going to run for Congress at age 83, or whenever his presidential term is over?

If Trump pushes Ukraine into giving up some of its land to Russia, it will keep Russia from taking all of Ukraine. After all, Ukraine is approximately dead, as far as they can fight a war, that is.

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legendary
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November 15, 2024, 04:27:56 PM
#77
I see that Trump has already actively started calling everyone, is he really going to end the war?

Pretty much depends on whether it is in benefit of his own career as politician, I think he will try to stop the war in Ukraine but he probably won't do anything to try to save guard the rights of the people from Palestine, he will do whatever Israel tells him it is necessary to protect their territory from Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran.
By the way, it has been already revealed there was an actual plot going on from Iran to try to assassinate Trump, so that should give you an idea on how much Tehran does not want Trump to mess around and give unchecked support to Israel.
Trump is likely to push Ukraine into accepting to give up some land to Russia, pretty much in Zelensky dismay.
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November 14, 2024, 07:09:04 AM
#76
People voted and expected Trump to win because they believed that under Trump, we would have less war, the economy would improve. Or when it comes to crypto, he won't be so strict or tough but instead will be more friendly to us.  
In his first term most of his logical and possible promises where delivered 70% of it or even more. New war didn't happened on his term even the bullying of other big countries (Russia and China) to its neighboring country didn't happen and didn't become worst. But sadly, pandemic happened on his terms, and that's the worst thing to happen to any president in any country at that time so i can't say any evaluation about the economy on his term.
Well, at this time, i will also say what was quoted, at least vote the least evil and with more potential, so yeah, we will stick to it.


It is undeniable that the covid pandemic or some of Trump's decisions and policies during his first term were not perfect and still have many shortcomings. But we can also compare and feel for ourselves in the two most recent terms: under Trump (2016-2021) or under Biden (2020-2024). Which period was more prosperous and peaceful? From there, we will know whether Trump's election as the 47th president of the United States is convincing and worthy or not .  I wonder, if Trump is not more worthy than Harris, why do the American people want him to be president and not Harris ?
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November 12, 2024, 11:37:15 AM
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The thing is.. Many speculate that if Harris would be put in the place of Trump, the market would plummet a bit, but as we know - after a storm, comes a calm period  Grin So it would be a dump with the better positions for big hands to wait for the news to start the rally, albeit a bit later that we experience now.
However - we may experience corrections along the way we walk along the aftermath of the elections, so, it wouldn't really matter to me who won - the rally for BTC would start anyway.

If the market corrects in a healthy direction, this is indeed a good time to buy more, but if the market plummets due to a specific threat from the government, this is no longer the perfect time to buy more. If Harris would be put in the place of Trump, it will be bad both short term and long term because if she really hates bitcoin then we won't have much room for growth during her years in office.

Each administration will have different attitudes and policies, which will have different impacts on the market. So I think who wins is important. If Harris won, we wouldn't have seen Bitcoin hit $90k in the last few days and that's a huge difference.
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November 12, 2024, 02:43:02 AM
#74
I see that Trump has already actively started calling everyone, is he really going to end the war?
legendary
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November 11, 2024, 08:52:44 PM
#73
Yes yes yes we all know how everyone is elated about trump's victory.
But personally I think we shouldn't get excited yet, there has been so many promises made but we all know politics and how politicians can still change overnight.


I don't think trump could have done much better given how prejudical the whole education system is in brainwashing the population over the last 40 years.
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November 11, 2024, 07:39:00 PM
#72
Even back in 2016, when Trump was facing Hillary Clinton and ultimately won the electoral college, he promised a lot of things, being the most famous one to build the wall (and make Mexico pay for it) most of the stuff promised by Trump did not happen and now, several years forward I still don't expect that man to keep his word and do a fraction of what he has promised he would do as a president.
Do you all remember how he talked about how fast and easily he was going to pay off the public debt of the United States in a single term? Under his first administration the national debt only rose, because he thought it was a better idea to cut taxes for his billionaire friends and further increase the burden on the future generations of Americans.

I could even bet he won't dare to put tariffs on Chinese goods as he has said he would during his campaign, because someone (more intelligent than him) will persuade him from doing it, for the sake of the fragile economy of the United States.
If you are a Bitcoin holder or a trader, just expect more tax cuts on your assets, and that is being too generous from Trump.
legendary
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November 11, 2024, 05:07:07 PM
#71
Yes yes yes we all know how everyone is elated about trump's victory.
But personally I think we shouldn't get excited yet, there has been so many promises made but we all know politics and how politicians can still change overnight.
You have a genuine concern, Trump will do little or nothing in the crypto space, he only used it as part of tactics to ascend the throne, nevertheless, it's working for the market which is what we should think of right now. After all, this has rekindled the market excitement and brought about more liquidity, that's good. The market often reacts more heavily to rumours and promises than reality at times, so I am not surprised about what is happening. This is coupled with the present bull run season of Bitcoin as we experience in cycles, so we should enjoy it while it lasts. Things will subside in 2025 as usual when the bearish season comes into play again, but I don't know if Trump's disappointment in followers will aggravate it this time.

But Trump's throne is a throne of freedom that he is bringing back to all of us. You can see it in the price of Bitcoin... to the moon and stars. Also, review the post above this one.


Liberal Hollywood Star Michael Douglas Admits That Trump’s Republicans Are the ‘Party of the People’ While Dems Are ‘Elitists’



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/liberal-hollywood-star-michael-douglas-admits-that-trumps/
There's a long ongoing saga of liberals trying to come to term with reality.

Besides mad leftists shaving their heads and freaking out on camera, there are also those who try to understand America's moment using whatever mental faculties the TDS did not destroy.

It's the case of Academy Award winner Michael Douglas.

The Hollywood star has allowed himself to admit – even if it was notably painful for him – that the GOP under President-elect Donald Trump is now the 'party of the people', while Douglas' beloved Democrats are now seen as 'elitist'.

The actor appeared Friday (Cool on Bill Maher's Real Time , and the episode dealt primarily with Trump's historic victory over Kamala Harris.

Douglas, who is a liberal diehard supporter of the Democrat party, did not hide his distress over Trump's win.

Breitbart reported:

"'Wednesday morning, I was just so pissed at this razor thin race, right? It was going to be so close, you know, with all these polls — and it's a wipeout', Douglas said, adding that he later spent the day playing golf."

Douglas told Maher that the Democrats lost the election over the economy.

"'In 40 years, the stock market has increased 5,000 percent and real earning wages have increased 14 percent', Douglas said, later adding that ordinary Americans 'are going week to week with the inflation, it is killing them'.

'And I think we really underestimated it, and the very fact now that we could talk about Republicans as being the people, the party for the people, and that we have this elitist party on the left, Democrats, is wild'."
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legendary
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November 11, 2024, 03:31:49 PM
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Sorry, OP, but seeing the price makes me excited and convinced.
I agree that Trump may not change much for bitcoin, but at the very least he'll end the period of uncertainty, as he won't go after it.

What did Biden try to do? Choke bitcoin by delaying ETFs, allowing environmentalists to attack it, especially in Congress.
You can see who was on their side, since Harris considered promoting Gensler if she happened to win the election, while Republicans were criticizing him.
I'm not even going to start talking about Elizabeth Warren and Brad Sherman. Democratic camp is full of anti-bitcoin, pro woke socialists. I'm glad that they don't get to dictate their terms for the next 4 years.

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November 11, 2024, 02:28:07 PM
#69
Yes yes yes we all know how everyone is elated about trump's victory.
But personally I think we shouldn't get excited yet, there has been so many promises made but we all know politics and how politicians can still change overnight.
You have a genuine concern, Trump will do little or nothing in the crypto space, he only used it as part of tactics to ascend the throne, nevertheless, it's working for the market which is what we should think of right now. After all, this has rekindled the market excitement and brought about more liquidity, that's good. The market often reacts more heavily to rumours and promises than reality at times, so I am not surprised about what is happening. This is coupled with the present bull run season of Bitcoin as we experience in cycles, so we should enjoy it while it lasts. Things will subside in 2025 as usual when the bearish season comes into play again, but I don't know if Trump's disappointment in followers will aggravate it this time.
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November 11, 2024, 09:44:08 AM
#68
Yes yes yes we all know how everyone is elated about trump's victory.
But personally I think we shouldn't get excited yet, there has been so many promises made but we all know politics and how politicians can still change overnight.

After the election of Donald Trump, the positive thing that everyone expected for Bitcoin in the market is being realized according to Trump's statement and the price of Bitcoin has already hit 82 thousand dollars where my expectation was 85 thousand dollars. so it can be said that Bitcoin is almost at the end of reaching its maximum price. But it is possible that in this hype the price of Bitcoin may reach more than our expectations which may be more than 90 thousand dollars.
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November 11, 2024, 09:15:49 AM
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The thing is.. Many speculate that if Harris would be put in the place of Trump, the market would plummet a bit, but as we know - after a storm, comes a calm period  Grin So it would be a dump with the better positions for big hands to wait for the news to start the rally, albeit a bit later that we experience now.
However - we may experience corrections along the way we walk along the aftermath of the elections, so, it wouldn't really matter to me who won - the rally for BTC would start anyway.
If Kamala Harris wasn't a crypto supporter, putting Kamala Harris in Donald Trump's place would cause the price of Bitcoin to drop significantly. We've heard many say that Kamala Harris is not in favor of Bitcoin. Donald Trump is a supporter of cryptocurrencies, as we have seen in the market over the past few days. However, the cryptocurrency market will go up unilaterally, it is not mandatory. So dumping after that is normal as the market has been going up for a long time. But if the market is dumping there is nothing to blame Donald Trump.
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November 11, 2024, 08:06:05 AM
#66
Yes yes yes we all know how everyone is elated about trump's victory.
But personally I think we shouldn't get excited yet, there has been so many promises made but we all know politics and how politicians can still change overnight.

Therefore my position in responding to this kind of thing is to remain neutral until the demands that are beneficial especially for the crypto community are met. People who provide support because there is an agenda that is expected to be realized. Trump has officially won and his inauguration has not started, so we will wait and see what steps will be taken in the first 100 days after he was inaugurated, whether there is a realization of the promises that he has been touting in every campaign, be it issues of overcoming war, the economy, or Bitcoin position in the US.
legendary
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November 11, 2024, 07:53:11 AM
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Yes yes yes we all know how everyone is elated about trump's victory.
But personally I think we shouldn't get excited yet, there has been so many promises made but we all know politics and how politicians can still change overnight.
Not for this aspect because already we have seen how the market is surging uncontrollably this means his promises would come into effects, and besides he has already given his words during campaign and I don't think he could be that deceitful as i know Trump is to strict on his words and i mean everything that comes from his mouth will surely be implemented, even though not 100% at least 68-89% must surely be implemented. Like I know, it's his victory that is propelling bitcoin so far and so fast so we shouldn't think otherwise.

I would say it would 50/50, but I hope for your words to be true.
BTC would propel forward with or without Trump, there would be just a different event or chain of events to do so, but we are here at BTC being 80k-ish, and with a perspective to go further than that, definitely.
Yes that is true though if not for his victory we wouldn't have seen Bitcoin surging this fast, okay just come to think if it was Kamala Harris who won the election do you think bitcoin would have still waxed this strong in terms of price action and movement? 

No! I don't think so, by now we could have been bleeding seriously because the market will suffer losing and lot of US citizens could have been looking for a way out currently but I guess it's the opposite were he finally emerged as the winner of 2024 presidential US election.

Somehow this is the effect of his victory since bitcoin create certain good grip since many people believe that it will be supported by Trump administration since this is what he promised and always said to people. As of the moment Bitcoin already surpassed again a new ATH and currently sitting at $82k and there huge chance that we can see a $90k until end of this year.

If Kamala Harris won? I guess the approach is different. But we won't see a bad dumps since for sure people would still be bullish despite of that possible event that might happen. But guess there's nothing to do now especially for Harris supporter, Trump already won and they need to deal with what he want to implement in America.
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November 11, 2024, 07:30:15 AM
#64
Yes yes yes we all know how everyone is elated about trump's victory.
But personally I think we shouldn't get excited yet, there has been so many promises made but we all know politics and how politicians can still change overnight.
Not for this aspect because already we have seen how the market is surging uncontrollably this means his promises would come into effects, and besides he has already given his words during campaign and I don't think he could be that deceitful as i know Trump is to strict on his words and i mean everything that comes from his mouth will surely be implemented, even though not 100% at least 68-89% must surely be implemented. Like I know, it's his victory that is propelling bitcoin so far and so fast so we shouldn't think otherwise.

I would say it would 50/50, but I hope for your words to be true.
BTC would propel forward with or without Trump, there would be just a different event or chain of events to do so, but we are here at BTC being 80k-ish, and with a perspective to go further than that, definitely.
Yes that is true though if not for his victory we wouldn't have seen Bitcoin surging this fast, okay just come to think if it was Kamala Harris who won the election do you think bitcoin would have still waxed this strong in terms of price action and movement? 

No! I don't think so, by now we could have been bleeding seriously because the market will suffer losing and lot of US citizens could have been looking for a way out currently but I guess it's the opposite were he finally emerged as the winner of 2024 presidential US election.
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November 11, 2024, 03:41:46 AM
#63
Putting faith in a candidate before an election is like gambling, we may gain some benefits or get nothing. Many of us say that they gamble just for fun and they don't feel bad if they lose because they understand that the nature of gambling is luck. I think we should also apply that mindset when putting our trust in politicians, because they can keep their promises but they can also break them and there is nothing we can do about it. Instead of being naive and believing too much in what politicians say, let's not forget that the nature of politics is lying.
Yes, it is like a gambling because we never know what they will do when they elected. Many politicians change their vision after they elected and do something different from their promises. We as a citizens is already know about that so we don't have a big hope from them to do what they promise to us.

Politics can makes someone change so it is not surprising if someone changes after they are elected. Although there is some people who can works as they promises but the number of those who change themselves is too big. That may affect to the government program and maybe they will not works for the citizens and their country.
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November 11, 2024, 02:09:54 AM
#62
We have seen Trump and Biden administration. I don't think politicians work for 100% of the people but there is definitely a divide between them. The way the Biden administration has created a global war situation over the past few years cannot be expected from Trump. He believes in peace and not war. Trump is more business minded and as a politician I think that is the most appropriate thing to do.

Not only the Americans but the world now hates the Biden administration and its actions have destabilized the whole world due to which Trump has been able to make a big difference in the election. I cannot predict how much Trump will be able to change the situation of the war from his position but it is assumed that he will play a role in stopping the war.

Since Trump came to power, there have been drastic changes in several areas. In particular, the cryptocurrency market has seen an unprecedented change. The amount of investment in the crypto market has increased significantly in the last few days. According to CoinMarketCap data in last 24 hours the market cap was $2.69T which is expected to increase to 3 Trillion soon.
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November 11, 2024, 01:50:48 AM
#61
Yes yes yes we all know how everyone is elated about trump's victory.
But personally I think we shouldn't get excited yet, there has been so many promises made but we all know politics and how politicians can still change overnight.

I'm so much in agreement with this point of view you have got, I have never been of the absolute opinion that trumps victory is really a win win for the crypto industry, he's gat the power to still refuse implementation of the promises or slow it down and will only be criticized and he will only give reason for that happing such that you are nor going to be able to really do anything about so we are only going to just hope and using intuition to keeping hopes alive about all of this.

Yes, Trump may break his promises after becoming president but at least with his victory, the market is doing quite well and we should be grateful for his victory which contributed to this price increase.

And if we doubt and distrust Trump, why don't we wonder what would have happened if Harris had been the winner? I bet the market won't be that positive and a dump is inevitable instead of a rally like it is now. So stop doubting Trump because at least his victory is much better than Harris' regardless of whether he keeps his promises to us or not.

You guys like to theorize and doubt everything but you should also remember that we don't have many choices, we can only choose 1 of 2 between Trump and Harris. If Trump is not seen as a good choice for the markets, then don't expect anything better for us if Harris wins.

The thing is.. Many speculate that if Harris would be put in the place of Trump, the market would plummet a bit, but as we know - after a storm, comes a calm period  Grin So it would be a dump with the better positions for big hands to wait for the news to start the rally, albeit a bit later that we experience now.
However - we may experience corrections along the way we walk along the aftermath of the elections, so, it wouldn't really matter to me who won - the rally for BTC would start anyway.
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